Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: WhiteWolfReloaded on May 05, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
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http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/radio-host-lead-armed-march-dc-july-4th-put-govt-notice-we-wont-be (http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/radio-host-lead-armed-march-dc-july-4th-put-govt-notice-we-wont-be)
Now, call me crazy, but some how I don't think this is going to go well. A bunch of finger on the trigger nationalist stomping down Pennsylvania Ave. with loaded guns will undoubtedly lead to some sort of clamp down. Not to mention it's probably playing right in to Obama's agenda. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Rather than 1,000 they need about 1,000,000 to show for any positive affect.
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No joke. This is probably the worst idea I've heard in a long time. There's a lot of controversy around the guy who's leading the march, which I won't elaborate on here. It hardly fits the definition of civil disobedience. Why not offer something more productive, like offer free training classes?
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Where's the face palm meme? This event needs one stat! [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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All it takes is 1 shot... and it doesn't even have to come from either sides participants...
Of course that is if there isn't another "event" set right at home in a Hollywood movie that gives the gov the excuse they need to tighten the noose just a bit more.
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My thing is Kokesh is an opportunist who'll do some asinine shit to attract attention. Loaded firearms with Kokesh as a primer is a highly dangerous situation. I can already see the tear gas canisters rolling down the road, MRAPS, and snipers on every roof. This is like my greatest fear coming to fruition. If you don't know what I'm talking about take a good hard look at what political lines have been drawn over in the EU. This is the problem with liberalism, socialism, and communism. They will always breed nationalist. The trick is, and I'll shamefully admit, I have no idea how we exit that cycle to return to an honest republic with limited government and empowered citizens. :-[
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The trick is, and I'll shamefully admit, I have no idea how we exit that cycle to return to an honest republic with limited government and empowered citizens. :-[
Return from something that has never happened? From my view of history, we've never had this in this nation. It's an utopian paradise, much like anything other political sides has dreamed about since the dawn of mankind.
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I don't see this as working out well. 1) Obama will use it to create a crises. 2) Politicians who voted down gun control will have second thoughts. 3) After WWI, Mcarthur and Patton were among those in charge of using the military in an operation to clear veterans out of Washington when they marched to complain about a lack of benefits. It was a blood bath. With this advance notice you know that the military will be on standby if not in the streets.
This is a really stupid idea.
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Open Carry March on Washington Independence Day 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7QptL_DtWs#ws)
AVTM on Alex Jones: Armed March on DC July 4th #OpenCarry130704 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsy__lxdkqM#ws)
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Let um go. Wars gotta start somewhere
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Do You Hear The People Sing? 2012 (Full Version) - Lyrics (Please share!!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLwzuQuRsw#ws)
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Let um go. Wars gotta start somewhere
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Problem is, like I said before. Who is it that they will at least claim that fired the first shot? Or will there be enough open eyes watching that they cannot pass such deceit to but those good little Marxists?
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Who cares who fires the first shot. Do we really know who fired it at concord?
I think it'll square itself away. I know I'm not ready yet, I'm still perfecting my new skill :D
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Who cares who fires the first shot. Do we really know who fired it at concord?
I think it'll square itself away. I know I'm not ready yet, I'm still perfecting my new skill :D
??? God, Reaver, you worry me some days. :))
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I say good for them. Its about damn time someone uses the 2nd to make their 1st heard. Im sick of all this pussy unarmed mace you in the face and laugh at you protests. I see no way this can be a negative event for Americans. If they march uncontested then others will see hope. If they all go down in a hail of gunfire then we know whats next.
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Do you know how I can tell this is a shit idea? Because it is so obviously a shit idea.
Does this Kokesh dude have a plan to get these boys asses back out of the sling he is going to put them in? No?
So he is going to put his supporters in a bad way with no means of defending themselves other than to build and fill their own coffins?
Poor leadership in spades my friends. Now if he had a QRF standing by, a good comm network with physical backups like messangers and a FUCKING PLAN it might be a different story but as it stands these boys are being led into a turkey shoot.
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Well TG he has made it clear that if he is physically obstructed he will turn around. But we dont know what he has setup. It wouldnt be smart tactics to list your entire capabilities for everyone to see. A protest with loaded guns is better then anything ive seen the entire time ive been awake. It feels American for once. You know with his background hell have at the least a full squad of capable trained men.
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As mentioned earlier, this is a bad idea. I mentioned what happened to the WWI veterans who marched on Washington. This will be a repeat of what happened then. Only the WWI veterans weren't armed. How do you think this March will turn out?
Here's a propaganda video: WORLD WAR I VETERANS MARCH ON WASHINGTON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOgEewg3JA#)
http://www.dailypaul.com/97314/federal-troops-attack-veterans-marching-in-dc (http://www.dailypaul.com/97314/federal-troops-attack-veterans-marching-in-dc)
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snprelief4.htm (http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snprelief4.htm)
http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm (http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm)
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It's not like he's assaulting either. He's just strolling through to make a point. Having QRF is a bad idea cause it will illustrate hostile intentions and lead to a fight. We still don't want that.
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What bothers me about this whole thing is the smell of a psyop. I say that because this is precisely the type of thing that Obama's administration people have wet dreams over.
I could expand on this with more detail, but here's the short version.
Armed citizens "invade" Washington.
Media blasts out over and over again that they are conservative zealots.
Military is called in to restore order.
A shot is fired that is heard around the world and a blood bath begins.
Gun control and confiscation is put in place to prevent this from happening again.
Across the nation anyone saying anything against Government actions of any kind is accused of sedition and taken into custody.
Obama is reelected into perpetuity.
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I sincerely hope you guys just dont like Adam Kokesh personally so your shitting on his event. Because if your truely reluctant to walk down a street in America holding metal objects then were so fucked. Do you believe guns kill on their own or that our government is now a force we would be fools to dare mess with by exercising our constitutional rights in their presents? WTF is going on guys...
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@Sledge thats the plan eventually anyways right? Should we just never resist tyranny again? If arming up and protesting is out then its either start shooting or handem over. Id like to think we can still protest somewhere in America with a gun slung proudly.
