Had Shots?

[Nemo]

As in Flu?  If it will help.

Nemo

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APFN_US_BIRD_FLU_TENNESSEE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-16-12-49-54

Mar 16, 12:49 PM EDT

3rd case of bird flu detected in Tennessee

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- A third commercial poultry breeding operation in Tennessee has tested positive for avian flu.

State agricultural officials on Thursday said the latest chicken breeding facility to be infected is in Lincoln County, close to a farm that was diagnosed with bird flu less than two weeks ago. Officials say the chickens at both facilities have the same strain of highly pathogenic avian influenza.

Lincoln County lies south of Nashville close to the Alabama state line. Another chicken breeding facility has been diagnosed with infected birds is in neighboring Giles County.

State officials said the chickens at all three facilities have been killed off.

Officials say the strains of bird flu that have sickened the Tennessee chickens do not pose a threat to the food supply.

[CJS06]

Nemo

I hope it helps you.  I got the flu last month and was laid up for approx a week.

Chris

[gadget99]

We get the flu shot every year.

We also have two courses of Tamiflu and one course of Relenza for each person in the house stored away.

[Nemo]

Keep in mind this is just a chicken/bird flu thing.  But a minor genetic alteration it will be an airborne pandemic virus with a 30-50% fatality rate in developed countries like the US.

In countries without the modern med services we have here the fatal rate will be more like 80+%.

Might want to think about things like that a bit more.

Nemo

[JohnyMac]

I forgot who wrote it on the forum, maybe you gadget or Erick; Anyway they fear a pandemic more than anything.

Me on the other hand...Looks like poultry may come down in price in the foreseeable future. 

[Nemo]

Good size populations for egg and meat productions are being removed?  I don't think those really much on the national bird count though.  If anything I would suspect prices of both eggs and birds will be going up.

Nemo

[gadget99]

I forgot who wrote it on the forum, maybe you gadget or Erick; Anyway they fear a pandemic more than anything.

Me on the other hand...Looks like poultry may come down in price in the foreseeable future. 

JM....

I did state this.

While there are many things that could happen that justifies our prepping. The one thing that WILL happen at some point is a Flu Pandemic.

While there are other "not but when" potentials. The one that I feel is closest to happening is an Avian Flu Pandemic.

What needs to be understood is that a pandemic while damaging in itself is a bad thing. The wider consequences of such are what makes it a SHTF thing. Think of it as a cataylist to a perfect storm. A pandemic would shut down all of the elements that keep western society going.

Cheers

[JohnyMac]

Gadget wrote, "What needs to be understood is that a pandemic while damaging in itself is a bad thing. The wider consequences of such are what makes it a SHTF thing. Think of it as a cataylist to a perfect storm. A pandemic would shut down all of the elements that keep western society going" Totally agree!

Lets look at the top SHTF events that could happen:

1) Financial collapse,
2) EMP by a foe,
3) Pandemic of (insert nastiness here), and
4) Grid stoppage other than EMP like computer hacking, bomb, etc.

If Just one of the above happens (# 1, 3, or 4) we/the world in general would survive with marginal interruption. However, add two from above to the mix we would for sure be back in the dark ages not for years but for generations.

If you also look at the list from above an EMP strike would bring at least three other events around our heads.

As I reported the other day on this site I read that the missiles that keep blowing up that N.Korea are setting off, blow up at the ~ proper height for an EMP. Gee-wize Wally, what if they fired one off each of our coasts from a container ship? And did similarly to the EU? Just think of all of the ISIS cells that are here in the USA and in the EU. The caliphate comith says JohnyMac.

 

[Kbop]

Hey JM, i would like to add one more for consideration.  civil unrest spilling over from projection against power structures into action against private citizens.  I think that has already started in many less insulated places around the world. Like France and South Africa.

If our country or other nations remain this polarized and information is unreliable and the echo chambers are soo full of propaganda...

some of the divisional groups within the US and other well educated and connected countries are going to start feeling like they are boxed into a corner.  True or not, they will act - even if only a small percentage they will act.

I'm old enough to remember the weather underground, FALN, the Hanifi Muslims..  this list is long and varied.  Even Militiagan and the worries in the 80's & 90's about white identity groups. 

it feels like we're in a boiling pot and i'm curious when or if it will boil over.  As long as the power structure is the target - the general population should be fine.  But, i'm not sure how long that will last.  the take back Birmingham movement in the UK - heck UKIP in general, BLM and DAPL in the US  of A.  let alone problems in the Levant.  I suppose we're living in interesting times.  In the 1960's in the US of A. the number of younger veterans was pretty small.  That isn't true today - there are lots of trained operators and people with trigger time slowly stewing.  it makes me wonder.

Oh well my 2 cents.

[JohnyMac]

Good addition Kbop.   

civil unrest spilling over from projection against power structures into action against private citizens.  I think that has already started in many less insulated places around the world. Like France and South Africa.