Unchained Preppers
General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: Nemo on August 06, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
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Which is it? But see below. Lets be civil on this discussion.
Nemo
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huh, i prefer the CZ75.
<grins evily> :stir:
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Well one day you will get a 1911 and know what a real gun feels like in your hand.
Nemo :boltAction:
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I've never owned a Glock. Shot them, but I don't see all the fuss. If I was going to pistol of similar concept I'd recommend what I currently own. The Walther PPQ. I've been shooting for a good while and I know a few guys using theirs in competition and doing very well. Hands down its one of the finest off the shelf pistols I've ever shot. The trigger is phenomenal. That said, I still prefer my custom Kimber Raptor II. I'm balls on accurate with it.
Folks can get in to a number of debates about caliber, precision, reset, ergonomics, but at the end of the day it's what your comfortable shooting and train with. If your a hardcore Glock fan I can't say I'll honestly knock you. It's just not my preference.
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Well, if you like Walthers, know they do make a 1911. Get one*.
Nemo
But a Colt is better, 8)
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testify Nemo :) :dancingGrenade:
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I am trying. Maybe now I can get this brouhaha going.
Nemo :baconDance:
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I've owned about 4 Walthers over the years. I'm not sure if I'd look to Walther for my 1911. My first 1911 was a Ruger. I was fairly impressed with the quality, but it lack in aesthetics. Given the choice between it and the Remington R1 I'd still go with the Ruger. I know a lot of people hate on Kimbers for the price and hype, but I've been very pleased.
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The best secondary is the one you can afford and then practice with.
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Nothing worth mentioning in firearms development in 105 years right?
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Nothing worth mentioning in firearms development in 105 years right?
That's a good point! And I agree. ;D
I think Nemo started this thread in a moment of boredom with the intent " This will be fun!" :popcorn:
He has apparently already made up his mind on which firearm he prefers. ( And I personally agree with him.)
I will say this, I've seen a lot of Glocks in use at the range by people who were meeting the Concealed Carry requirement. Never saw one with a problem and they ate some of the cheapest ammo around. I spend more time teaching students to use point and shoot techniques at close and mid distances than I do iron sight shooting for self defense. Students new to firearms tend to pick up that skill quickly with a Glock as well.
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I think Nemo started this thread in a moment of boredom with the intent " This will be fun!" :popcorn:
He has apparently already made up his mind on which firearm he prefers.
I was hoping for the bottom frame in the pic above. And any questions as to my preference see my tagline below.
Nemo :baconDance: *
dancing bacon is cool!
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TG has a point. I mean, that's why I own a Tavor. I've owned a variety of guns over the past decade and a lot typically cycle out for improved version, but when it comes to my pistol. Eh, I guess I just have a soft spot for the 1911. I'm a flawed man, but I wouldn't change it. At least I'm not a liberal.
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I mean, that's why I own a Tavor.
All you Tavor owners are the same.... :stir:
https://youtu.be/cCJan7eulbI
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Ken that is great!
So does this have to stick to just Glock and 1911 or do the other plastic fantastics count? And what about 2011s do they still count under the 1911 banner?
I have a Glock but my go to polymer framed gun would be an M&P.......but that is still behind my 9mm STI (2011). Gotta have a 1911 if just for qualls. Mine is a Springfield TRP Operator.
I tried the Tavor for a spell. Never felt even a little bad about getting rid of it. I always needed to make it a point to take it out to train with it. It was never a gun that I just went to. If I wont train with it then its not worth owning. I guess the same could be said about the 1911-Glock divide ;)
Chris
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@Nemo - I have been thinking about it.
I've fired the 9mm version of the small frame glock and the full size. smooth and never jammed on me (i only fired a couple of boxes, say about 100 rounds through them).
I've fired a 45 - for years in the US military. I didn't have any problems with it either.
I picked a CZ-75. solid manufacture, good rep, cheap, i was in Europe, std NATO round. the only thing i've ever done vis armorer type maintenance was a new barrel and springs. i've heard striker fired weapons are reliable but i'm too old fashioned to trust them. On the other hand, the hammer can't foul on a striker fired weapon - my own fault but i managed it on a range once with a 45. I tangled the hammer up in the little strap on my gloves - It was good for a laugh but range paper isn't too dangerous and rarely returns fire. :)
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So you're agreeing the 1911 is the correct answer. As do all men of intelligence and fortitude.
Nemo
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So you're agreeing the 1911 is the correct answer. As do all men of intelligence and fortitude.
Nemo
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I mean, that's why I own a Tavor.
All you Tavor owners are the same.... :stir:
https://youtu.be/cCJan7eulbI
Love it Ken. The Tavor isn't for everyone, but I'd buy it all over again over an RAR AR15 :facepalm:
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Fuckin' Nemo..
Who do you think the threat is?
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Ready to turn the Red Tide buddy?
Your whole kit was obsolete before the war that made it famous was over!
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9mm or .45?
Chili with or without beans?
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w/beans bro
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With? Without? Makes no difference to me. Cept the bean ones make me generate great volumes of noxious odoriferous farts.
Nemo
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No no no no no!!!!
You guys are missing one of the most iconic manufacturers! I'm ashamed of all of you!!
Hi Point firearms win, hands down. :fuckYeah: :fuckYeah: :fuckYeah:
As made famous by your friendly neighborhood "Gator," "This is my Glock 40, this is my problem solver right here."
https://youtu.be/pSh-XENBLRQ (https://youtu.be/pSh-XENBLRQ)
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Nothing wrong with a Hi Point. I have a matching set of a C-9 and 995. Both big, ugly but reliable as Hades with a lifetime no questions asked warranty and share magazines. You can get the pair for under $500. Probably have enough left over from that for a box of ammo.
Nemo
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Nothing wrong with a Hi Point. I have a matching set of a C-9 and 995. Both big, ugly but reliable as Hades with a lifetime no questions asked warranty and share magazines. You can get the pair for under $500. Probably have enough left over from that for a box of ammo.
Nemo
I think I've found you to be the friendliest, but most persistent troll I've ever come across, Nemo. LMAO!
I've no doubt that some Hi Points are reliable (the carbines seem to have a better reputation, anyway). However, I'm not risking my life using one of their pistols.
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I don't think he is trolling Rah, I think the guy is legit retarded.
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I think I've found you to be the friendliest, but most persistent troll I've ever come across, Nemo. LMAO!
I just try to stimulate discussion of important topics of the day.
I've no doubt that some Hi Points are reliable (the carbines seem to have a better reputation, anyway). However, I'm not risking my life using one of their pistols.
I am not a tactical elitist. As a last ditch weapon, not so much, go with a 1911. Only thing Hi Point needs is worked like a big dog. And I mean worked. Hard and alot.
As far as the video and his eval of the extended magazines he needs only open the mag lips a hair and all will be well. Not a big issue. Just a touch of love like many want/need/seek/get.
Dare you to get one and work the hail out of it. If you have an issues, mail it to Ohio and it will likely come back with a new gun built around the serial number plate.
Nemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkq7WdB-0LA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkq7WdB-0LA)