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@Sledge thats the plan eventually anyways right? Should we just never resist tyranny again? If arming up and protesting is out then its either start shooting or handem over. Id like to think we can still protest somewhere in America with a gun slung proudly.
I am saying there are better ways to reach the same end and some of them are already being put in place. Right now there are forces at work within the states to put an overreaching Federal Government into it's proper place. There are growing movements within many state legislatures. They are enacting laws and taking stances, pushing back against Federal overreach.
That is exactly why Obama would love to see this march take place at this point. It may come to violent conflict down the road in the not too distant future. But that would be decision made by the states. These marchers will cut the legs out from under a growing movement that is taking shape.
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@Sledge-If exercising Constitutional rights cuts the legs out from under a movement then either i wanted it to fail or it was such a weak attempt it had no chance in the first place. Why are we so hell bent on playing the PC game with tyrrants? Do you think that if we keep our 2nd ammendment exercise to a minimum now well some how get to a point and say "haha fooled ya we love guns" ? Playing PC games is why were so fucked now.
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@Sledge-If exercising Constitutional rights cuts the legs out from under a movement then either i wanted it to fail or it was such a weak attempt it had no chance in the first place. Why are we so hell bent on playing the PC game with tyrrants? Do you think that if we keep our 2nd ammendment exercise to a minimum now well some how get to a point and say "haha fooled ya we love guns" ? Playing PC games is why were so fucked now.
Ken, the difference between PC games and strategy is that one works. Obama's people know strategy, they have proved that. It would be a good idea if we did the same. It has a lot more chance of success than marching around with a gun slung over your shoulder. At this point in time all that will do is to help your opponent out.
And if one of those people who are exercising their 2A rights in this march pulls a trigger you can kiss your 2A rights goodbye anyway. There would be skirmishes across the land as guns were being confiscated, but no mass engagements that would have the effect that you are looking for. They would be reported as "more conservative zealots" being taken into custody to protect the continuity of existing Government and protecting law abiding citizens. All crap wrapped up in pretty paper for public consumption.
Resistance by the states is the only way to protect and preserve the Constitution that the states created. Any other means is doomed to failure by lack of organization.
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Sledge- You're psyops scenario is spot on. I can already see the headlines comparing the Second Amendment rights marchers to the KKK marches of their day. Whatever lines the MSM media draws in the weeks and days will help dictate the American public's bias. Additionally one must consider a single American has being shot won't be enough to spark anything nowadays. 10? 50? 100?
Maybe :-\ But 1,000 from either side? Now that would play right in to the hands of good ole Barry.
The argument against the Constitutional right would be argued that if citizens didn't have firearms to confront government they wouldn't be shot dead by them.
As far as tactics? I have the ONLY tactic that would work and I'll share it with you now. All guns, and I mean ALL, must be unloaded. :o If they develop tactics openly it would make them appear hostile. If they develop them in secret a mole would release info undoubtedly for their own self righteous ends. However, if they walk on to the streets of Washington with unloaded firearms and even a single man is shot that news will send a vibration to the core of every American. Now Imagine 10, 50, or 100 dead by those means. Where would Barry or the MSM have grounds to stand on? Is it crazy? Slightly, but that's the difference between a martyr and just another dead man.
Last thing I want to point out is there is a way to beat this, but I don't think we have enough men with the resolve nor the time left. We simply make them stop. While Hitler as a man I believe was about as evil as they come I've come to understand he was still pretty freaking smart. We burn their books, media, movies, news, and we stop every argument of theirs dead in it's tracks with facts. So many facts their eyes and ears start to bleed from hearing it. If they don't like it they can turn right back around and return to their mommies basement. Our biggest problem in this nation is this poisonous idea of "tolerance." It's time to say we've had enough. Destroying their ideas internally and externally are the best way to do so. Like I said though, I doubt we have the time. It'd take at least two, possibly four, decades to undo their indoctrination nationally.
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WW, I wish that we had been smart enough to see what the Communists were doing starting from back in the 60's. Some would say from back in the 30's. You are right, it would take several decades to undo what they have been quietly putting into place in our society. Just as it would take several decades to remove what they have put into place.
You're idea of letting it publically be known that the marcher's guns were all unloaded would be a benefit if anything went hot. How to do that would be the question? And even then, in a psyop, someone would still be carrying loaded in order to complete their mission. Maybe someone from a rooftop.
We don't have any control over what will take place on July 4th. We can only get ready as best we can for whatever may happen.
Edit: I should qualify my communist statement. Not all people who are communists realize that they are, or belong to the communist party. They simply see themselves as supporting a more centralized government.
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Ken, I don't even know the guy.
I am just suggesting that it should be done the way I suggested.
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Im not the biggest history buff so dont bite my head off if i make errors. But would America exist today if the colonists hadnt made a physical stance with loaded guns in hand?
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Im not the biggest history buff so dont bite my head off if i make errors. But would America exist today if the colonists hadnt made a physical stance with loaded guns in hand?
Ken, you are correct. There was tension between the colonists and England that was increasing. When the British tried to unarm the Colonists in Concorde. It was someone there, either British or colonist, that fired the round that sent the conflict hot.
If that hadn't occurred the United States probably wouldn't have ever been formed. But it was only a great deal of luck, arrogance on the part of the British, the French, and some including myself would say, an act of God in order for the state of Israel to be reformed, that the United States ever grew out of that first fired shot in Concorde.
Washington was getting his ass kicked time and again until he caught the Hessians sleeping. That one victory enabled the army to continue.
This situation today has some similarities. But it also has a lot of differences. Our greatest weapon is our minds. As you mentioned earlier. Guns are only steel objects. I could be wrong, I'm not perfect, and certainly nowhere near the man that Washington was. But I think we should use our greatest weapon before we put steel objects to use.
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Good idea bad idea doesn't matter it's ganna happen even with most likely less than 1k people.
Question is, what are you going to do about it?
What are you going to do if nothing is made of it?
What are you going to do if it comes to the worst?
Like I said I'm not ready yet. But bring it on regardless, I can figure things out on the low.
