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The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« on: January 18, 2012, 08:31:02 PM »
I can just hear the:

 :o  Oh crap.  Old Sledge has has forgotten to take his old man medicine again today and here he goes with another one of those I forgot to take my meds senile posts.  Well maybe, I can't seem to remember if I took those things this morning or not.   :)

I've mentioned in a couple of different threads that most of the women in our group will be using .22 LR weapons.  I'm sure most of you dismissed this out of hand as I would have myself in years past.  But after having to actually think about how to accomplish a whole list of objectives in preparing for a tshtf situation.  I came to the realization that I was using bias in my weapons selections.

After looking at tshtf as a big picture I came to realize that the .22 LR Semi Auto rifle was close to a perfect fit for a prepper concerned about defense of their AO.  ( That's not to say I would recommend it as a guerrilla warfare weapon.) 

These are the reasons I've arrived at this view.

It is a very inexpensive weapon system.

.22 LR in all of its variations is very cheap.  1,000 rounds can be had for under $50 making it no problem to reach bulk quantities in storage.

The round is very accurate and will do way more damage than you would think a bullet that size should.

It offers the ability to take small to medium size game.  Larger game can be taken with a head shot.

The .22 is not a loud round.  Meaning it will offer a degree of concealment because the sound of the weapon being fired will not travel as for as it will for a larger caliber. 

Due to the lighter weight and smaller size of the weapon and the ammo they are less tiring to carry and more individual rounds can be carried easily.

A .22 LR round is quite capable of killing a man if hit in the head or the heart.

In a shtf world being hit by a .22 LR round anywhere is in essence a death sentence.  Infection will set in and with out drugs and wound cleansers to combat the infection that person will either die or be disformed for the remainder of their short life.  (The same will be true for ordinary scratches so it would be prudent to consider this in your preps.)

I know some will say, "But if you haven't hit them in the head or the heart they won't be incompacitated and will probably be able to continue the fight."  In essence this is true.  In practice, not so much.  After taking a bullet to the torso of any size, unless their immediate life depends upon it or their is another strong motivating factor, the will to fight is over.  In the fight or flight equation, flight immediately gains the upper hand in that persons mind if there is any opportunity to do so.  Due to the infection factors mentioned in the previous paragraph.  Without the proper medical care which will be unavailable that person will not be back to harass your group again.

These are my thoughts on the .22 LR as a prepper defensive MBR.  If you have differing or additional thoughts on the subject please continue below.

       



 

 

     
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 08:39:41 PM »
The .22 has killed a lot of critters, and people, and will continue to do so. 5-6 people with some 10-22's and some higher cap mags can do a hell of a lot of damage.


Can you imagine 10-15 rounds of .22 hitting you all over? No, it doesn't have range, or much kinetic energy, but someone tag you with a few of em across the chest/neck, you're goin' down for the count.


That said, Sledge, go take your old man pills, you're getting too rowdy again :))

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 08:54:00 PM »
I don't know about you guys but I can raise hell on anything at 100 yards with my 10/22 and a 25 round mag.

Think about all those little stingers pissing you off while the big bore sets up his bipod and gets a bead.

the .22LR has a place. That is why I have one.  :))
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 08:56:19 PM »
If you have nothing else (like me) then hell yea.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 09:42:36 PM »
There are also some drop in .22LR conversions for 1911's and AR's.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 10:04:52 PM »
I agree 100%. If anything it's the one weakness I've really felt as far as my guns are concerned since I don't have one. With the unemployment situation I'd have a hard time justifying another gun to the wife. Most likely I'll opt for a nice like Henry lever action or this little guy. http://www.hyattgunstore.com/heckler-koch-mp5-22-22lr-carbine-25-round.html Though I can get a better deal on it than is shown.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 12:24:01 AM »
my 10/22 has 50rd mag hanging from it...............
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 11:21:33 AM »
The ruger 10/22 is on my list. I think your absolutly right though the .22lr is great round to have. as it is i have a old bot action .22lr and over 3000 rnds. Not only will it put food on the table but i have no issues using it on someone if the need arises. My old Grandad used to say that a .22 requires immediate surgery. And "if its good enough for the mob then its good enough for me". I dont care who you are a gut shot from a .22 is the end of the road for you without real surgery. I personaly feel the .22 lr is an esential platform for any prepper.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »
The ruger 10/22 is on my list. I think your absolutly right though the .22lr is great round to have. as it is i have a old bot action .22lr and over 3000 rnds. Not only will it put food on the table but i have no issues using it on someone if the need arises. My old Grandad used to say that a .22 requires immediate surgery. And "if its good enough for the mob then its good enough for me". I dont care who you are a gut shot from a .22 is the end of the road for you without real surgery. I personaly feel the .22 lr is an esential platform for any prepper.

