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Ministry of Truth
« on: May 20, 2012, 11:14:29 PM »
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Congressmen Seek To Lift Propaganda Ban

Propaganda that was supposed to target foreigners could now be aimed at Americans, reversing a longstanding policy. ?Disconcerting and dangerous,? says Shank.

An amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on American audiences is being inserted into the latest defense authorization bill, BuzzFeed has learned.

The amendment would ?strike the current ban on domestic dissemination? of propaganda material produced by the State Department and the Pentagon, according to the summary of the law at the House Rules Committee's official website.

The tweak to the bill would essentially neutralize two previous acts?the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act in 1987?that had been passed to protect U.S. audiences from our own government?s misinformation campaigns.

The bi-partisan amendment is sponsored by Rep. Mac Thornberry from Texas and Rep. Adam Smith from Washington State.


Read much more here:  http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 08:51:58 AM »
They already got the news media doing it, why not make it official?

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 10:37:32 AM »
They are basically legalizing what they have been doing for years, while also ramping up efforts, I believe.

Expect to see even more propaganda, if that is even possible.  LOL

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 12:40:06 PM »
Don't give them the challenge! lol

BTW, here is a good article about the police state in Chicago for NATO... notice it isn't even a US writer...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/20/welcome-nato-chicago-police-state

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With Nato delegates arriving Saturday night, the City of Chicago has been turned into a police state. Courtesy of Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who several months ago began implementing new draconian anti-protest measures, Chicago has gone on security lockdown. Starting early Friday night, 18 May 2012, the Chicago Police Department began shutting down ? prohibiting cars, bikes, and pedestrians ? miles and miles of highways and roads in the heart of Chicago to create a security perimeter around downtown and McCormick Place (where the Nato summit is being held).

Eight-foot tall, anti-scale security fencing went up all over that perimeter and downtown, including Grant Park; and the Chicago police ? as well as myriad other federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI and the US secret service ? were out in force on riot-geared horses, bikes, and patrols ? batons at the ready. Philadelphia Police Department is sending over reinforcements to help out; Chicago has also asked for recruits from police departments in Milwaukee and Charlotte-Mecklenburg, NC. Meanwhile, F-16 warplanes "screamed through the skies as part of a pre-summit defense exercise" and helicopters hovered incessantly.

The Chicago Police Department has spent $1m in "riot-control equipment" in anticipation of the Nato summit. According to the Guardian, "The city of Chicago's procurement services website shows that in March [2012] $757,657 was spent on 8,513 'retro-fit kits' to be fitted to police helmets. In February [2012] 673 of the same kits, which include a face shield and ear and neck protectors, were purchased for $56,632." Plus, the Chicago Police Department will be deploying its two, new, expensive long-range acoustic device (LRAD) sound cannons ? which it bought at $20,000 a pop. These are the type of devices that were used by the Pittsburgh police to deliver high-pitched alarm tones during the G20 summit meeting there in 2009.

Then, there is the "secret suburban Chicago" police control center where "officials from more than 40 different agencies sit side by side with a giant central screen before them," as reported by the Chicago Sun Times. From the multi-agency command center, all different types of federal, state and local law enforcement can "view live video feeds from security cameras that are already up and running throughout the city".

As one commentators suggests, Chicagoans are experiencing the "New Military Urbanism in Nato-Occupied Chicago". The extensive nature of these security measures (as reported by the US secret service), road closures and pedestrian restrictions included dozens of road closures (at least 7.5 miles of closed roads, by my calculation), beginning Friday at midnight and going through evening rush hour on Monday, 21 May. There will also be airspace restrictions over Chicago (the flight advisory is here). In addition, there will be marina and waterway restrictions, with the creation of special "maritime security zones", and an increased presence of US Coast Guard during the summit.

So, welcome, Nato, to the Chicago police state 2012. It may be hard to see or experience the security measures from within the perimeter, but for Chicagoans, the new experience is chilling. As one Chicagoan reportedly told NBC Chicago, the mass of security equipment "made her feel like she was on 'lockdown'."

A few further points are worth mentioning. First, it is astounding ? but sadly, not surprising ? that the City of Chicago would deny protest permits or make protest so difficult in Chicago because of alleged inconveniences to traffic and ordinary business. Our new Chicago lockdown belies any suggestion that the city cares about such inconveniences. While Mayor Emanuel has bent backwards for Nato, first amendment free speech receives dramatically less accommodation.

Second, this police state serves, in reality, as our new welfare state. The security mania represents our truly unique way of stimulating the economy, of employing piece labor, of creating government jobs and subsidized contracts. Just think of the amount of overtime pay that we are disbursing with all this policing. Instead of investing in schools and education, in job training, or in re-entry programs, this is how we invest in our future. And we never think of it as government welfare because it falls in that sacred space of security ? because, essentially, of the American paradox of laissez-faire and mass punishment.