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Good idea bad idea doesn't matter it's ganna happen even with most likely less than 1k people.
Question is, what are you going to do about it?
What are you going to do if nothing is made of it?
What are you going to do if it comes to the worst?
Like I said I'm not ready yet. But bring it on regardless, I can figure things out on the low.
I really can't or won't say. But I'd wager that at the top of my list would be calling my local Sheriff's office to file a report that all of my guns and ammo had just been stolen by a no doubt right wing extremist while I was out of town.
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At 1k marchers, that is no where near enough. Such a march would literally have to turn out a million, at least, for any real desired effect. If there one thing the left is good at is getting people to turn out to protests on a national level. There are lessons to be learned from that, and new tactics devised.
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The left brings out lots of people for protests because they never carry guns. Theres little to no risk involved in screaming and chanting. With little risk comes little reward. All the protesting theyve done has gotten them nowhere. Plus dont forget the left is in control of most universities. I wouldnt be suprised if they got extra credit for going to protests. The left is also a younger group generally. Younger people feel froggier.
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Ken, no offense, but those are just excuses to not do anything. What are the collective 'we' doing to do turn-out people to support the cause? There are valuable lesson from the anti-war protests and Occupy to what 'we' should be doing to further the cause of freedom. My longtime view that those from the right are more content to sit back, play armchair warrior, pull whatever lever the GOP says to; rather than get out of the easy chair and hit the streets, seems to be truer each day. We are way to reliant on a top-down power structures, expecting to get our marching orders from those at the top, usually to the detriment to us and to the benefit of those giving the orders. The world is too complicated and interconnected to base views on the old and limited left vs. right paradigm.
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Ken, no offense, but those are just excuses to not do anything. What are the collective 'we' doing to do turn-out people to support the cause? There are valuable lesson from the anti-war protests and Occupy to what 'we' should be doing to further the cause of freedom. My longtime view that those from the right are more content to sit back, play armchair warrior, pull whatever lever the GOP says to; rather than get out of the easy chair and hit the streets, seems to be truer each day. We are way to reliant on a top-down power structures, expecting to get our marching orders from those at the top, usually to the detriment to us and to the benefit of those giving the orders. The world is too complicated and interconnected to base views on the old and limited left vs. right paradigm.
I think you missunderstood me Crudos. I agree with everything you said here. Im in full support of Adams event. I have more faith that i can run on water if i could just hit 25mph then i have in the voting procedure getting anything done. You better believe id be marching with adam if it was 2,000 miles closer.
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Ken, I think I slipped into *rant* mode there a bit. Wasn't poking at you.
[url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Ken, I think I slipped into *rant* mode there a bit. Wasn't poking at you.
Roger that buddy... [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Id go as far as to say 1000 armed men sends a more powerful message then 10,000 helpless sheep screaming for more grass.
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Id go as far as to say 1000 armed men sends a more powerful message then 10,000 helpless sheep screaming for more grass.
[URL=http://www.smileyvault.co Definitely true. Only problem is I still see is someone being planted in the peaceful crowd to start chaos. They do believe in "order out of chaos" after all. ::) Best advice I can give on the march is that for every gun owner marching there should be two individuals with cameras trained on them, every roof top, and every LEO or military officers. I also believe every gun owner should have an unloaded firearm, but I don't think it should be advertised. That's key.
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Look up the "Bonus Army."
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Look up the "Bonus Army."
I just love how wikipedia has under "See also" the Occupy Movement along with Tiananmen Square. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at I didn't realize smoking pot, shitting on cop cars, and having public sex were of the same caliber.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/washington-gun-march-protest/2142469/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/washington-gun-march-protest/2142469/)
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[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/washington-gun-march-protest/2142469/[/url] ([url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/washington-gun-march-protest/2142469/[/url])
Of course they brought Ron Paul in to it. So screwed. So screwed.
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3,000 already signed up. This might not be a flop after all. Is the government going to be out gunned or will they be waiting at the bridge in the thousands?
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One of those that signed up is pretty active with LA Liberty HQ but I kinda doubt he'll show up. I think alot of people saying they are going are just trying to show support but arent gonna make the effort. Just my .02.
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Oath Keepers sez Adam Kokesh is a anarchist ... plot thickens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ft-iTgoi_U#)
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Oath keepers... Ha!....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uGuH1SYp54&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uGuH1SYp54&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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While there have been a lot of good points made here, and I'm not going to get into arguments, or pissing contests, I just figured I'd put in my .02. I have no problem with this march. I mean, we are always talking about our 2nd Amendment right, and how our founding fathers had it. I couldn't see any of them having a problem carrying a loaded firearm in D.C., or anywhere, for that matter. If we have a Second Amendment right, we have a Second Amendment right. We shouldn't be claiming we have a right to keep and bear arms, if we have to qualify it by saying, "well, as long as we're not in city limits, and my magazine only has 7 rounds, and I have a state issued permit, and my coat is covering, or not covering it. If we have to do all that, then we don't have a right to keep and bear arms, it's already been infringed upon enough. I suggested a march just like this to my friends, long before this guy came up with it. Like I said, I can see points made by both sides, so I'm not going to argue about it. Just thought I'd give my reasons for not having a problem with it. Have a good one!
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Open Carry March on DC July 4th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X78ovXozGbU#ws)
James Yeager - Summer Soldier? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emp3XvJ0sIA#ws)
"And Here We Go" - Joker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk#ws)
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Thanks for sharing Deathstyle [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
I truely am dissapointed in Yeagers opinion on this one. The best ending to that fued would be a one on one talk between those two guys. For whatever reason i find myself relating to Adam in every word that comes out of his mouth. I see him as a well spoken version of myself. Fuck worrying about all the what if's... either join in or get out of the damn way. I really wish i had the vacation time and money to go march with him.
