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Offline WhiskeyJack

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I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« on: September 14, 2011, 09:38:08 PM »
Hello
I am posting this to apologize to all our members for my part in cheapening this site and our over all objectives.
I recently posted a joking response to Rever and unintentionally opened a flood gate that has lessened us.
I personally forgot our intent here. And that is to share and advance the ideals of Prepping. I too enjoy a good laugh and yes I am a sick puppy from time to time. But I feel now, that we should use other methods of communicating our less than appetizing attempts at humor in other ways. Such as PMs, email and ICQ.
I would hope that in the future we can maintain this site with some dignity and decorum that will let any and all who come here know. We are serious about our Preparedness culture and not a bunch of slack jawed idiots. If someday we ever had to stand up and defend our ideals, Perhaps we can point to this site and say to the nay Sayers. We are not some fringe group that threatens others who may not agree with us. We are intelligent and sincere people who want to exchange ideas and make our little slice of the pie better.
It is my intention to apologize to you all now, for my part in this debacle, that has cost us two very good members and community friends. And to reaffirm that I will conduct myself in a professional manner that will represent the members of this site as you deserve. With dignity and decorum.  because hear on the internet when one of us speaks the world at large can point to that and say, "see that's how all these yahoos are" . I love and respect free speech but there are times and places for it my friends. You wouldn't go into a kindergarten class and talk to the kids about how much you love pussy.  Perhaps we can all display a little self discipline and keep this forum as a respectable source of good information for preppers and the curious alike.
This is not an attack on any one person on this site. I'm pretty sure I'm the one who started this debacle and this is my attempt to fix it, and move back to doing what we set out to do in the first place.

Humbly yours
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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 10:01:11 PM »
It's not your fault. Helmet wearing, booger eaters make up the majority the site.
It's just an extension of the L&L BS. There will NEVER-FUCKIN' EVER be an organized attempt
to better the community as a whole, EVER! Not with the demographics here. Just take a look around.


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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 10:19:06 PM »
Thanks for stepping up Whiskey,

Sorry to see you go Tech but you hit the nail on the head on the way out, thanks for what you brought to the forum.

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 10:24:32 PM »
 :-\

I concur.

I think that, I will just hang out and keep my mouth shut from now on. I will be participating just not as often.
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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 10:39:53 PM »
Ok, I must be missing something as I cannot locate the thread in question.

Well, I guess I'll be seeing you on M4C, Tech (when it comes back up)

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 11:09:35 PM »
Whiskey pulled his own thread Dave, its why I gave him props..

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 11:11:22 PM »
Whiskey pulled his own thread Dave, its why I gave him props..

While that may be better for the site, it still leaves me as unsatisfied as any girl that ever found herself in my bed  ;D

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 11:12:03 PM »
whiskey, you're A-ok in my book bud. I've fucked up recently as well so trust me, you're not the only one. You have posted more useful information than most, and this thread proves your sincerity.

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 11:45:05 PM »
TY nola. its appreciated. And dave i made a silly coment that just snowballed. wasnt my intention. I did change the post because i really do want to Make this a resourse for knowledge not ridicule. If and when we ever find oursleves in a SHTF world. We will all be playing by our own rules then. But untill such time i just think we are all guests in this house and we should show a little respect to our hosts and fellow guests. 
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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 12:01:02 AM »
G'day. Thank You Whiskey for your apology and stepping up to be the better man. I felt the need here just to add a couple of things that I think we all need to remember as preppers on a international public forum.

1. WHAM, Winning Hearts And Minds of all those around us. It's important to remember that some of the people on this forum are new to the prepping scene and what they see on these forums is a bigger influence on them than we may all realise. Influential members on this forum(I'm talking about those who make alot of informative threads or posts) have a somewhat unspoken responsibility to those new members that join these forums. This unspoken responsibility is given by the rest of the community to uphold moral standards and to promote preppers in a positive way.
The counter productive actions of this enable those who oppose the ideals that we follow, the ammo they need to bolster their arguements in discrediting our choice of lifestyle. We encountered people like this on MrLnL's site and youtube, those members know what I'm talking about.

