Trigger weight safety

[mariamsanford]

I am not real familiar with revolvers at all. I shoot Glock but got intrigued by a Taurus m380 ultra light revolver in .380. I had read over and over about that revolver heavy trigger on the order of 14#. Well I found a used one in a consignment shop. So when I dry fired at shop I commented ?that doesn?t seem like a heavy pull? The dealer got trigger weights tester. Four pulls indicated 4.5# or 4.45. My question- safety concern or not? I have read many times over hard pull is one positive for reholstering revolvers. I can drop the deal since I just filled 4473 and haven?t put money on it. Any help here?

[Sir John Honeybucket]

Was that 4.X pound measured from single action (hammer is already cocked) or was that double action (trigger pull pulls back and cocks the hammer,  drops the hammer)?  The single action is generally much lighter than the double action trigger pull.

[Nemo]

SA/DA pull as asked above please.

And the only thing you need worry about on rehostering is to do it safely and properly.

Watch it go in and have the thumb on the hammer (down) when it does.

4 pound single to me would be fine.

That Taurus is probably new enough to have the internal transfer bar between the hammer and pin that as long as the trigger is not touched there will be no problem.

Nemo

[JohnyMac]

Like what Sir John wrote, was the 4 1/2 -lbs using the revolver with the hammer locked back (single action) or from the hammer down and trigger pulled till the weapon fired (double action)?

[Jackalope]

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about 4 1/2 lbs. if it's single action.  Even double action, if you're accustomed to shooting Glocks.  Just remember to keep the booger hook away from the bang switch, and you'll be fine.

    On a separate note, was looking at some of the Taurus pistols that are on sale at a local gun shop.  I was surprised to see manual safeties on their G2C and G3C models, plus they have trigger safeties too.  I hadn't seen manual safeties for a while, except on 1911 derivatives, i.e., Kimber etc.  Personally, I've moved away from manual safeties on my EDC pistols.  One less thing to think about in the heat of the moment, though I know it can be overcome through training and muscle memory.

[CJS06]

In Single action a 4.5# trigger is good. If that weight is is Double action there are issues beyond the safety of the gun.  It is not the trigger pull that is the problem as many many striker fired semi autos have triggers under 5#.  The problem is how you got down to 4.5#. Trigger weight with a revolver is a direct component of the weight of the mainspring (hammer spring).  To achieve a double action that light the gun will have had to have been modified with either a very cut down (shortened) or with a very very light mainspring.  This will lead to very serious reliability issues. It is entirely possible that the hammer will not have enough power to ignite even mildly hard or inset primers. 4.5# in DA would mean a 1 or sub1# SA which is indeed a safety issue. As a carry gun this is unacceptable.

Chris

[pkveazey]

My Colt "King Cobra" double action is supposed to have a Double action pull of 12 lbs and in single action it is supposed to be about 1.5 lbs. I can't swear that it is that light because I've never measured it but I can tell you it has a hair trigger when cocked.

[CJS06]

My Colt "King Cobra" double action is supposed to have a Double action pull of 12 lbs and in single action it is supposed to be about 1.5 lbs. I can't swear that it is that light because I've never measured it but I can tell you it has a hair trigger when cocked.

Colt mechanism is a very nice albeit very complicated one that allows for the heavy double action with a super sensitive SA trigger pull. Even then lightening your DA would make your SA borderline unsafe.  The Taurus we were discussing is a knock off of the S&W mechanism.

[pkveazey]

Thanks for the info CJ. My Colt King Cobra is one of the stainless steel, 6" barrels, from the 1980's. From what I've read lately, the reissue King Cobras only have a 4" barrel and they suck compared to the originals. I was told that the King Cobras from the 1980's were supposed to be a regular assembly line gun but they actually were made in the Custom Shop. Just guessing, I'd say that they probably were made in the Custom shop because the Quality and Accuracy is super good. I used to practice with 38 Specials but I stopped using them because there was a 2 to 3 inch drop at 50 yards compared to the 357. Not only that, I love the Cannon sound when that 357 goes off. 38 Special goes BANG and the 357 goes BAH-ROOM.