S&W M&P40, any thoughts?

[thatGirl]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Smith & Wesson M&P40 pistol?  ThatGuy purchased two Glock 22s chambered in 40 cal for us to have guns with interchangeable mags, but the glock is too big for my hands and it bucks like a bronco.  I checked out the M&P40 which comes with different sized backstraps to adjust the size of the grip, and I loved it.  With that said, it's hard to put down $600 on a new full-framed piece when I have a Glock that's already paid for, especially when the Glock is the standard and the M&P is the ripoff...
 

[gapatriot]

Gen 4 glocks have adjustable backstraps, tell him to sell your glock to 505th and get you a gen 4. As far as muzzle flip its going to be the same.

[Kentactic]

Yeah id say get a Gen 4 for the adjustable backstrap, youll still have interchangable mags. Perhaps a G23 will fit your hands even better. Then tell ThatGuy to load you some more mild rounds for your use. I once shot another guys hand loads in a pistol competition and of course he loaded the rounds as mild as possible to be as effective as possible in the comp. These rounds still cycled the gun perfectly but were very, very reduced in muzzle flip. It was the same or less recoil then a 9mm.

[thatGirl]

Yeah, we talked about going the Gen 4 route.  As far as muzzle flip, I have no trouble as long as I can get a good grip.  I don't mind how much a gun kicks, as long as it's within my control, but I can't get a controlled grip on the Glock.  I shot the M&P40 with no problems.  I also shot the 9mm M&P, but it was a pussy cat and I like some recoil to keep me awake.  We probably won't sell the Glock, especially to 505th

Thanks!

[hjmoosejaw]

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p229.aspx

If you could find the Sig P229 pre-owned, it could be a decent price. It has the ergonomic grip. A little smaller than full size though.

 http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-sp2022.aspx

The Sig SP2022 is a full sized polymer. I think the grip may be bigger than what you want, but they come new at around $400.00

I don't know much about them G-words. I've never had the chance to shoot one. I hear they're okay though. LOL!
(Just messin around about them G-words, I know they are very good guns)


 

This is my little lady here:

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-e2.aspx

[thatGirl]

Your little lady's a good lookin' woman    I liked the Sig Sauer, but I was told that my next side arm has to be full-sized with double-stack mags.

I think TG is going to modify the grip on my Glock to try to make it work, but I'm pretty stubborn and was hoping to make a case for buying a pistol that works for me outta the box.  TG is pretty adamant that the M&P is not worth the money, but I know his biases and wanted to hear what other's thoughts are on the matter before I wave the white flag yet again.   I understand that having interchangeable mags for our weapons is a must and figured that the different sized backstraps would be the best way to accommodate TG's man hands and my small hooks- the Gen 4 could be a good option. 

[hjmoosejaw]

Sounds like some sound thinking. TG seems to be a tinkerer, so if anybody can modify the grips, he should be able to.

[Kentactic]

Im guessing you and TG both have the same internet issues being unable to view videos. But ill post it up anyways.

Women are too Stupid to Choose Their Own Gun

[thatGirl]

Thanks Kentatic, I'll be sure to make TG watch that video.  You absolutely nailed the problem.  TG is convinced that my issue with the Glock stems from terminal vaginosis, and it took us going to a shooter's den and renting an M&P40 for me to prove that my problem with the Glock is not a competence issue- I just need a smaller, ergonomic grip.  I think he's on board now, we just have to find a way to compromise.

[hjmoosejaw]

I was gonna suggest the M&P Shield, but I thought she wanted as full sized pistol. A guy at work's daughter got one and LOVES it. I've heard nothing but good about those guns. I'm considering it for a bug. (or part time CC)

[technique]

I shot Glock for 10+ years... Then the M&P series came out. I liked the grip much better than the Gen3 or earlier Glock pistols.
For me, the M&P is more ergonomic and more comfortable.

I suppose, If you like sharing calibers, get the .40. Otherwise, now would be a good time for TG to admit the error in his ways,
man up, and shoot 9mm.  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

[thatGirl]

The M&P Shield might be a good choice for my next CC, although that little Ruger .380 LCP looks like a sweetheart (I know, I know, less stopping power).  In stereotypical fashion, I currently rock a S&W .38 air weight for my CC, which I love, but I realize that 5 in the cylinder and 5 in the speed-loader might not be enough.  First, I have to figure out a full size primary though.  TG is very handy, and if anyone can successfully modify my Glock, he's the man to do it as hjmoosejaw said  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

You just brought up the other part of this debate, technique.  TG actually wants to chamber the Glocks in 9mm now, since the rounds are cheaper and abundant.  The problem is that I like the idea of 40 cal.  Although more expensive, we can reload 40 cal rounds if the shit hits the fan and we run out of 9mm.  It's not a problem to chamber the Glocks in 9mm cause that's reversible, but an M&P40 can't be re-chambered in 9mm as far as I know, so I would have to settle for the caliber pistol I buy if I go M&P.

