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Offline TheBugOutKid

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Did you know that.... ?
« on: October 08, 2012, 12:14:03 PM »
id rather take my chances on the flu then with the flu shot.

I hope you don't mind me quoting you Kentactic but you brought up a point I haven't seen on here yet.
I mean I've seen a lot of dissing the flu shot but not an explanation.
I've been doing a TON of research on this very subject recently. I work at a pharmacy that offers flu shots and it peaked my curiosity. And now I know without a shadow of a doubt that neither I nor anyone in my family will be getting a flu shot if I can help it.

I figured most of you are on the same page with this one but I thought, just in case one of you hadn't heard, better safe then sorry I didn't share my findings.
So here you are, the most important reasons not to get the flu shot.

*** The flu shot is only able to protect against certain strains of the flu, so if you come into contact with a strain that you are not protected from, then you will still get the flu. In 2004, The National Vaccine Information Center reported that the vaccine given that year did not contain the flu strain that caused the majority of flu outbreaks that year.

*** The flu vaccine contain Thimerosal, which is made up of mercury, a heavy metal that is NO WAY good for you. I keep finding different numbers regarding the amount of mercury in the flu shot in particular buuuuut side affects of mercury toxicity include depression, memory loss, attention deficit disorder, anger, oral cavity disorders, digestive disorder, anxiety, cardiovascular problems, respiratory issues, thyroid and other glandular imbalances, and low immune system to name a few.

*** It also contains Polysorbate 80 as an emulsifier.  Which can not only cause anaphylactic shock but polysorbate 80 may cause reproductive effects, cancer, and may be a mutagenic in animals.

Aaaaaand  I saved the best for last!
**** There is growing evidence that flu shots cause Alzheimer's disease due to the aluminum and formaldehyde combined with mercury. Some research suggests that people who received the flu vaccine each year for 3 to 5 years had 10 times greater chance of developing Alzheimer's disease than people who did not have any flu shots.

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Re: Did you know that.... ?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 12:18:18 PM »
the flu is something i get every few years it sucks for a week then i'm good
whoopty fucking doo why would anyone get a shot just for that anyways?
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Re: Did you know that.... ?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 01:06:50 PM »
the flu is something i get every few years it sucks for a week then i'm good
whoopty fucking doo why would anyone get a shot just for that anyways?

because their benevolent leaders told them to.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 03:09:16 PM »
Exactly.  Forget Flu shots.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 08:51:40 PM »
Funny story:

I was talking to my sister in law who is a RN this weekend. She told me that her job 'requires' her to get a fly shot. If she doesn't she can't work.

On the other end, she told me and my brother that neither of us should get one. She is a big believer in it's good to:

> Get stung by a bee now and then (Of course if you are not Anaphylaxis)
> Don't wash your hands constantly
> Get a cold (It gives you anti-bodies)
> Get the flu (It gives you anti-bodies)
> For kids to eat dirt (Remember when your Mom would freak out)
> Etc.

She feels to a degree that it's Gods's way of immunizing us against the next strain of what ever.

As a side note: I was told that if I eat / drink beverages with local honey in them, my allergies would be less annoying. Well I have done that for a few years and in fact my intake of allergy med's has diminished in the spring and fall.

Food for thought....
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 10:45:01 PM »
might be working as a emt in a while and they require a flu shot.
All i was told is that it is synthetic.
What kinda of poisons am i looking at going into my body.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 12:45:00 AM »
might be working as a emt in a while and they require a flu shot.
All i was told is that it is synthetic.
What kinda of poisons am i looking at going into my body.

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In immunology, an adjuvant is an agent that may stimulate the immune system and increase the response to a vaccine, without having any specific antigenic effect in itself.


There are many different adjuvants.  Here's a write-up about them... It has a lot of big words so just pay close attention to the adverse effects of each type:  http://whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html#ADJUVANTS_

The addition of adjuvants (and preservatives) is NOT necessary for an immunization to take.  IMO, these chemical compounds are added for the purposes of eugenics (thinning the herd/reducing lifespan), and so the medical industrial complex can profit from your slow death. 

