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With the close of Defenses case, based on what YOU have heard so far is Zimmerman?

Guilty of 2nd degree murder
1 (5.6%)
Guilty of Manslaughter
2 (11.1%)
Not Guilty
15 (83.3%)

Total Members Voted: 14

Voting closed: July 17, 2013, 11:42:42 AM

Author Topic: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?  (Read 1771 times)

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Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« on: July 10, 2013, 11:42:42 AM »
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2013, 11:55:12 AM »
Please clarify the poll question.

Is it:

What do I think the verdict will be?
OR
What would I vote if I were on the jury?
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2013, 12:37:56 PM »
What YOU think the verdict should be based on the info presented by the prosecuting and defense teams? Who knows how the jury will go.  ;)
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 02:19:29 PM »
Looks like I'm on the outside on this topic, again, lol.

I'm more sad that a schmuck like GZ could likely be the catalyst for whether we can legally defend ourselves with a firearm in the future.

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 04:49:08 PM »
Crudos you have a point.

I think if he is found not guilty the DOJ is going to swoop in and charge him with a federal hate crime. Drone Holder is out there flying around at 10,000' just waiting.
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 08:24:45 PM »
Not guilty

Riots in the streets for the win.  :fuckYeah:
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 08:47:19 PM »
Manslaughter because he was a dumb-shit.  With great power comes great responsibility.  He should not have followed the thug.  Gun owners have a higher responsibility to avoid places, times, and situations where trouble could be.  There you have it:  Zimmerman was a dumb-shit, Martin was a piece-of-shit, and I'm really tired about hearing the whole thing everyday. :suicide:

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 09:58:50 PM »
1000Meter, I am too tired of hearing about it.

Nobody and I mean nobody is talking about this trial around here in NE. The only time I hear about it is on the National news.

Will there be riots in the large "urban" cities if the verdict comes in guilty or not guilty...Maybe. However, I believe in the American people to say, "Yeah it may suck BUT Zimmerman is not guilty."

There are area's of the country I worry about either way. Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philadelphia, St. Louis, and parts of Florida who might go retard.

I worry for: Burt & Crudos, Rah, Gap & EJR, Stockpile, RvR, Colombo & Sledge. Watch your backs guys...
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 10:28:50 PM »
I'm working a part time security job while I get this business up and going.  It's at Mel Fisher's Treasure Museum in Sebastian.  We had "Kill The Crackers" spray painted in black paint all over the side of the building Sunday night.  What a mess.  I'm shocked someone feels that much hatred for saltines, grahams, and Ritz crackers.  They must have choked while eating a cracker at some point in their past or something.  When the trial is over I think that I will go down to the Walmart Supercenter and watch the excitement on the cracker aisle.  :popcorn:   



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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 10:36:13 PM »
 :lmfao: Oh man Sledge!

Now we all know I have a permanent tin foil tricorned hat affixed on my head BUT...I think the media is hoping for an American Summer due to the Zimmerman decision.

It will be up to the good Lord as to what happens. Either way we will be prepared.  ;)

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 10:43:47 PM »
I think you are right JM.  We'll see how it goes.  I've thought about driving over to Ft. Pierce after the trial comes out and passing out Ritz crackers to everyone I meet.  But then I decided against it.



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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 08:04:56 AM »
WOW Sledge what a great idea! The question is if Ritz is the correct cracker.  :dance:

You might not be as well received giving out a Ritz cracker; maybe Triscuit, graham or saltine cracker would be more appropriate.

We will have to check with Emily Post.  ;)
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 08:24:22 AM »
I dunno sledgie, those baked ritz chips in the different flavors are awesome!  Must have an addictive chemical in them.  That's why I call 'em "crack chips." :whip:

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 09:02:37 AM »
So there you have it...Not Guilty.

Not guilty by 6 women. Some of the jurors were mom's too so I am sure they were empathetic to Martin's mom's loss.

