Palisades Fire (s) Terrorist Generated?

[JohnyMac]

It is becoming apparent that some of the fires in and around the Palisades CA. fire are being intentionally set. There has been YT videos showing folks throwing accelerant on fires and some arrests have been made.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KvI6OeGfg

What if many if not all of the California fires were being set on purpose?

If you look at the devastation in the Palisades it looks like a small yield tactical nuclear shell was fired from a howitzer. If this is a case of arson who did it? Illegal alien sent to this country for just this kind of attack? If it is a terrorist attack, will we ever know?

Interesting. Today fire during seasonal Santa Anna winds in the Palisades; tomorrow someone shooting at transformers in your neighborhood.

Thoughts
 



 

[Nemo]

Be ready to return fire.  In both instances.

Nemo

[Jackalope]

     The LA fires are horrible and we pray for all those that are effected.  It does appear that many of these fires were intentionally set.  If these were terrorist attacks, the guilty nation states should be punished.  I believe a small number of homeowners were able to save their homes through preparations and temerity.  I?m sure we?re going to see ramifications over the next several decades, and many unforeseen consequences . Think of the loss of tax revenue alone, which could cause a downward spiral in state, county, and local governments.  Maybe some folks will realize that change is needed.

   As we build a new home in a forested area, we were already considering methods of mitigating wildfires.  Our new home will have metal walls and a metal roof.  Vegetation has already been cleared from the area where the house will be built and gravel/stone will be spread around the house, so no vegetation will be in close proximity of the home.  We have a rain water catchment system, which will be in addition to town water.  We?ve already purchased 12vdc spray tanks which can be mounted on ATV?s or a pickup truck bed.  We plan on doing some forestry management too.  There are no hydrants near our home, so we plan on being as self sufficient as possible.  The fires reinforced our belief that we need to be smart about dealing with wildfires.

     We already have a decent sized solar system that will help keep us independent if the electric grid goes down.  I think one of the contributing factors to the panic in the population was the loss of electricity.  One of the unforeseen consequences of the LA fires is the shutdown of the gasoline pipeline to Las Vegas.  I?ve seen videos of cars lined up waiting to purchase gas.  That?s just one example of the domino effect that a major disaster can cause.

[DMCakhunter]

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/arson-eyed-las-kenneth-fire-suspect-gang-tackled-residents
Good article on looters and arsonists. If true.
Also a creative theif with a torch

[DMCakhunter]

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/do-not-panic-buy-la-fire-crisis-disrupts-main-fuel-pipeline-las-vegas

Vegas fuel crisis. Seems 90% of their fuel comes from a pipeline from LA, which is shut down. May open tomorrow. Per article.
Crazy times.

[JohnyMac]

All good comments and thoughts. 

I was called yesterday concerning a group of folks - Think the Cajun Navy of Sorts - heading towards LA next week to help out. I was asked about coms and putting together an "open & play" pelican case full of the coms thy will need.
I applaud the groups desire to formalize their coms, however, it should have been done awhile back.

Anyhow, as I explained what was needed, especially operators with a FCC license, I could sense the individual I was speaking with, eyes glaze over. To a degree, there is away around this challenge and that is a simple FRS/GMRS license. This license just requires a FRN number and $35-. Of course the frequencies are restricted but with that license and the use of MURS frequencies which are open, they would have workable frequencies in VHF and UHF. 

MrsMac and I have been praying for this folks since Monday. We can point to the total incompetence of the local and state leadership however, there will be plenty of time for that once the smoke has cleared but not today.

Last, whether it was a planned attack by terrorist's on a mission or a bunch of LA whack-a-doodles doing it, the blame for the spread of the fires lays squarely with local and state .gov. 

[JohnyMac]

The incompetence of California .gov continues.

Fire trucks loaned to CA. from other states being returned and or held up due to CA. smog restrictions.

 https://genesiustimes.com/breaking-california-rejects-oregon-firefighters-after-their-trucks-fail-smog-check/

[JohnyMac]

I never thought of this...

Threat # 1 is playing out ala Palisades and area fires.
Threat # 2 is the hordes of rapists, thieves, murderers who live on the fringes of LA. What is there next move? We saw a small preview during the Rodney King riots of 1992. This I suspect with the police, fireman, etc. all focused on the fire and the inability to get around, we are going to see the Rodney King riots on steroids.

Here is a X link to a guy who things the same thing. If you do not subscribe to X, no worries as I outlined his comments above.

https://x.com/i/status/1877708989535785133

Will Marshal Law be implemented in LA and surrounding communities in the days coming?

[Felix]

"Fire trucks loaned to CA. from other states being returned and or held up due to CA. smog restrictions."

The saying Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad, sometimes given in Latin as Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat (literally: Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason) or Quem Iuppiter vult perdere, dementat prius (literally: Those whom Jupiter wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason) - Wikipedia

Downstream, we will ALL be forced to suffer some of the costs of "California Crazy".   Our economy is now one big Jenga tower.    And is that the table we feel jiggling just a bit?

[grizz]

     The LA fires are horrible and we pray for all those that are effected.  It does appear that many of these fires were intentionally set.  If these were terrorist attacks, the guilty nation states should be punished.  I believe a small number of homeowners were able to save their homes through preparations and temerity.  I?m sure we?re going to see ramifications over the next several decades, and many unforeseen consequences . Think of the loss of tax revenue alone, which could cause a downward spiral in state, county, and local governments.  Maybe some folks will realize that change is needed.

   As we build a new home in a forested area, we were already considering methods of mitigating wildfires.  Our new home will have metal walls and a metal roof.  Vegetation has already been cleared from the area where the house will be built and gravel/stone will be spread around the house, so no vegetation will be in close proximity of the home.  We have a rain water catchment system, which will be in addition to town water.  We?ve already purchased 12vdc spray tanks which can be mounted on ATV?s or a pickup truck bed.  We plan on doing some forestry management too.  There are no hydrants near our home, so we plan on being as self sufficient as possible.  The fires reinforced our belief that we need to be smart about dealing with wildfires.

     We already have a decent sized solar system that will help keep us independent if the electric grid goes down.  I think one of the contributing factors to the panic in the population was the loss of electricity.  One of the unforeseen consequences of the LA fires is the shutdown of the gasoline pipeline to Las Vegas.  I?ve seen videos of cars lined up waiting to purchase gas.  That?s just one example of the domino effect that a major disaster can cause.

When I had a home in the mountains it was in a very high fire risk area. I researched online and found the "experts" recommend 30' distance between home and trees. I looked outside and laughed because many of my trees were 40+' tall. I paced off 40 yards, calculated in my head a burning ember being blown in the wind and decided to go even further away from the house. Except for small flower gardens and other small areas to make it look nice, the area was a no burn zone

Yes I agree this is a man caused event either from our own govt or outsiders or both, is unknown and probably never known

[JohnyMac]

Question for this illustrious group...

In California, if your house burns down, what is your property tax liability now?

In my neck of the woods you are taxed on your land and buildings you have on that land. I am sure you can see where I am going with this question? While Nero fiddled Rome burned and LA lost a good portion of their revenue obtained from property taxes.

The expected property tax revenue for the 2024-2025 is estimated $2,766,499,000 (Yes, that is billion). For kicks and giggles that areas effected by the fire is 10% of the annual property tax receipts or $276,649,900 (yes, that is millions) how will LA make up the shortfall for 2025?

Should be interesting to watch this shell game.

 

[DMCakhunter]

Well, it should be land only. But who knows what the empowered will demand.

[Nemo]

I expect the raw land value will be rather reduced.  There will likely be more than a few lots and building places on the market.

Nemo