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While there have been a lot of good points made here, and I'm not going to get into arguments, or pissing contests, I just figured I'd put in my .02. I have no problem with this march. I mean, we are always talking about our 2nd Amendment right, and how our founding fathers had it. I couldn't see any of them having a problem carrying a loaded firearm in D.C., or anywhere, for that matter. If we have a Second Amendment right, we have a Second Amendment right. We shouldn't be claiming we have a right to keep and bear arms, if we have to qualify it by saying, "well, as long as we're not in city limits, and my magazine only has 7 rounds, and I have a state issued permit, and my coat is covering, or not covering it. If we have to do all that, then we don't have a right to keep and bear arms, it's already been infringed upon enough. I suggested a march just like this to my friends, long before this guy came up with it. Like I said, I can see points made by both sides, so I'm not going to argue about it. Just thought I'd give my reasons for not having a problem with it. Have a good one!
Thanks for sharing Deathstyle
I truely am dissapointed in Yeagers opinion on this one. The best ending to that fued would be a one on one talk between those two guys. For whatever reason i find myself relating to Adam in every word that comes out of his mouth. I see him as a well spoken version of myself. Fuck worrying about all the what if's... either join in or get out of the damn way. I really wish i had the vacation time and money to go march with him.
Fuck, Yeager that hypocrite goes from " I'm ganna start killing people " to " ugh, your ganna become a felon "
These two members of our wonderful community are spot on. [url=http://www.freesmileys.or the right to bear fucking arms does not mean only in where my government says I can. Fuck them. Have at it guys. Now lets see who'll back down. The people or the goooberment.
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This just in: Adam Kokesh arrested in Philadelphia for speaking at "Smoke down Prohibition V," a pro pot rally. He was not smoking at the time of arrest.
Adam Kokesh getting arrested at Smoke down Prohibition V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHBC6JOc4M#)
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They targeted Adam... I wonder if they will hold him until July 5th..... Scum bags...
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.
I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.
I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.
Wasn't thinking it was, but if they jump on his ass this fast when he's not armed.......You get the idea.
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[img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at If this is how a pot protest goes I don't want to see what will happen on July 4th.
I doubt it was written into his speach to be cut off mid sentance by gang members.
Wasn't thinking it was, but if they jump on his ass this fast when he's not armed.......You get the idea.
Id wager it will go much better. Thats why we have the second amendment. A man without a gun gets little respect. Ive never seen a clip of a cop pepper spraying, clubbing, tazing or slamming to the ground a protester with a firearm. Im not saying it hasnt happened but guns demand respect is my point. Until the gun is seperated from the protester they will have the respect if not for the man then for the potential threat. With that potential threat to the police they suddenly prefer to talk things out rather then assault the protester into submission.
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Just to comment on some of the disinformation out there Adam has not been release nor has he been given a method to contact anyone. Last night Darrell (Adam's Production Manager) and I went to the philly jail and spoke with them and I was told that Feds came and picked him up... after going through the 2 low level cops that work the desk and speaking to the LT that was in charge (on video of course) we found out adam was being held at the federal jail rather than the local jail that we were at for "resisting arrest" and knowing Adam he most likely refused to process which is another charge... we rode over to the federal jail and spoke to a few people who confirmed Adam was being held in there... I was also told that he under no circumstances would be released without going in front of the judge on monday... anyone claiming that he has already been released is silly... I know being arrested for resisting arrest as the only charge seems crazy as Adam says "If it made sense it wouldn't be government"... when I hear any news I'll be sure to update this page and keep everyone informed. - Lucas
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That was off Adams twitter.
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Planting Drugs on Adam Kokesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDTmIwqcqmE#ws)
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Remember gents. Not everything is a conspiracy. not saying this isn't just saying not everything is.
Dude could have just been picked up and trying to find a spot to ditch the joint prior to being searched.
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I don't care what peoples views on pot are. But I do think that mixing fighting for gun rights and fighting for pot rights, isn't a good idea. People aren't going pay much attention to you, if they think you're just some stoner. You're going to lose a lot of credibility. Just sayin'!
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I don't care what peoples views on pot are. But I do think that mixing fighting for gun rights and fighting for pot rights, isn't a good idea. People aren't going pay much attention to you, if they think you're just some stoner. You're going to lose a lot of credibility. Just sayin'!
Too true. I've got some folks like that in my family. As much as I love them I acknowledge their life choices have set them down the path of self destruction. Much thanks to pot as a gateway. The idea of them with guns is honestly frightening. Which is in part why they are not allowed on certain family property.
When you start a movement like what Kokesh was trying it's best to keep it simple, pure, and based on facts. Otherwise your opposition can detract from your case by pointing out uncommon associations. Which ultimately will subvert the movement. Kind of like promoting NASCAR and alcohol consumption at the same time. The presupposition would suggest drinking and driving or as in this case, smoking weed and shooting recklessly. Essentially that he's irresponsible. A wiser man would've stayed away.
Ultimately we've got little time before the 4th arrives. I sincerely pray it comes and goes without incident, but I'll be wrapping up last minute prepping before then. Which I recommend everyone does. I believe we're later in this game than we realize.
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You know I am hearing nothing about this march except here on SP. Nothing in the main stream media or cable. Nothing in the papers (Yes I still read a paper) ;-) I wonder how the word will get out. I guess one person at a time, one blog at a time, one forum at a time. Throw in some tweating and FB.
One thing to do is follow how the communication develops as the date approaches. It might be a clue to "something."
Stay tuned...
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I'll be wrapping up last minute prepping before then. Which I recommend everyone does. I believe we're later in this game than we realize.
I was telling LD last night that I believe things will go down hill this year or in 2014 due to a number of factors. But you are right. It could happen anytime, including today or next week.
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Patriot news network is saying kokesh works for Obama, and ask people not to go to the march.
http://www.patriotnewsorganization.com/adam-kokesh-exposed-works-for-organizing-for-action-obama-for-america-do-not-follow-on-july-4th-march-on-dc/ (http://www.patriotnewsorganization.com/adam-kokesh-exposed-works-for-organizing-for-action-obama-for-america-do-not-follow-on-july-4th-march-on-dc/)
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Well WW and Sledge, add to the "perfect storm" swirling around us the latest Barry scandals. I think Sledge you posted somewhere on SP that another shoe was going to be dropped.
Same direction different gear:
Like him/hate him, Glenn Beck is predicting that Barry will be coming out of the closet this year - The Socialist closet that is.