Personally, I would go on the government dole, and/or loose everything I own before I would take any vaccine... No job is worth taking a vaccine... for me.

« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 04:38:00 AM by special-k »
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 03:29:02 AM »
I hate that fucking shit. Parden my French but IMO that's exactly what it is.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 08:05:19 AM »
I hate that fucking shit. Parden my French but IMO that's exactly what it is.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 11:27:00 AM »
Pill for this, shot for that...

For once those herbalist hippies got something right!  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 12:10:00 PM »
Hey v0dka, most vaccines are little more than a collection of toxic heavy metals.

I can't speak to if they work or not, the proof is in the pudding.

What I can speak to is what Mountian was saying. There is a point where vaccines are a good thing... No one wants to die of Polio and they finally got that stopped in our father's generation...

But the common flu? Really that is the next big killer? Skip the poison, get sick, build anti-bodies stay in the primary.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 01:01:59 PM »
unfortunately i can't say no if i want to work as a emt. I'll be missing this flu season as i am still in training. Hopefully next year alot will change in the realm of flu shots.
At least i won't be paying for poison to be put in my body. I can get one free of charge now and when i'm wokring.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 01:54:41 PM »
I've held jobs that asked for much worse than a flu shot dude.

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 04:57:22 PM »
I'm going to try to weasel my way around it. I really don't know all of the procedures around it yet.
I bet there is some way around it i find out when the time comes I still got a year to go.
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Re: Did you know that.... ?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 11:50:57 PM »
Funny story:

I was talking to my sister in law who is a RN this weekend. She told me that her job 'requires' her to get a fly shot. If she doesn't she can't work.

On the other end, she told me and my brother that neither of us should get one. She is a big believer in it's good to:

> Get stung by a bee now and then (Of course if you are not Anaphylaxis)
> Don't wash your hands constantly
> Get a cold (It gives you anti-bodies)
> Get the flu (It gives you anti-bodies)
> For kids to eat dirt (Remember when your Mom would freak out)
> Etc.

She feels to a degree that it's Gods's way of immunizing us against the next strain of what ever.

As a side note: I was told that if I eat / drink beverages with local honey in them, my allergies would be less annoying. Well I have done that for a few years and in fact my intake of allergy med's has diminished in the spring and fall.

Food for thought....

Yep. Local bees will carry the pollen that your allergic to and your body builds a better... defense for lack of a more appropriate word to it. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2012, 12:22:15 AM »
and i'm coming down with the flu......  >:(

still better than getting that shot
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 01:46:38 AM »
your a damn fool
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2012, 07:15:10 AM »
your a damn fool
Yeah, Walker's post should be moved over to the "Laugh your ass off" section.

This level of ignorance of the facts is a spectacle to witness... White coat worship at its finest.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2012, 10:44:51 AM »
That's funny because I thought it was a good attitude adjustment. The healthcare professionals in this country take an oath 'I will keep them (their patients) from harm and injustice.'

Seems to me that passing on something that could kill them when your intention is to help them fits into the realm of 'injustice.'  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2012, 11:59:15 AM »
The only reason the flu shot is being pushed down our throats is that it is big money for Big Pharma.  Makes me sick.  I haven't had a flu shot in 22 years. [img]http://www.smileydesign.n

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2012, 03:53:33 PM »
It is FACT that the vaccines only inoculate against the anticipated "most common" forms of the flu for that season, so it is still possible for you to get sick from a different strain.  You could also pass on that different strain, despite having gotten your shot...
which is ADMITTEDLY filled with more garbage that is harmful than any benefit can outweigh.  Wanna avoid getting the flu?  Keep your immune system active and your body healthy, make sure you get all of your vitamins, minerals and such and take physical precautions.

And the very CDC.gov warns about the side effects of these vaccines, which could take up to 6 months to appear.  I would agree that taking vaccines would be great... if they didn't include all that extra garbage.  But hey! I bet you think flouride (chloramine too)  in your drinking water is great too.
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