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Offline DMCakhunter

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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2014, 08:33:40 AM »
My bushmaster varminters come with a 1-9 twist and they work just fine with 60 gr V-max's. I used to shoot lighter 45 and 50 grain bullets but the 60's hold the wind better and are almost as explosive.

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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2014, 09:13:15 AM »
Erick, you can still get 1:12" barrels from a host of reputable makers.

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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2014, 11:53:44 AM »
Yeah! 4 extra rounds in my bulk pack...  :dancingGrenade:

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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2014, 03:47:38 PM »
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oh... jesus... oh... god... why...

So, bullet weight has less than nothing to do with this except that to make a bullet heavier when you are stuck with a fixed diameter you have to make it LONGER. The longer the projectile is the more spin you need to stabilize it, think baseball vs. 'Merican football.


What TG said....

Quote from the article linked below.....

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By the way, it is bullet length, not weight, which constitutes the necessary twist rate to launch a stable bullet.


See article here on long range AR-15 shooting....

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/?p=68792/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=gzediker&utm_campaign=20140906-chronicle0906-longrangear15pt2

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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2014, 12:45:22 AM »
This is the Ammo Oracle. A compiled list of everything there is to know about the .223/5.56

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/

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Q. Will M193 be accurate in a 1:7 or 1:9 twist barrel?

It may be marginally less accurate due to the fast twist rate, particularly in 1:7 twist barrels. Unless you're trying to use these rounds for benchrest shooting, though, it shouldn't be enough to matter.

A bullet's flight is disrupted slightly as it leaves the barrel and after traveling some distance, will "settle down" into an even spiral, similar to a thrown football. The faster a bullet is spinning, the longer it takes to settle down. The most accurate twist rate for any length of bullet will be just a bit faster than what is required to stabilize it for its entire flight path (1.3 SG). But note that bullet quality plays a much bigger part in this equation. A uniform bullet will spin true; a non-uniform bullet will wobble and be inaccurate. As a general matter when shooting M193 or M855 (as opposed to match ammo) its better to err on the side of a faster twist rate. Regardless, both 1:9 and 1:7 twists seem to shoot M193 and M855 very well.

Fact: M855/SS-109 often has worse "wobble problems" because of the complex construction of the bullet. It's hard to seat the steel penetrator in the M855/SS-109 round exactly in center of the projectile. Most plants have good quality control for these rounds and spin them up in a balance test before sending them out the door but M193 and other simple cored rounds are usually more uniformly balanced.
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Re: 5.56x45 Penetrators
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2014, 01:33:26 AM »
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