[hjmoosejaw]

There are good and bad things said about Taurus. I've never had one. I considered their 24/7 G2. It has a bunch of bells and whistles (if you want bells and whistles). They come in all sizes and have a large capacity. (even the small ones) Different grips, locks, strike two capability, etc. Just a thought.

http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=752&category=Pistol&toggle=tp&breadcrumbseries=247

http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=247&toggle=tp

P.S. I'm not sure about the interchangeable grips. That may have been on a different model. Oh well, they still come in all sizes. Large, compact, sub compact. All in 9, 40, and 45 too.

[thatGuy]

I have given the switch to 9mm a lot of thought lately. While I have no luck reloading it myself I can get rounds and be able to go back and forth with a G22 but...

It isn't the first nor will it be the last time I've been wrong Tech and that M&P was a lot crisper than I give them credit for.

Could you get a replacement trigger that makes the take up on an M&P a little shorter?

[technique]

It ain't anywhere as cheap as it is to do on Glock, but I put an APEX trigger pack in every M&P gun I have, from the Pro, 9, and Shield. I love the APEX stuff.

I may be wrong here, but I do seem to remember someone swapping their .40 barrel out with a factory 9mm barrel, not a conversion, a factory barrel... I recall them reporting it running without any issue with M&Ps. Look into it. You know me, I run threaded barrels so I have some 9mm M&P barrels sitting around, just sayin'!

[thatGuy]

Oh you and your threaded barrels. We'll get there someday I promise!

For the life of me I don't know why you couldn't do a barrel swap on a M&P like a Glock.. damn near the same thing anyhow..

[thatGuy]

How about a Walther P99QA?

[RS762]

The walther P99 and PPQ are both excellent alternatives to the Glock and M&P series. Another great gun is the magnum research baby eagle poly frame. The new ones (the "fast action") are striker fired, double action with a de-cocker and a hell of a comfy grip.

Here's a good article on them.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/2011/02/09/handgun_reviews_magnum_researchs_baby_eagle_is_back_012611/

[RS762]

Keep in mind the new baby eagles are pretty much a p99 copy, totally different design from the originals.

[technique]

Oh you and your threaded barrels. We'll get there someday I promise!

For the life of me I don't know why you couldn't do a barrel swap on a M&P like a Glock.. damn near the same thing anyhow..

After some reading there are quite a few people running 9 barrels in their 40 M&Ps.
Technically you shouldn't do that, based on measurements. However people are doing it.

Storm lake makes a M&P conversion barrel, specific. So you can.

[mountainredneck2051]

i own 5 m&p handguns cant recommend them enough

[Outonowhere]

I carried AND SHOT a 40 M&P as my duty pistol and if it was between the two I would take my Glock hands down.  Even before I modded the frame I still liked it better.  Just personal preference, though you should also, as I am sure you already have, take into account the ability to swap mags between shooters.  If one has a Glock and the other a M&P... well you get the idea.  Also, you can look into, there are companies out there that will convert your <Gen4 to the changeable back strap.

I have shot a sig 229 and owned/shot a 226.  I love both the guns, BUT...

Some people may remember the absolute freaking ridiculous time I was having with my 226 jamming after a couple or even every single shot!  I later learned that supposedly the Sigs are designed to have +P ammo run through it and that was my issue.

I also loved my 1911 .45, but like you guys are talking bout, the ammo was just expensive.  Even more so than the .40.  So we switched to 9mm, though with the abundance of .40 and Glock 22 mags and parts out there I am seriously looking at getting one as my next gun purchase.

Just my $.02

[mountainredneck2051]

why would you want more than one caliber?

pick a caliber have everyone run it and stockpile it like crazy
and 9mm fits the bill the best for preppers

[Outonowhere]

Why?

Because while I stock up on a F***-ton of 9mm SOMEONE ELSE is stocking up on .40... A LOT...

[mountainredneck2051]

Why?

Because while I stock up on a F***-ton of 9mm SOMEONE ELSE is stocking up on .40... A LOT...

your point?