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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2012, 01:43:22 AM »
I would like to retain mags. But think about this angle.

Seriously how many firefights with bands of thugs and rapist to you think there will be? And when your done with said firefight are you not going to police up their shit & your shit?  I am.

One or two team members pulls security while the other picks up gear, food, water, ammo.
That's not looting that scavenging and surviving.

 I am NOT saying DON'T try to retain your shit. I am just saying. When the situation is dealt with I think there will be time to pick that shit up. And if you lose. Well shit who cares where your mags are?

The problem with that idea is that you're assuming that you were on the offense, you put yourself in this situation, all your intelligence was correct, and you whooped their ass.

I'm not as highly trained or as good as you are, so yes, I could see myself walking myself and maybe a few others into a fucking ambush that is of such a magnitude that you're entire team gets wiped out trying to fight through it, and we are trying to get the fuck out of dodge while covering each other on the way out.  Or I could even see myself getting us into a situation where you think you're the big swinging dick, and then all the sudden you realize you made a huge tactical error, and you have to get the hell out of Dodge real quick.  Either way, I won't be coming back for my mags that I drop along the way. 

Mags will carry quite a good price and may be hard to come by, depending on the circumstances.

Also, what good is an AK 47 if you don't have a magazine for it?  You've got a single shot rifle.

My point is that there may be a time where you're running, instead of either fighting or dying.  I understand that many have no intention to ever run, but to take the hill or die trying and that's fine too.  In that case, you're right, don't worry about where your mags are lying.  You either won or you're dead.  Guess that might be the difference between you and I.  You're the badass, I'm not.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2012, 01:46:24 AM »
for the most part shit and split is my combat attitude
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #77 on: January 29, 2012, 01:55:23 AM »
I always thought the Guerrilla fighter was more of a hit and run, meaning, you hit, and you run.  You stay light, strike fast, and exfil just as fast as you got in.  You have no time to round up supplies and do tactical requisitioning, because the Calvary is on its way, as you just messed up a hell of a lot of their people.

Maybe I'm wrong...

There is a time and place for tactical requisitioning, but that time and place is not while you're hitting and running, Guerrilla style.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2012, 02:10:08 AM »
I always thought the Guerrilla fighter was more of a hit and run, meaning, you hit, and you run.  You stay light, strike fast, and exfil just as fast as you got in.  You have no time to round up supplies and do tactical requisitioning, because the Calvary is on its way, as you just messed up a hell of a lot of their people.

Maybe I'm wrong...

There is a time and place for tactical requisitioning, but that time and place is not while you're hitting and running, Guerrilla style.

depends on how large of a force your taking on
is quite possible to shoot a patrol to shit in seconds and have the time to take shit off them
ask the vietcong
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2012, 02:12:37 AM »
I was thinking more along the lines of FreeFor vs. OpFor.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2012, 02:18:54 AM »
Noone is claiming to be a bad ass.

Look If you get into a firefight that you cannot get your self out of. You win or you lose.  If you win you pick your shit back up if you lose it doesnt matter.

If you can get out. Like you said your not comeing back for your mags.

What's the issue here?
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #81 on: January 29, 2012, 02:20:55 AM »
Retain your mags, unless you are 100 percent sure you're going to be picking them up at the end of the fight.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2012, 02:21:19 AM »
Noone is claiming to be a bad ass.

Look If you get into a firefight that you cannot get your self out of. You win or you lose.  If you win you pick your shit back up if you lose it doesnt matter.

If you can get out. Like you said your not comeing back for your mags.

What's the issue here?

ok now that were all on the same page how about a group hug?
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2012, 02:26:59 AM »
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #84 on: January 29, 2012, 02:28:27 AM »
I've got the sauna warmed up if ya'll wanna hug it out...   ^-^

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #85 on: January 29, 2012, 02:46:09 AM »
I've got the sauna warmed up if ya'll wanna hug it out...   ^-^

Fuck yeah!

back on topic.

Logistics.

Now I have another lower/upper/BCG/bolt. Barrel
21 mags.
I think I made the right decision.  Though I am worried
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #86 on: January 29, 2012, 02:58:20 AM »
Reaver I would worry too, I mean after all you went from perfection to an ar lol. Im just kidding man nothing to worry about you had more than just the one ak you sold right?

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #87 on: January 29, 2012, 03:01:36 AM »
Reaver I would worry too, I mean after all you went from perfection to an ar lol. Im just kidding man nothing to worry about you had more than just the one ak you sold right?

yeah, so perfect you dont even aim......  ???
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #88 on: January 29, 2012, 03:02:51 AM »
Reaver I would worry too, I mean after all you went from perfection to an ar lol. Im just kidding man nothing to worry about you had more than just the one ak you sold right?

I haven't sold the maadi yet. And I still got the draco...and the 74
Buying a tin of 74 ammo and some mags next month. Just for stocking.

And earlier I pickup up the 47 and ran that mother fucker like I have been training to. And it feels so right...and my Car15 feels so wrong... Man.... I'm sad.  :(
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #89 on: January 29, 2012, 03:03:52 AM »
AKs are so awesome, you don't have to aim when you shoot them.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #90 on: January 29, 2012, 03:05:52 AM »
I point shoot with my ak pretty damn good, and I can move from target to target much faster that way. I mean hell as long as im center mass who cares, even if i wing them in most cases they would be out of the fight.

Reaver Keep the ak's then have them both you already have all your ak gear pretty set, just start stocking ar stuff.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #91 on: January 29, 2012, 03:08:14 AM »
I point shoot with my ak pretty damn good, and I can move from target to target much faster that way. I mean hell as long as I'm center mass who cares, even if i wing them in most cases they would be out of the fight.

Reaver Keep the ak's then have them both you already have all your ak gear pretty set, just start stocking AR stuff.


Is it sad that my AK gear works better with AR stuff  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

I did a load out test today & ( not saying that I am ) I can Effectively carry 21 Magazine's on my person.

Even I have to admit. That is IN THE FIGHT
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2012, 03:10:37 AM »
Damn man thats wild, im carrying 9 mags in my rig and 1 in the rifle. where the hell are you stuffing all those mags?

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2012, 03:14:15 AM »
How much does 21 mags weigh?!?!?

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2012, 03:14:27 AM »
Damn man thats wild, im carrying 9 mags in my rig and 1 in the rifle. where the hell are you stuffing all those mags?

Lol, the AK rig
US Palm Attack Rack V2 Gives me 4 slots time two.  Three slots internal ( map case area )
I have two coupler pouches one on the left one on the right thats 15 mags on my vest.
 I have a three mag pouch leg drop. that's 18
I have a third coupler in the weapon thats 20
And I have a Magazine pouch that fits on the stock of the weapon thats 21
so 631 rounds total with one in the chamber.
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2012, 03:15:55 AM »
Now that reminds me of the old FPS games where you had 800 rounds on your person.  Damn that is a lot of rounds.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2012, 03:19:05 AM »
LOL nice i didnt even think about throwing mags in the kangaroo pouch, right now all i have in it is a pin, some big ass zip ties some 550 cord and some 550 cord hand cuffs.

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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2012, 03:29:26 AM »
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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2012, 03:37:22 AM »
21 Mag Rig


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Re: Lets talk logistics
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2012, 03:38:27 AM »
Oh man I still got some pounds to lose.  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

I look like a heifer!
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