Third, and finally, all of this is, sadly, here to stay. Nato will come and go, but the new anti-protest laws, the new riot-gear, the two LRAD sound cannons, and all the normalization of this police state ? that will be with us for a long time.
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Re: Ministry of Truth
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2012, 03:33:45 PM »
it's really time to get out of the cities. spending the weekend out at the BOL really cemented that thought in my head. I have little faith that we can reverse this police state/propaganda state, so the only option we have left is to simply leave the cultural/social hubs behind and let the sheep deal with the urban police state. I've had enough of it. I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of reading articles about it.

this weekend I turned my phone off and didn't so much as glance at a TV or computer. it was quite possibly the nicest, most therapeutic thing I've done all year. so all I'm saying is that the cities are lost. they're entirely too far gone and can't be brought back. the only chance we have for a peaceful life is to simply get the fuck out while we still can.
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 03:40:49 PM »
it's really time to get out of the cities. spending the weekend out at the BOL really cemented that thought in my head. I have little faith that we can reverse this police state/propaganda state, so the only option we have left is to simply leave the cultural/social hubs behind and let the sheep deal with the urban police state. I've had enough of it. I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of reading articles about it.

this weekend I turned my phone off and didn't so much as glance at a TV or computer. it was quite possibly the nicest, most therapeutic thing I've done all year. so all I'm saying is that the cities are lost. they're entirely too far gone and can't be brought back. the only chance we have for a peaceful life is to simply get the fuck out while we still can.


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Not to mention is is really hard to get a decent early warning of intruders when you live in the city or the suburbs in a neighborhood.  Out in the country, it becomes more useful, as you can get a warning with more time, that allows you to escape or alert Shovel and Lime friends.
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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 05:41:22 PM »
it's really time to get out of the cities. spending the weekend out at the BOL really cemented that thought in my head. I have little faith that we can reverse this police state/propaganda state, so the only option we have left is to simply leave the cultural/social hubs behind and let the sheep deal with the urban police state. I've had enough of it. I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of reading articles about it.

this weekend I turned my phone off and didn't so much as glance at a TV or computer. it was quite possibly the nicest, most therapeutic thing I've done all year. so all I'm saying is that the cities are lost. they're entirely too far gone and can't be brought back. the only chance we have for a peaceful life is to simply get the fuck out while we still can.


You're arriving at the point I hit about a year and a half ago.  I woke up at o-dark thirty one morning after being home for a few days from an overseas job working for uncle sugar at a pretty nice pay grade and just having received a promotion to the sound of flashbangs and breaching rounds.  After the initial rush I figured out it wasn't my home but across the street the cops were raiding a house gangbangers and drugs.  This was in a more affluent neighborhood that was only a few years old.  After that I noticed every siren, every noise, every stressor the city has to offer.  I had just finished reading Atlas Shrugged right before I redeployed and I sat down looked at HH6 and said (I remember the words verbatim to this day) "Fuck this - we gotta get outta here".  Now HH6 was born and raised a city girl and had never lived anywhere that had a population of less than 250k.  But I pretty much  laid it out that I was going to find a way to move our asses to a less stressful and more secure life.  It took a few months of planning and liquidating assets but I managed to latch onto a ranch near where I grew up.  And although she was hesitant after being away from the insanity of the city HH6 is much happier. 

My wife has always been the frugal sort.  And being a military family with kids we didn't have an abundance of cash so whatever was left after spending on necessities always went into savings.  Reup bonuses, tax returns, combat pay, you name it.  Even after I retired and was working those high paying contracting jobs she still managed the hell out of our money.  During all of those years we never had cell phones, more than basic cable, or a lot of toys.  And after I retired all of a sudden we bought into all of those gimmicks.  Every job I worked handed me a crackberry with a 24/7 email requirement.  Cell phones rang at even weirder hours than when I was a troop.  Suddenly there was 500 channels of not a damn thing on TV worth watching.  And all of that insanity did nothing to improve the quality of our lives.  So we chucked it.  We still have basic satellite TV (she loves her telenovellas), she's got an elcheapo prepaid phone for emergencies, and we live with almost no stress. 

What I'm trying to get at is with a some creative thought and good basic planning you can get the hell away from the cities.  I cashed my 401k out and bought a larger chunk of the family business after I paid the ranch off.  In 18 months I've made about 75% of my money back between the two.  My friends that still slave away at the organization I left have steadily lost on theirs.  If things hold true to form I'll be in the black again within three to four months. 

I saw this a couple of weeks ago at PJ media: http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/comment/183369/

"The winning stock market strategy right now? Think it is gold? Silver? Derivatives? Foreign markets?

Here it is: 5 to 10 acres in a defensible place with an off the grid water source. Greenhouse. Fractional precious metals in .223, .40, .45, .22LR, etc. Some stock like chickens, a pig or two, beef on the hoof. Hunting skills. Stashed starches in enough quantity to live for at least two years. Heirloom seeds. Get back to basics kids. The days of needing lots of business majors and marketeers is gone."

When the Depression hit those that were predominantly self sufficient out in the country may have hurt for work but they didn't starve.  And amigo it's all about survival of your family. Build Tribe and ensure it's security.  During the depression rampant crime and starvation was common in the cities and people were MUCH more humane during that time period in our civilization.  Not so much out in the sticks.     

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Re: Ministry of Truth
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 06:27:54 PM »
this weekend I turned my phone off and didn't so much as glance at a TV or computer. it was quite possibly the nicest, most therapeutic thing I've done all year. so all I'm saying is that the cities are lost. they're entirely too far gone and can't be brought back. the only chance we have for a peaceful life is to simply get the fuck out while we still can.
Small town 'Merica, fuck yeah. My condolences on those left in the cattle car known as the city.