What that means is he is going verbally say, out loud, something like, "we have tried Capitalism for the past 275 years and it hasn't worked. We have had the Bill of Rights for 250 years and due to all of the conservative groups we need to suspend / rewrite parts to better to protect you and your family. Blah, blah, blah.
I think that he will try to socialize the energy field. If the government had control of:
> Coal,
> Gas,
> Oil,
> Electric,
> Etc,
The government could pay off or considerably reduce the deficit in 10 years.
When Barry comes out and says what he feels openly, the mask will be off and for all of us to watch out. That will be the key to know when to head for your BOL as the gauntlet will have been thrown down.
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Adams not marching for gun rights.
Alcohols more dangerous then marijuana.
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JM, I'm not sure that he will come out and say he's a socialist. He might. But I have no doubts that he will try and nationalize energy along with many other industries. He has the self given power (EO's) to take over practically every industry in addition to state and local governments. And to use the military on US soil to do it in order to "prepare" in advance for an undescribed "national emergency".
He has a limited amount of time to accomplish this if he intends to have his reign (presidential term) extended into perpetuity. Several of his police state actions are coming out now. What is worrisome is wondering what he has been doing behind closed doors that hasn't been brought into the light of day yet.
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Open Carry March on D.C. July 4th - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXQZIJhiJs0#ws)
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I don't know who the guy in the video is, but I agree with him 100%. I have no intention of being a useful idiot helping Obama reach his endgame. Especially with the UN Small Arms Treaty going on Obama's desk on June 3 and then on the the Senate for a vote. How anyone could think by being arrested or shot in an armed march on DC will help that vote is beyond me. Does anyone really think that being shot or arrested is going to make Senators say "Oh No, we had better not mess with them by voting for gun control"?
I swear, the more I think about this the more I'm convinced that this is a psyop put in place by Obama's people at a critical time before the UN treaty vote. Talk about guys on the right letting their testosterone get the better of their judgement. Obama must think we are all neanderthals who just react without thinking things through. And he seems to be right about some.
Don't get me wrong. The guys who fall for this trap will be showing a lot of balls to walk into DC armed. But as is true with most situations. As difficult as it sometimes is, we guys are better served by thinking with our brains instead of our groins.
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The guy in the video is James Yeager.
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I agree in your comments Sledge!
In there is always a reaction to an action. Look at Newton's Third law...
... in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the force on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs.
Think about this: How is the media going to handle the showing up in DC armed with 10 people? 100 people? 1,000 People, 10,000 people. I contend that they will re-jump back onto the 'gun control band wagon' if there are 10 people or more.
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To anyone saying that a peaceful march into DC is going to hurt "X" what is "X"? What movement will this march hurt? Whats your plan A if this march isnt good. All im hearing is how this march will help Obama push his agenda. Well what is your offense? At this point are our best Americans truely just trying to throw sticks in the spokes of tranny to hopefully slow it down so they can maybe die with a few rights left? Are we seriously down to merely a sorry ass defense and no offense? I seriously hope your not putting all your hopes into their elected officials. Stop playing by their rules. This nonsense about the mainstream media twisting things needs to stop. The MSM fucks you over every day. Why would you suddenly care? I have more to say but im late for work.
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To anyone saying that a peaceful march into DC is going to hurt "X" what is "X"? What movement will this march hurt? Whats your plan A if this march isnt good. All im hearing is how this march will help Obama push his agenda. Well what is your offense? At this point are our best Americans truely just trying to throw sticks in the spokes of tranny to hopefully slow it down so they can maybe die with a few rights left? Are we seriously down to merely a sorry ass defense and no offense? I seriously hope your not putting all your hopes into their elected officials. Stop playing by their rules. This nonsense about the mainstream media twisting things needs to stop. The MSM fucks you over every day. Why would you suddenly care? I have more to say but im late for work.
10-fucking 4 bro. I completely agree.
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LOL! You young studs bring back memories. You probably haven't ever heard the story of the Old Bull and the Young Bull. They were standing on a hill one day and noticed some very attractive cows down in the valley. The young bull excitedly said, "We should run down the hill and have one of those pretty cows!" The old bull replied, "Let's walk down the hill and have all of them."
There will come a day shortly that calls for the actions that you call for. It just hasn't arrived yet for a reason. The Obama administration is on an ever increasing slow burn. Have you seen the look on Jay Carney's face every time he holds a press conference? He hates walking up to that podium and I'm sure that he would like to make an exit if he could. I'm sure that there are other low level members of the administration who feel the same way. Even the left is turning on them due to their activities. ( Even Piers Morgan on CNN is waking up, calling tyranny, and saying now he understands why the right says they need their guns. And the other media is doing the same.) And more is coming out which is going to aggravate the majority of citizens across the land on the left and the right and ruin the legacy of both Obama and Bush two. (There's a very good reason that Bush 2 has been keeping his mouth shut.)
But if we do stupid things it will drive many people who are just now catching on right back into Obama's camp. We need public support to make the changes that are necessary. As frustrating as it can be, timing is everything. Let them make the moves that will show them as the aggressors. Believe this, they are actively trying to get us to appear to be the aggressors so that they can save their skins.
Obama will make the move that will push everyone to our side. He's a megalomaniac who is burning inside because the masses aren't gathering to adore him any longer. They are starting to attack him and it is making him furious. Don't they know who he is? How dare they not worship him.
All of this means that those with cool heads will prevail. It will be tough because we have allowed our county's finances to be ruined. But in the end, we will prevail.
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LOL! You young studs bring back memories. You probably haven't ever heard the story of the Old Bull and the Young Bull.
Yea thats all I read before this popped into my head and I wandered off looking at random YT vids right after.
Stepbrothers quote - "I've Had the Old Bull Now I Want the Young Calf" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCuohleiV0#)
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
So when they engage us with modern rifles we only got one go around back?
I'm good bro I'll keep my AK
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
So when they engage us with modern rifles we only got one go around back?
I'm good bro I'll keep my AK
With muskets, it would play perfectly into a very sympathetic view of the protestors from those looking in on the outside. Unless some trigger happy government-types decides to take matters into their own hands.