I am sure a civil suit will follow now. The only good thing out of that will be - The lawyers will make money.  :facepalm:
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2013, 10:29:01 AM »
So there you have it...Not Guilty.

Not guilty by 6 women. Some of the jurors were mom's too so I am sure they were empathetic to Martin's mom's loss.

I am sure a civil suit will follow now. The only good thing out of that will be - The lawyers will make money.  :facepalm:

As I understand it, in Florida (as with my state) you are no liable after found innocent in a criminal trial.  Though Martin's family already got a hefty payout from the home-owner's association.

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2013, 11:06:25 AM »
I might sound like a mean asshole for this, buuuuuut,


Who really cares about this anyway? The kid is dead, D E A D dead. No amount of charges and trials will bring him back. I can understand the want for "justice", but the fact of the matter is this doesn't effect us (minus the whole rioting/civil disturbance which could for some).

Why do people care about this when there are much bigger, more important issues that effect us daily? I don't see people out in the streets because of the NSA spying program. I don't see people rioting over the huuuuge reliance we have upon fossil fuels. Where are the people protesting en mass about how many chemicals are put in our food now?


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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2013, 12:19:20 PM »
All good points Frosty.

As I wrote earlier, nobody is talking about this case in my neck of the woods other than the media - Where it is non-stop. So my radio has stayed to stations with music not news and/ or commentary.

The big news up at the cabin is the new calf called Liberty. He was born to our neighbors Guernsey cow on Independence day. So now they have a new bull Highlander and Guernsey all within about 35 days.

The other big news is that the turkey's are growing well, they didn't loose the apples in the late frost; haying is going well with few machinery breakdowns and the wheat is growing like a weed. Oh and Barry is an incompetent nincompoop.  Almost forgot that one  :fuckYeah:


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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2013, 12:30:53 PM »
Don't get me started on Barry.

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2013, 12:36:33 PM »
You mean Mr. Setero?
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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2013, 02:07:14 PM »
I'm with 1KM on this one. I don't think Zimmerman had justification to follow Martin, since he didn't see Martin do anything wrong. Seems like he was profiling, and while that can be a useful tool, I don't think it justifies following someone. If I was walking down the street in a black neighborhood, and a random black guy sitting in a car started following me, I'd feel threatened. Martin is dead now, and cannot defend himself, so we only have Zimmerman's and bystanders' accounts of the incident. I do feel that Zimmerman, by getting out of his vehicle with the specific intention of following Martin, did provide the first spark in escalating tensions that led to Martin straddling and beating Zimmerman, and Zimmerman drawing and firing his pistol. I do not believe that Zimmerman meant for things to escalate nearly to that level, but I do not see how he had any business following a guy just walking down the street.

If there had been other things in Zimmerman's mind, such as recent serious crimes (robberies, thefts, assaults, whatever) in his neighborhood by black males, then perhaps profiling would have been enough to follow, at a distance, just to make sure Martin didn't suddenly disappear into someone's yard. Unless Martin did something illegal, he had every right to walk down the street unmolested by Zimmerman physically or emotionally. I would have voted manslaughter if I had been on the jury, if everything I just described is how the incident actually happened.

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2013, 02:22:40 PM »
Not guilty

Riots in the streets for the win.  :fuckYeah:

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2013, 07:38:39 PM »
Crudos you have a point.

I think if he is found not guilty the DOJ is going to swoop in and charge him with a federal hate crime. Drone Holder is out there flying around at 10,000' just waiting.


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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 08:34:45 AM »
Holder is a murderer and a hypocrite.  Anyway, I don't expect the African-American community up here in North Dakota to riot - they all have jobs. :dancingGrenade:

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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2013, 12:59:17 PM »
There are black people in North Dakota? :o



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Re: Florida vs. George Zimmerman - Outcome?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2013, 06:51:40 PM »
I hear the police have gone full retard in L.A. and that the fine folks of the People's Republic are out in the streets blocking traffic and throwing rocks.