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Offline mountainredneck2051

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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2016, 02:34:32 PM »
Just a couple of factors to throw out there.
22 in my mind is not good at any task, it does however do a large variety of tasks good enough. Which is why it's so used

A buddy of mine recently took 8 hits from one point blank, including several to the head and he lived for a while before bleeding out.
My uncle had one put to his head and was shot execution style, he lived for years after that, (he was severely fucked up for life though)
My cousin shot herself in the head with the same gun, dead instantly

My point being while all 3 died, even headshots really shouldn't be trusted with the 22lr

My second point
Where I live, you can buy s&w, dpms, olympic, and bushmaster ar15's for under $600 New
Ak's cost the same 500-600 New
Mags are under 10 bucks each new for both
20rds of ammo can be had for either at $5 and some change.

The only rifles cheaper than that would be your typical deer bolt gun. $300-400minumum and then you need a scope, and at the end of the day you don't even have irons most likely.
My point being at the end of the day it's cheaper and far more  intelligent to just buy the right tool.


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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2016, 10:39:34 PM »
Weight is a significant factor. 

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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2016, 06:20:15 AM »
Agreed jojo. You need to adapt to your personal situation. I have 40+ years until I am where you are and obviously my views and priorities will change in that time and we're also in very different climates (socially and economically too.

What red neck said is a good example. $600 for and AR? Here by me gun stores stock very few and you're looking at about R20k (that's about $1300).
AKs are scarily easy and cheap to get illegally but a new, legal one is damn near impossible and costs more than my car.

I have tried to like .22 but I HAAAAAAATE them. My personal opinion is that it equates to pissing in the wind. I eventually decided that I believe the rifles only belong with competition shooters and handguns with Hollywood assassins. Even Mrsninja has come around since she started shooting with 9mm.
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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2016, 08:09:55 AM »
Not saying that the .22 is the be all and end all.

Concentrate on what tactics to intend to employ with whatever you have at hand.

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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2016, 08:37:24 AM »
thedigininja,

not knowing the laws in your country I may be sounding like a fool here but I have been called a lot worse in my lifetime than a fool  ;)

How about buying an 80% AR lower or a polymer lower you make? Would that be legal? Then as money becomes available add the bits and pieces needed to make it a complete rifle.

In the USofA you can legally make a AR (Not make for Sale without a manufacturing FFL) and there are plenty of kits out there that will help you through the build. Also I just read that 80% lower clubs are starting up around the country.

A club that folks join and built an AR from scratch under a tutelage of a teacher/coach.

Anyhow, this might be all mute if it is illegal to build a rifle in your country.   
 
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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2016, 11:44:23 AM »
Earlier in this thread the subject of "supressive fire" was mentioned.

I would like to note that supressive fire only works when allowed to be so.

Supressive fire is rarely well aimed and has been proven to be easily defeated by an individual that overcomes thier fear and concentrates on bringing aimed fire upon the enemy.

A confident marksman is worth more than a squad in a firefight.

Forget the myth of supressive fire in terms of what we prep for.

Train to the point where you conserve every round for positive impact on your enemy. My friends this is not brain surgery. Every single person on this forum with practice and training is capable of owning anything within 200m if they only apply themselves.

I know. I have trained hundreds Of troops to be capable of this with iron sights.

Just saying.

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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2016, 03:11:12 AM »
jmac, I have no idea. I'll look into it, I've never actually considered it as a possibility.
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Re: Personal view on firearms - from my insane mind
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2016, 08:47:40 AM »
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