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
So when they engage us with modern rifles we only got one go around back?
I'm good bro I'll keep my AK
With muskets, it would play perfectly into a very sympathetic view of the protestors from those looking in on the outside. Unless some trigger happy government-types decides to take matters into their own hands.
They will....they will
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The whole march is an extremely risky move to begin with. Why not maximize the effect with muskets?
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
So when they engage us with modern rifles we only got one go around back?
I'm good bro I'll keep my AK
Yeah exactly.. If you think an armed march is bad for the country. What do you think an armed march where all the good guys get mowed down holding symbolic muskets would do for moral? The point of an armed march is to say "I am armed and just as capable, you will hear what i have to say".
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How about a march where every carries muskets, instead of modern firearms. Less scary to the sheep and the musket is one of the symbols of our independence. That might be a much more useful show of force.
So when they engage us with modern rifles we only got one go around back?
I'm good bro I'll keep my AK
The point of an armed march is to say "I am armed and just as capable, you will hear what i have to say".
Ah, you're saying the guys in this march will be just as armed and just as capable as the US military in a standoff? Well, ok then. No problem. What was I thinking?
Crudos your idea about muskets is so far ahead of what these guys are up to, and has so much more of a chance of success that it's not even funny.
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Crudos your idea about muskets is so far ahead of what these guys are up to, and has so much more of a chance of success that it's not even funny.
A Million Musket March, now that would send a clear and powerful message. Never will happen, too many people have their heads stuck so far up their ass. But what a sight a million muskets would be marching on our Capitol! Gives me shivers.
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I loved your bull analogy Sledge! I know when "the" bull across from the BOL is going to get some; as he sniffs the cows butt and his lips curl back. LOL, O-Kay call us cow voyeurs if you want but that is about all there is to do for excitement at the BOL.
I love your idea Crudos- A March of men and women with muskets or pre-civil war rifles. NOBODY could complain about that one. I would even change my plans and go July 4th if that was what was planned.
Last, the tide is slowly turning folks: Just read...Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won?t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening ? or why she didn?t disclose it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III. Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.
Do I smell a special prosecutor in the air or is it that the cow is in season?
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Ah, you're saying the guys in this march will be just as armed and just as capable as the US military in a standoff?
I would gladly wager my next sorry ass paycheck that im more capable then a random draw from the US military. Theres a chance you draw a Ranger for example, but the odds are heavily in my favor that you dont. Will the men and woman in this march have 200 rounds on them? No... but 10,000 guys with a 30 rnd mag can control a fight pretty good. But to remind everyone this is a peaceful protest until otherwise announced by the other side.
Carrying muskets is a joke, why dont we just carry double edge swords without a sheath instead. Their still illegal and still worthless in backing up your words with show of physical force like a musket would be. The 1st amendment is backed up by the 2nd. But if were limiting ourselves to muskets we arent backing up a damn thing.. why do you think you need the 2nd to backup the 1st? To physically demand to be heard. America is so PC'd out im not sure theres any hope left.
@ Sledge, no disrespect but i think the day you and people like you are waiting for might never come. The stars arent ever going to align for you. There will never come a time without doubt in your mind wether the time is right or not. Playing this political chess game where your supposidly going to trap Obama from your couch is unlikely. Your not even on the board, hes moving your guys for you. Your entire plan relies on sorry ass elected officials (for the most part) to some how get obama in checkmate. Hes running the board and making new rules as he goes. Whats plan B because plan A blows...
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Ah, you're saying the guys in this march will be just as armed and just as capable as the US military in a standoff?
I would gladly wager my next sorry ass paycheck that im more capable then a random draw from the US military. Theres a chance you draw a Ranger for example, but the odds are heavily in my favor that you dont. Will the men and woman in this march have 200 rounds on them? No... but 10,000 guys with a 30 rnd mag can control a fight pretty good. But to remind everyone this is a peaceful protest until otherwise announced by the other side.
Carrying muskets is a joke, why dont we just carry double edge swords without a sheath instead. Their still illegal and still worthless in backing up your words with show of physical force like a musket would be. The 1st amendment is backed up by the 2nd. But if were limiting ourselves to muskets we arent backing up a damn thing.. why do you think you need the 2nd to backup the 1st? To physically demand to be heard. America is so PC'd out im not sure theres any hope left.
@ Sledge, no disrespect but i think the day you and people like you are waiting for might never come. The stars arent ever going to align for you. There will never come a time without doubt in your mind wether the time is right or not. Playing this political chess game where your supposidly going to trap Obama from your couch is unlikely. Your not even on the board, hes moving your guys for you. Your entire plan relies on sorry ass elected officials (for the most part) to some how get obama in checkmate. Hes running the board and making new rules as he goes. Whats plan B because plan A blows...
Ken, I'm not offended. We see two different things. In my opinion there is no way that an armed march in Washington is going to accomplish anything positive for our side. It will not intimidate anyone, put anyone on notice, or cause anyone to take us more seriously. By the way I'll wager that most of the people who do show up will be 40 pounds overweight. At best it will cause us to lose more rights by empowering the left. At worst some asshole from one side or the other is going to pull the trigger and those marchers are going to have their asses handed to them while they run like rabbits. Again providing a more powerful argument for the left. And an inevitable crackdown which will include us in addition to those marchers families and associations.. It's fools play any way it goes down.
That is exactly the way it will play whether they are facing the police or the military. If they did overcome the police and cause injuries or death, woe be to them as they're positions will no doubt be strafed if not over run by tanks. They won't cause the Fed the concern of a nat on an elephant's butt.
There are examples across the world, and many books written concerning the type of fight it will take if it comes to it. I won't go into them here as this is a prepper site, not a militia site. If it was a militia site, I would commend you on being in good shape and training. Then I would remind you that conditioning without strategy is nothing. If this march is the only concept of strategy that we can come up with, then we are wasting our time cleaning our guns.
Again this is just my opinion. What I think has no affect at all on what others do. Others will do what they do and I'll deal with the consequences of their foolish actions as will the rest of our side.
