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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2013, 01:46:43 AM »
Thanks for sharing Deathstyle [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

I truely am dissapointed in Yeagers opinion on this one. The best ending to that fued would be a one on one talk between those two guys. For whatever reason i find myself relating to Adam in every word that comes out of his mouth. I see him as a well spoken version of myself. Fuck worrying about all the what if's... either join in or get out of the damn way. I really wish i had the vacation time and money to go march with him.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2013, 01:12:40 PM »

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While there have been a lot of good points made here, and I'm not going to get into arguments, or pissing contests, I just figured I'd put in my .02. I have no problem with this march. I mean, we are always talking about our 2nd Amendment right, and how our founding fathers had it. I couldn't see any of them having a problem carrying a loaded firearm in D.C., or anywhere, for that matter. If we have a Second Amendment right, we have a Second Amendment right. We shouldn't be claiming we have a right to keep and bear arms, if we have to qualify it by saying, "well, as long as we're not in city limits, and my magazine only has 7 rounds, and I have a state issued permit, and my coat is covering, or not covering it. If we have to do all that, then we don't have a right to keep and bear arms, it's already been infringed upon enough. I suggested a march just like this to my friends, long before this guy came up with it. Like I said, I can see points made by both sides, so I'm not going to argue about it. Just thought I'd give my reasons for not having a problem with it. Have a good one! 



Thanks for sharing Deathstyle

I truely am dissapointed in Yeagers opinion on this one. The best ending to that fued would be a one on one talk between those two guys. For whatever reason i find myself relating to Adam in every word that comes out of his mouth. I see him as a well spoken version of myself. Fuck worrying about all the what if's... either join in or get out of the damn way. I really wish i had the vacation time and money to go march with him.



Fuck, Yeager that hypocrite goes from " I'm ganna start killing people " to " ugh, your ganna become a felon "

These two members of our wonderful community are spot on.  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or the right to bear fucking arms does not mean only in where my government says I can. Fuck them. Have at it guys. Now lets see who'll back down. The people or the goooberment.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2013, 07:07:26 PM »
This just in:  Adam Kokesh arrested in Philadelphia for speaking at "Smoke down Prohibition V," a pro pot rally.  He was not smoking at the time of arrest. 

Adam Kokesh getting arrested at Smoke down Prohibition V
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2013, 07:41:35 PM »
They targeted Adam... I wonder if they will hold him until July 5th..... Scum bags...
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2013, 09:57:15 PM »
 [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2013, 10:08:06 PM »
[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.


I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2013, 11:30:35 PM »
[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.


I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.


Wasn't thinking it was, but if they jump on his ass this fast when he's not armed.......You get the idea.

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2013, 12:32:52 AM »
[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.


I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.


Wasn't thinking it was, but if they jump on his ass this fast when he's not armed.......You get the idea.


Id wager it will go much better. Thats why we have the second amendment. A man without a gun gets little respect. Ive never seen a clip of a cop pepper spraying, clubbing, tazing or slamming to the ground a protester with a firearm. Im not saying it hasnt happened but guns demand respect is my point. Until the gun is seperated from the protester they will have the respect if not for the man then for the potential threat. With that potential threat to the police they suddenly prefer to talk things out rather then assault the protester into submission.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2013, 12:06:11 PM »
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Just to comment on some of the disinformation out there Adam has not been release nor has he been given a method to contact anyone. Last night Darrell (Adam's Production Manager) and I went to the philly jail and spoke with them and I was told that Feds came and picked him up... after going through the 2 low level cops that work the desk and speaking to the LT that was in charge (on video of course) we found out adam was being held at the federal jail rather than the local jail that we were at for "resisting arrest" and knowing Adam he most likely refused to process which is another charge... we rode over to the federal jail and spoke to a few people who confirmed Adam was being held in there... I was also told that he under no circumstances would be released without going in front of the judge on monday... anyone claiming that he has already been released is silly... I know being arrested for resisting arrest as the only charge seems crazy as Adam says "If it made sense it wouldn't be government"... when I hear any news I'll be sure to update this page and keep everyone informed. - Lucas
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2013, 12:06:50 PM »
That was off Adams twitter.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2013, 02:30:39 PM »
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2013, 02:52:18 PM »
Remember gents. Not everything is a conspiracy. not saying this isn't just saying not everything is.

Dude could have just been picked up and trying to find a spot to ditch the joint prior to being searched.

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2013, 10:25:36 PM »
I don't care what peoples views on pot are. But I do think that mixing fighting for gun rights and fighting for pot rights, isn't a good idea. People aren't going pay much attention to you, if they think you're just some stoner. You're going to lose a lot of credibility. Just sayin'!

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2013, 12:54:22 AM »
I don't care what peoples views on pot are. But I do think that mixing fighting for gun rights and fighting for pot rights, isn't a good idea. People aren't going pay much attention to you, if they think you're just some stoner. You're going to lose a lot of credibility. Just sayin'!

Too true.  I've got some folks like that in my family. As much as I love them I acknowledge their life choices have set them down the path of self destruction. Much thanks to pot as a gateway. The idea of them with guns is honestly frightening. Which is in part why they are not allowed on certain family property.