2. The freedom of speech is a right in America, however that right comes with the responsibility of how you exercise it. There are some topics that are taboo for an open forum such as this one and if you wish to make jokes that are considered morally taboo, think first of the other people of the site. Don't get me wrong, I'm an Australian Soldier, we have some of the darkest humor that gets around, but we're also taught that there's a time and place for it and even then, exercise caution because there may be someone who will still be offended by it.

3. Taking things with a grain of salt. Now what I mean by this is not to roll over and pretend that someone has not done something to offend you, but to gain a different perspective and try and understand where the other person is coming from. If you are still offended by what ever they have done, then tell them in a respectfull manner and tone. Leaving after one bad experience however is not helpfull and counter productive to all the new members of the site, it makes us look childish, that we can't talk things out rationally and like adults. If the person who has offended you is still acting offensive, then there is nothing wrong with reporting their behavior to the mods, after that ignore them(the offender that is.) I have faith that the creator of this site will do the right thing and have a chat with that member and sort it out one way or another.

Well that's my 2 cents on this, sorry about the long post, but I felt the need to get this off my chest. And Whiskey, once again good job on stepping up mate.

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 12:08:43 AM »
Hey you guys all know that me and tg make videos for everyone, and set this website up for everyone.   Its not some type of adversarial situation.  Be our friends, and brothers.

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 12:09:40 AM »
Wow.  Looks like I missed a fireworks show tonight.  We found out at 5:30 my mother in law went into ICU last night.  (Her husbands a real bastard for not calling anyone.)  Spent the evening in West Palm.  Bad situation.

It looks like everyone here got it all worked out though.  Well, most everyone.  You gotta say one thing about technique.  That guy can string words together to paint a picture like few others can!  Maybe he'll change his mind.

Whiskey you've been one busy guy.   Man, how do you come up with so much stuff so fast?  That's one hell of a lot of typing brother.  Good job and great info.

Dave M isn't doing too shabby either.

« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 12:14:33 AM by sledge »



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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 06:02:37 AM »
Alright, so, can everyone agree that they're not going to leave for silly things like this? I hate to see great members leave for stuff that is so meaningless.


Whiskey; Rock on bro. Don't even think about f'in leaving us, smart cookie. ;D


Tech; You're awesome, hope you'll come back sometime. Lot of info from you.

Everyone else; get back to work :))

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 11:22:54 AM »
WTF!

I don't know what happened but I can only imagine based some of the comments directed towards WhiskeyJacks apology. Thanks to WJ for being a stand-up guy.

It appears that Straight Prep had a Mr.L&L moment. You know when new people came onto the site or someone posted a perfectly good question and then got skewered.  Let's remember that we lost some good folks and scared off a shit-ton from that forum. I am no saint and I contributed to the skewering just as much as others. Was it fun? Yup it was. Was it responsible of me? No it was not.

Since I came to this site I have purposely ignored "stupid" posts by others and the threads that result. I want to hold up my hand and say that I was wrong.

I left the policing to other folks and did not take the responsibility to point out what was wrong with the thread and "tuck in" the offending member (s) via PM or phone. That will change as of this writing.

My last comment here was said to me by a past boss who I admired a lot. It was when we first got e-mail and internet capabilities at work. He said, "Just remember what ever you write nobody can see in your eyes if you are serious or not. Once you write something and hit send; it is now somewhere in the archives of the internet and it can always be found and used against you reguardless of your intent."

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 12:08:54 PM »
I for one plan to be less confrontational. I know I can be an opinionated crank. I tend to see everything in black and white. Sorry to see you go Technique.

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Re: I owe this site and its members an apology!!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 10:58:48 PM »
Missed whatever happened. Been workin alot. Hates off for steppin up though
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Wiskey, I missed your post as well, but?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 08:39:41 PM »
Hello all, RON L here,

   I missed Wiskey's Post as well. but sounds like he had one of those moments we all have and now has Pulled the tread and apologized? I see that as having a Big heart and I applaude him for that! I hope we can all work together and do what we need to and post items to help each other, thats the purpose I saw the site for? Rock on and Keep prepping???


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