Edit: I'll say it again. This has all the makings of a psyop to take the heat off of Obama and put it on us. There is even talk of repealing the NDAA. So once again we get on a roll only to have people from our side "F" it up with either rhetoric, or actions, or threats that don't intimidate anyone. After a few times you would think we would start to ask ourselves if those "F"ing things up are actually on our side. In my opinion they are either their own worst enemy or they are liberal moles.
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Apparently, I'm not the only one who thinks this march smells like a psyop.
Adam Kokesh CAUGHT Working Directly With The Obama Administration
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2238243/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2238243/pg1)
Adam Kokesh EXPOSED - Works for 'Obama for America' / 'Organizing for Action' (Organizing Armed March on DC)
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2235897/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2235897/pg1)
Adam Kokesh EXPOSED - Works for 'Organizing for Action' / 'Obama for America' - DO NOT ATTEND MARCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCdADfVF6dI#ws)
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To everybody who thinks "we/you" should make this march in DC - Then go! Please report back to the forum the; Who, what, when, where and how of the march/event. And I will raise a glass to your efforts and thank you for participating.
If you are not going to the march in DC with or without your long gun; please step down from your soap box. To not do so is undirected bravado.
Thank you.
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Carrying muskets is a joke, why dont we just carry double edge swords without a sheath instead. Their still illegal and still worthless in backing up your words with show of physical force like a musket would be. The 1st amendment is backed up by the 2nd. But if were limiting ourselves to muskets we arent backing up a damn thing.. why do you think you need the 2nd to backup the 1st? To physically demand to be heard. America is so PC'd out im not sure theres any hope left.
Fair enough Ken. I think your missing my point, but maybe I'm not communicating it well enough. Wouldn't be the first time, nor the last. Too tired right now to care much, but still think a million musket march would be far more powerful statement, than a couple hundred with AR's and AK's, looking for a fight. Utter bloodbath that would be. That is something the rightwing and conservatives miss badly at is how to organize and make grand shows in the form of massive protests. Some might say they accomplish nothing, but it is very shortsighted. The Iraq war protests didn't end the war immediately, but they damn sure put a massive spotlight on the crooks and liars running the show. How effective was it? Well, we now have BOB has CIC, who ended the war in Iraq. If people think the protests didn't had any effect in the long-run, then they are living with blinders on and not seeing the real power that protests have. Ack, I've rambled on, more tomorrow if anyone is interested.
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@Crudos If the muskets were free you could easily get 1,000,000 to march on DC. Theres no risk. They are unarmed essentially. No risk produces little reward.
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If you are not going to the march in DC with or without your long gun; please step down from your soap box. To not do so is undirected bravado.
Thank you.
So if physically doing something regaurding this march is the only way to have credibility for an opinion this thread needs to be deleted.
But while im still firmly standing on my shaky soap box let me add that ill never get down. Ill always be yelling at stupid Liberals and clueless conservatives who have the views of a right leaning democrat.If i stop yelling im just as bad as them. Silence implies consent. And i do not consent to America be destroyed.
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@Crudos If the muskets were free you could easily get 1,000,000 to march on DC. Theres no risk. They are unarmed essentially. No risk produces little reward.
Not sure what risk has to do with anything when talking about protests. In America, there should be no risk for citizens to exercise their rights to speak out. That said, I doubt we could get a million 2nd Amendment supporters to march on DC, with or without firearms. The Million Musket March would be largely symbolic, but powerful, in my view, if we could get our shit together to do it. Of course, I would need to find an appropriate firearm.
:D
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Y'all are forgetting the most important aspect of this entire thing. Media.
Socialist love media and they control nearly every venue and outlet in America. It wouldn't matter if 1,000 or 1,000,000 marched on Washington with AR's, AK's, muskets, or airsoft rifles. They would be spun up as the aggressors. While they're doing that Obama and his little minions in the House and Senate will push for gun control and confiscation. They've been quoted saying they want it. What makes you think they won't use things like this to push it?
I don't want to offend anyone, but the idea of the march is so simplistic it's stupid. You don't fight an enemy who is decades deep in to their plan with a march. The infrastructure they've laid is in place and can adapt to nearly everything you have to throw at them. Realize that there are two mindsets at work here. Progressive and revolutionary. It's like trying to get honey out of a bee nest. Do you walk up and smack the nest? Or do you smoke the bees out slowly using caution? If they even see you coming at them they will jump in to that revolutionary stage and attempt to seize what they can while they can.
So when it does happen, the blood has to be undeniably on their hands. No way of washing it. It has to stain and stain deep. That way it's never erased from them minds of the people. No "Concord" moment. No historical revisionism. Just government tyranny caught red handed.
I once watched this clip of a wolf hunting. The wolf was chasing a cougar in the winter. Eventually the cougar thought it'd outsmart the wolf by climbing up a tall tree. Problem is that played in to the wolf's favor. The wolf laid down at the base of the tree as the cougar stood on a limb. Eventually the cougars legs froze and it fell out of tree. The wolf walked over casually and ripped out it's throat and then enjoyed a hearty dinner. Are you the cougar or the wolf? Patience is a virtue for a reason.
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Y'all are forgetting the most important aspect of this entire thing. Media.
Socialist love media and they control nearly every venue and outlet in America. It wouldn't matter if 1,000 or 1,000,000 marched on Washington with AR's, AK's, muskets, or airsoft rifles. They would be spun up as the aggressors. While they're doing that Obama and his little minions in the House and Senate will push for gun control and confiscation. They've been quoted saying they want it. What makes you think they won't use things like this to push it?
I don't want to offend anyone, but the idea of the march is so simplistic it's stupid. You don't fight an enemy who is decades deep in to their plan with a march. The infrastructure they've laid is in place and can adapt to nearly everything you have to throw at them. Realize that there are two mindsets at work here. Progressive and revolutionary. It's like trying to get honey out of a bee nest. Do you walk up and smack the nest? Or do you smoke the bees out slowly using caution? If they even see you coming at them they will jump in to that revolutionary stage and attempt to seize what they can while they can.