Well said.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 11:37:57 AM »
My best friend from High School, had a uncle who lived in the Adirondacks. He used a .22LR to poach deer. When we would visit, he always had a full freezer of bambi.  :))

It's like with any bullet, it's all about shot placement.
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 11:42:55 AM »
Cool thing about a .22 lr is once that little sum bitch gets in it doesnt have the power to get out, so it kinda bounces around in whatever is hit. Any one that says a .22 aint shit hasnt seen anyone shot by one. I have a buddy that no shit has shot himself twice with a .22lr once in the foot when we were frog gigging(shooting) and the secound time he sliped and fell and took it thru the leg. The leg one damn near killed him it split the femoral art. he stuck his fingers in the holes to prevent bleeding out. He was in the hospital for about 3 weeks having all sorts of shit pumped out of his leg. .22 does alot more than people give it credit for.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 02:31:51 PM »
Don't forget that the .22 was originally released in 1887, making it one of the oldest firearm calibers still in active use around the world. Even in countries with the most strict gun control laws you can still get a .22. In WWII, the OSS used to issue High Standard pistols outfitted with suppressors to their agents.

The only problem I can possibly see is magazine cost for those of us who have such weapons, like the Henry Survival Rifle. For that reason, I still prefer the old fashion tube feeding system. Those guns are like revolvers: everything is self-contained.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 02:40:18 PM »
The .22 is still used to this day by several nations military as a highly suppressed weapon for taking out guards/dogs.


And I'm not condoning illegal activity, but I'm just sayin', it is rather simple to make things that'll quiet down a .22 pretty significantly. Knowledge isn't a crime.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 02:53:47 PM »
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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 02:57:56 PM »
Agreed, this is why I have a .22LR.   :)

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 09:16:26 PM »
my grandpa growning up in the swamp in louisiana was very poor, his dad died when he was 8 so it was up to him to feed himself, his mom,brothers and sisters. he killed alot of animals with it including many deer, he told me he would shoot them right behind the ear and it was over. and the point of me telling you this is im sure u can find alot of old folks that have done similar things.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 09:30:19 PM »
my grandpa growning up in the swamp in louisiana was very poor, his dad died when he was 8 so it was up to him to feed himself, his mom,brothers and sisters. he killed alot of animals with it including many deer, he told me he would shoot them right behind the ear and it was over. and the point of me telling you this is im sure u can find alot of old folks that have done similar things.


When my dads parents left him. all he had was a wristrocket
Eventually he got his hands on a .22
Then joined the army but that's besides the point. The point is.
Very very small projectiles have fed my father for quite a long time. The .22LR has a very near and dear spot in my heart.  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 09:45:03 PM »
not trying to change the subject but why did they leave him? and where did he live on his own?

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 09:51:27 PM »
not trying to change the subject but why did they leave him? and where did he live on his own?


Not really something that should be talked about kid.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 09:58:16 PM »
sorry to hear that man, its a good thing your dad was a tough kid. your dad ever killed a deer with a 22?

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 10:00:11 PM »
sorry to hear that man, its a good thing your dad was a tough kid. your dad ever killed a deer with a 22?

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 10:17:39 PM »
sorry to hear that man, its a good thing your dad was a tough kid. your dad ever killed a deer with a 22?

Hey bwb, Just a tip its not polite to go asking around about these issues.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 10:21:36 PM »
sorry to hear that man, its a good thing your dad was a tough kid. your dad ever killed a deer with a 22?

Hey bwb, Just a tip its not polite to go asking around about these issues.

He's still young. Like the brat that runs around the poker game inhaling 2nd hand smoke all night long.

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Re: The Mighty .22 LR As A Prepper Defensive Main Battle Rifle
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 10:25:51 PM »
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