Author Topic: Sights, Light for your Handgun  (Read 1007 times)

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15213
  • Karma: +23/-0
Sights, Light for your Handgun
« on: April 07, 2017, 01:35:28 PM »
With my new purchase, a S&W M&P CORE handgun I am thinking/rethinking lights, sights, and optics.

I do have a light on my AR as I use it on coyotes at night that come a bit to close to the cabin BUT I would remove it if I was on a patrol during a SHTF scenario. I would put it back on for a CQB situation though. Wrong or right that is what I do.

But now that I own a modern day striker-fired handgun should I buy a light for it or not? With combat holsters easily being $150- to buy one for a light and one not for a light would be a $300- proposition.

Now lets talk optics for a handgun. On the range I can see using a red dot optic maybe like the Leupold Delta Point but in the field probably not. Instead maybe a Crimson Laser or buy night sights for the weapon. Maybe Trijicon or Dawson Precision? BUT, with the raised sights to accommodate the can a raised sight is needed.

This handguns primary function will be patrol and will live on my battle rattle belt however on occasion I would use it for my EDC.

Thoughts gents? 
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline CJS06

  • Committed prepper
  • *****
  • Posts: 581
  • Karma: +3/-0
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 02:28:37 PM »
John

On your AR absolutely leave your light on even for patrolling.  You need to exercise good light discipline, but there are plenty of situations when having one is worth while. Also keep your AR us unchanged as possible, be a familiar as possible with the controls so you are not changing what you are doing. Lights are not that heavy, so shedding weight for patrolling should not be an issue. If you are patrolling and come upon a situation where you would want it, putting it on then is not realistic. Chances are if its not mounted, you are not going to carry it along.

I am a big fan of lights on my handgun. On all of my "duty" guns I have Surefire X300Us. they have the primary benefit of illumination and also carry the secondary benefit of adding a little bit of heft to a polymer framed handgun. The difference in a Safariland holster with light and without is fairly incremental.  I prefer the Surefire, but also like the Streamlight TLR-1HL. It is a very durable, bright light that is a bit less expensive than the Surefire.

As far a sights I dont beleive in "night" sights. If it s light enough to identify a target then they are fairly useless. If it is dark enough to have them be effective you are shooting at a shape and not identifying your target....not good.  I like Dawson precision sights....Black black rear with Fiber Optic front.  It takes very little light for the fiber to "glow".  You will need the raised model for either over a Can or for use with an RDS if you decided to go that way.

RDSs are an interesting item.  I have tried them and have gotten away from them.....but will probably give it another go. I found that shooting an RDS is different than any other pistol you will own and I fount it difficult to transition well from RDS to non RDS pistols.  First it is different than picking up the front sight. You need to wait until the dot comes into your field of view, some even say that that find themselves moving their head around to try to pick up the dot initially.  This can make getting off a good first shot slower. Once you have the dot however follow up shots and transitions can be much faster.  The big problem I had was the difference in aiming a RDS.  With sights you have a clear front sight with "blurry" rear sight and target.  With an RDS you focus on the target and leave everything else blurry.  This is the same as shooting a dot on a rifle which is nice, but if you will be going back and forth between pistols it is something that will take getting used to.  Here is a good link to an picture Breach Bang Clear did.https://www.facebook.com/BreachBangClear/photos/a.257032267727287.54105.257009451062902/1209966372433867/?type=3
I have tons a friends that love them and others like myself that are on the fence with them. I dont know of anybody that cant stand them.  The problem is the cost to get a good quality RDS to try. Low cost RDSs are not worth it because of the beating they take on a handgun.

Avoid Lasers like the plague. I have seen more people shoot like crap destroying their fundamentals because of pistol laser.

Obviously these are just my opinions.

Chris

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15213
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 09:33:30 AM »
Some great comments CJS, thanks for taking the time to write what you did.

A question to the forum: How many of you sport a light on your EDC and why? No reply is wrong, just trying to get a percentage.
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline Jackalope

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2497
  • Karma: +11/-0
  • Free Citizen
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 11:35:57 AM »
I don't on my EDC.  However, I have one on my bedroom gun.

Offline Kbop

  • Hardcore Prepper
  • ******
  • Posts: 1824
  • Karma: +10/-0
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 08:16:33 PM »
none on mine.  I do carry light in an LED flash light, separately.

Offline CJS06

  • Committed prepper
  • *****
  • Posts: 581
  • Karma: +3/-0
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 09:12:50 PM »
Yes when I carry a Full Size (fall, winter, colder weather), but No when I carry compact (spring, summer, hot weather).

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15213
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Sights, Light for your Handgun
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2017, 11:41:31 AM »
All good stuff ladies and germs. Keep it coming.
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.