When you start a movement like what Kokesh was trying it's best to keep it simple, pure, and based on facts. Otherwise your opposition can detract from your case by pointing out uncommon associations. Which ultimately will subvert the movement. Kind of like promoting NASCAR and alcohol consumption at the same time. The presupposition would suggest drinking and driving or as in this case, smoking weed and shooting recklessly. Essentially that he's irresponsible. A wiser man would've stayed away.

Ultimately we've got little time before the 4th arrives. I sincerely pray it comes and goes without incident, but I'll be wrapping up last minute prepping before then. Which I recommend everyone does. I believe we're later in this game than we realize. 

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2013, 08:32:55 AM »
You know I am hearing nothing about this march except here on SP. Nothing in the main stream media or cable. Nothing in the papers (Yes I still read a paper) ;-) I wonder how the word will get out. I guess one person at a time, one blog at a time, one forum at a time. Throw in some tweating and FB.

One thing to do is follow how the communication develops as the date approaches. It might be a clue to "something."

Stay tuned...
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2013, 08:38:26 AM »

I'll be wrapping up last minute prepping before then. Which I recommend everyone does. I believe we're later in this game than we realize.

I was telling LD last night that I believe things will go down hill this year or in 2014 due to a number of factors.  But you are right.  It could happen anytime, including today or next week.



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Re: July 4th 2013
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2013, 08:55:59 AM »
Well WW and Sledge, add to the "perfect storm" swirling around us the latest Barry scandals. I think Sledge you posted somewhere on SP that another shoe was going to be dropped.

Same direction different gear:

Like him/hate him, Glenn Beck is predicting that Barry will be coming out of the closet this year - The Socialist closet that is.

What that means is he is going verbally say, out loud, something like, "we have tried Capitalism for the past 275 years and it hasn't worked. We have had the Bill of Rights for 250 years and due to all of the conservative groups we need to suspend / rewrite parts to better to protect you and your family. Blah, blah, blah.

I think that he will try to socialize the energy field. If the government had control of:
> Coal,
> Gas,
> Oil,
> Electric,
> Etc,

The government could pay off or considerably reduce the deficit in 10 years.

When Barry comes out and says what he feels openly, the mask will be off and for all of us to watch out. That will be the key to know when to head for your BOL as the gauntlet will have been thrown down.

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2013, 09:05:53 AM »
Adams not marching for gun rights.

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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2013, 09:15:33 AM »
JM, I'm  not sure that he will come out and say he's a socialist.  He might.  But I have no doubts that he will try and nationalize energy along with many other industries.  He has the self given power (EO's) to take over practically every industry in addition to state and local governments.  And to use the military on US soil to do it in order to "prepare" in advance for an undescribed "national emergency".

He has a limited amount of time to accomplish this if he intends to have his reign (presidential term) extended into perpetuity.  Several of his police state actions are coming out now.  What is worrisome is wondering what he has been doing behind closed doors that hasn't been brought into the light of day yet.     



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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2013, 02:38:06 AM »
Open Carry March on D.C. July 4th - Part 2
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2013, 03:21:08 AM »
I don't know who the guy in the video is, but I agree with him 100%.  I have no intention of being a useful idiot helping Obama reach his endgame.  Especially with the UN Small Arms Treaty going on Obama's desk on June 3 and then on the the Senate for a vote.  How anyone could think by being arrested or shot in an armed march on DC will help that vote is beyond me.  Does anyone really think that being shot or arrested is going to make Senators say "Oh No, we had better not mess with them by voting for gun control"? 

I swear, the more I think about this the more I'm convinced that this is a psyop put in place by Obama's people at a critical time before the UN treaty vote.  Talk about guys on the right letting their testosterone get the better of their judgement.  Obama must think we are all neanderthals who just react without thinking things through.  And he seems to be right about some.

Don't get me wrong.  The guys who fall for this trap will be showing a lot of balls to walk into DC armed.  But as is true with most situations.  As difficult as it sometimes is, we guys are better served by thinking with our brains instead of our groins.       



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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2013, 04:41:48 AM »
The guy in the video is James Yeager.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #73 on: May 21, 2013, 06:28:13 AM »
I agree in your comments Sledge!

In there is always a reaction to an action. Look at Newton's Third law...

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... in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the force on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs.

Think about this: How is the media going to handle the showing up in DC armed with 10 people? 100 people? 1,000 People, 10,000 people. I contend that they will re-jump back onto the 'gun control band wagon' if there are 10 people or more.
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Re: July 4th 2013
« Reply #74 on: May 21, 2013, 09:07:48 AM »
To anyone saying that a peaceful march into DC is going to hurt "X" what is "X"? What movement will this march hurt? Whats your plan A if this march isnt good. All im hearing is how this march will help Obama push his agenda. Well what is your offense? At this point are our best Americans truely just trying to throw sticks in the spokes of tranny to hopefully slow it down so they can maybe die with a few rights left? Are we seriously down to merely a sorry ass defense and no offense? I seriously hope your not putting all your hopes into their elected officials. Stop playing by their rules. This nonsense about the mainstream media twisting things needs to stop. The MSM fucks you over every day. Why would you suddenly care? I have more to say but im late for work.
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