So when it does happen, the blood has to be undeniably on their hands. No way of washing it. It has to stain and stain deep. That way it's never erased from them minds of the people. No "Concord" moment. No historical revisionism. Just government tyranny caught red handed.
I once watched this clip of a wolf hunting. The wolf was chasing a cougar in the winter. Eventually the cougar thought it'd outsmart the wolf by climbing up a tall tree. Problem is that played in to the wolf's favor. The wolf laid down at the base of the tree as the cougar stood on a limb. Eventually the cougars legs froze and it fell out of tree. The wolf walked over casually and ripped out it's throat and then enjoyed a hearty dinner. Are you the cougar or the wolf? Patience is a virtue for a reason.
If we can't win with peace, where do we start with violence that will actually do good?
If you can't answer then why are we here? Why are we " preppers " ?
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If we can't win with peace, where do we start with violence that will actually do good?
If you can't answer then why are we here? Why are we " preppers " ?
We can win with peace, but it'd take decades. I doubt you, I, or anyone else on this board is patient enough for that though. Here's the problem as it presents itself. The tactics being utilized by the left are synonymous with anarcho-pacifism. If you're not familiar with the movement check it out and you'll see the dilemma that arises from it for us. If we pursue any action which could be deemed violent, aggressive, or confrontational by themselves we'd be the "bad guy." This leaves us constantly taking a step back. This social perception has been widely adopted in mainstream society on even a subconscious level. Dare I say programmed. People can call me crazy, but I believe MK Ultra may have a hand in that. It answers the "why" of not seeing more people up in arms over clear injustices and untruths over the decades.
I could suggest that they are too smart and realize they'd be walking in to the trap set up by anarcho-pacifist, but I doubt that'd be true. So how do we defeat such a crafty beast? Simple. You out live it, out smart it, and keep one step ahead of it. Unfortunately for us they've done so much in the dark for so many years we definitely have some catching up to do in the social and political realms, but to our advantage are their flawed economic programs. You see eventually the beast will start consuming itself just to stay afloat. That will mean cutting social welfare programs and essentially turning it's guns on those who rely on it. Which presents a hefty opportunity for anyone wanting to restore "America" by means of revolution.
That to me though seems unwise. Though I'm not an anarcho-pacifist I do believe it could all be done with some pacifism. This is one iota I'll give Ron Paul, but more so George Washington. A free state seceding from the Union and declaring itself economically independent, denying all trade with the states, could declare itself an isolationist state. Such a state would be free of attack by the Union because of their own philosophy. If the Union pursued an attack to retaliate after the secession they'd draw heavy criticism from citizens with family in the free state. Not to mention the moderate right. If economically independent it would become more attractive. A "city on a hill" if you will. Think back to a simple concept when you were a kid. Show and tell. All the other kids would covet what you had. Same concept here, only in this case the people would literally make the change of their own free will to leave behind the old state. Before that though you'd have to set up a reinforced Constitution based infrastructure with more safeguards against the subversion that has inflicted us. Once that was accomplished properly I'd give the acting States only one or two decades before they collapsed and were literally reabsorbed and fashioned in to a new United States. Like a mythical phoenix it could be reborn out of the ashes.
But that's not going to happen.....Why? People are blind, corrupt, and selfish. Hell, the vast majority doesn't even realize these bastards attending Bohemian Grove are really just worshiping Molech aka Ba'al. So what will happen? Destruction. Vast, widespread destruction. So that's why you prep my friend. Your freedom was given by God himself. You use it to protect yours. And I'll use it to protect mine. As for the rest? If they have no wisdom and no conviction to good who are you or I to make any sacrifice for them? It falls on deaf ears. To few care about our men dying in bogus wars. Why would they care if anyone dies for their "freedom?" I may go all biblical once in a while, but as to paraphrase Yahushua "it will be in the end as it was in the days Noah." Meaning, we're prepping because I believe we're listening to the Holy Spirit saying "shit is gonna go down." And the rest are still partying, drinking, and goofing off. When the "flood" hits, where is their ark? Out live'em. That's why we prep. Anyone who says otherwise I suggest needs to go back and keep reading until the grasp how we got here.
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Not that my bloodline isn't bad ass. 8) ::) :P But I have very little faith in the teachings of others
( parents as teachers )
That being said, if there's going to be a war I want in on it. I can't pass this information on for a few generations and hope for the best. LETS FUCKING GO
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Not that my bloodline isn't bad ass. 8) ::) :P But I have very little faith in the teachings of others
( parents as teachers )
That being said, if there's going to be a war I want in on it. I can't pass this information on for a few generations and hope for the best. LETS FUCKING GO
Ain't saying you can't or won't. Simply exercise patience.
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I've been exercising and have been patient....to be honest I'm kinda tired of both. :P
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http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/05/adam-kokesh-released-from-federal-custody-felony-charges-reduced-to-citations-2661412.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/05/adam-kokesh-released-from-federal-custody-felony-charges-reduced-to-citations-2661412.html)
There ya go folks. We're just over a month away.
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FOX News 131705 : DC will never be the same after Adam Kokesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zCwD-dRoo#ws)
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Adam Kokesh Calls Off July 4th Washington DC Open Carry March
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/adam-kokesh-calls-off-july-4th-washington-dc-open-carry-march/ (http://gunssavelives.net/blog/adam-kokesh-calls-off-july-4th-washington-dc-open-carry-march/)
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Fuckin' pussy
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Adam needs to come march on CA capital with a loaded gun then... What a fuckin let down.
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Adam needs to come march on CA capital with a loaded gun then... What a fuckin let down.
Fuck yeah he does!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SW1ZDIXiuS4#t=19s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SW1ZDIXiuS4#t=19s)
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In retrospect to this whole fiasco, looked simply an attempt at self-promotion of AK, rather than a real grassroots movement/protest/march.
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In retrospect to this whole fiasco, looked simply an attempt at self-promotion of AK, rather than a real grassroots movement/protest/march.
Bingo.
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Kokesh officially declared laughing stock by Young Turks SHTF WROL VR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySt9hmP9OCY#ws)
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To funny! :cheers: