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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 06:57:18 PM »
Yeah I think I over stepped my bounds and got called.....this damn iPad has me feeling super.
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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2013, 07:11:26 PM »
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In a perfect world it would depend on purpose and caliber.

Thatguy has it right. It all depends on what caliber you are using. Different callibers behave differently at different velocitys. A hollow point .45 slug is designed to expand which is basically what a soft point rifle round is designed to do. However a hollow point 40 gr .223 bullet travelling at 3800 fps is designed to fragment into shards.

In my opinion the best .223 bullet to stock up on for the value is Hornady's 75 gr boat tail hollow point or Sierra 77 gr matchking backed by 24 grains of Varget. This is only for reloaders though. It isn't a true hollow point. It is technically an open tip match design. But the copper jacket is thin which will fragment at low velocitys and the bullet itself is big enough that some of it will stay intact and penetrate.

This is for SHTF and defending the homestead. If I was fighting a Fascist police state/United Nations/occupying military I would want the best match bolt action rifle money can buy with a big bullet. Or an M1 Garand and some .30-06 armour penetrating rounds.


you do realize cops only have level II level IIIA armor right?
A hot loaded 357mag can go through that
with the exception of swat that is, they do wear rifle plates

Yes, but I wasn't quite imagining fighting agianst the local police department. I'm thinking more along the lines of fully militarized UN troops or National Guard. Fighting a modern military in straight up fights with AR15s and AKs is pointless. Bolt actions and M1 Garands will win the day.

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 07:56:27 PM »
well grudgie you realize that all the shit troops wear today is rated to stop multiple hits from 30-06 ap ammo right?
the training i have received from former sf members is always shoot the hips out then go for the head

as far as my police vest thing goes, i mis read your comment you said police STATE, i didn't catch the state part
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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 07:57:19 PM »
reaver, there is no way to hot load a 40 to penetrate level IIIA

357mag is the only caliber that i have ever seen do it
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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2013, 08:30:50 PM »
reaver, there is no way to hot load a 40 to penetrate level IIIA

357mag is the only caliber that i have ever seen do it

7.62x25 will do it.
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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2013, 08:42:29 PM »
could be, but i have never tested it out myself
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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2013, 09:50:42 PM »
could be, but i have never tested it out myself

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2013, 11:13:25 PM »
why you getting defensive bro?

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2013, 11:17:31 PM »
Alright calm down girls geez your like my ex's. There are factors to take into consideration like bullet type, powder, caliber, range, the shooter etc.

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2013, 02:41:01 AM »
Absolutely Alex, without knowing exactly what you've got and how you intend to use it we can't say what's best for you. Now we can give you all the info you need to make that choice on your own and hopefully we've done that ;)

I wouldn't post a detailed list for OPSEC reasons but if you wanna drop me a PM I'd be glad to help.

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2013, 10:25:26 AM »
Nah I'm good thatguy posting this post was a very good idea and thanks  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

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Re: Stockpiling FMJ, HP, or SP bullets?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 05:40:29 PM »
Well thanks for your thoughts I appreciate it, soon I'm gonna do another post very similar on this subject whenever I'm in the mood to post  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co