Unchained Preppers
General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: Kentactic on April 26, 2012, 09:26:59 PM
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Take Down Ruger 10-22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JMZctpR7E#)
probably wouldnt have any use for the bag other then to carry it to the range but the guns sweet.
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Is that a nickle plated 10/22? If so then Mr. Yeager is on it hard, they are the shit!
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Is that a nickle plated 10/22? If so then Mr. Yeager is on it hard, they are the shit!
the reciever may be nickel plated but im pretty sure the barrel is stainless steel. and since you cant watch the video ill explain. its a video on the new 10/22 which break down into two peices extrememly easy. it makes it crazy compact and easy to fit into a back pack.
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Why not just drop in an SU16?
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I would really like to see how this sweet little carbine breaks down. I need to watch this video.
You guys dig that how and where they split the front from the back makes all the difference in the world, right?
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I would really like to see how this sweet little carbine breaks down. I need to watch this video.
You guys dig that how and where they split the front from the back makes all the difference in the world, right?
it breaks down by a quarter turn where the barrel meets the reciever. the stock and barrel all remove as one.
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Why not just drop in an SU16?
Ammo is too heavy
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What are you carrying 10K in .22LR
I'd rather have 500-1000 in 5.56
Its not heavy enough to make me want to drop down to .22 LR
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Its not heavy enough to make me want to drop down to .22 LR
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The WASR-10 is an incredibly compact weapon. It is actually SHORTER in overall length than a Red Ryder BB gun. If the weight is too much mebbeh you should drag heavy hoses like me at work. Work out or somethin'!
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PASS ON THE AR-7, I'VE HAD THEM BY HENRY, SURVIVAL ARMS AND VEN CHARTER ARMS THEY ALL SUCKED ASS, GO AND SEE A MARLIN PAPOOSE THEY OFFER SAME BREAK DOWN BETTER RIFLE AND MAGS AND WORKABLE ACTION, i HAVE ADDED A MARLIN PAPOOSE TO MY VEHICLE BOB AND 500 RND AMMO AND I LIKE THAT OPTION!
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What are you carrying 10K in .22LR
I'd rather have 500-1000 in 5.56
Its not heavy enough to make me want to drop down to .22 LR
i think your much more likely to die of starvation then of a human attacker in a rural bug out location. this assumes your bugging out because of a situation that will leave you bugged out for a prolonged period of time. more ammo on my person means more food down the road. if you need human attacker defense then add that gun in addition to a .22. but if you really only plan to carry one gun it absolutely needs to be a .22.
if im bugging out and can only grab one gun its the 10/22 no question.
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The WASR-10 is an incredibly compact weapon. It is actually SHORTER in overall length than a Red Ryder BB gun. If the weight is too much mebbeh you should drag heavy hoses like me at work. Work out or somethin'!
are you guys bugging out to meet millions of chinese that will be hitting the beach or are you guys bugging out to escape danger and survive in these scenrios where the most important gun you can think to carry is a heavy large bore rifle? carry a few thousand rounds of 7.62 around and let me know how it works out for ya.... not to mention how the rabbits and squirrels you WILL be shooting with this ultimate survival rifle will look. blowing half the meat away...
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Kenny, I love ya man. But if I have to bug out with only one firearm ( not going to happen ) its NOT going to be a .22 no matter how long I have to survive. What ever I'm carrying is going to have the Potential for any means of self defense.
Rabid squirrels/ Bear & everything in between.
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while prepping is a never ending progression of change...bugging out where your on foot and will need food is a constant scenario. i know its not the coolest thing to fantasize about carrying a .22lr into the end of times but its reality... not everything gets to be cool.
again where the hell are you guys bugging out to that you need all this fire power as priority one over life giving energy from food? you cant carry enough ammo to make the big bore rifles worth carrying alone. they are a secondary weapon in survival and a primary in self defense. you carry low amounts of ammo for a big bore for that off chance that your epic fantasies come true. if you magically dont die then throw it in the dirt and go get some damn dinner now.
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while prepping is a never ending progression of change...bugging out where your on foot and will need food is a constant scenario. i know its not the coolest thing to fantasize about carrying a .22lr into the end of times but its reality... not everything gets to be cool.
again where the hell are you guys bugging out to that you need all this fire power as priority one over life giving energy from food? you cant carry enough ammo to make the big bore rifles worth carrying alone. they are a secondary weapon in survival and a primary in self defense. you carry low amounts of ammo for a big bore for that off chance that your epic fantasies come true. if you magically dont die then throw it in the dirt and go get some damn dinner now.
Kenny I will divulge in my case an my case alone.
I am bugging out to a place where shooting small game isn't everything I have to rely on.
I got turtles, fish, gator. ( Trap setups will get them ) Deer, Bear, Hog. ( .22 ain't ganna bring it )
Yes, having 10 thousand rounds would be awesome for long term, but seriously my luck isn't the greatest and I'd rather not run up on even the littlest of black bears or the rare Florida panther with a .22 Long Rifle.
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reading this thread makes me laugh pretty hard, judging by the comments none of you have truely had to live off the land for a long time
the BEST way to bug out is a 22 rifle and something like a 6" 357magnum
but if you have to pick one gun 22lr is the only gun that will sustain you for an extended period of time
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Redneck! Hey buddy. Good to see you!
I thought maybe your girlfriend had cut your typing fingers off when she caught you fondling some other girl. Kind of a finger Bobbit. LOL!
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i just couldn't read through this whole thread so sorry if i missed something, but IMO I'd never bug out on foot without an actual primary rifle. an AR breaks in half, and also has .22lr conversion bolts readily available at most gun shops.
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Shot placement shot placement shot placement,,,, and don't get into an engagement in the first place! I'm with mountain on this, when i was a kid when i went hunting or fishing it was to put meat on the table. I have dropped dear with a .22 i don't think i would take on a black bear with it. I have shot frogs (my kind of frog giggin') the .22 is the most practical rifle you can have. When the big game is hunted out, hows that .223 or 7.62 going to work on squirrels, rabbits, rats, frog, turtle, and cats?
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Shot placement shot placement shot placement,,,, and don't get into an engagement in the first place! I'm with mountain on this, when i was a kid when i went hunting or fishing it was to put meat on the table. I have dropped dear with a .22 i don't think i would take on a black bear with it. I have shot frogs (my kind of frog giggin') the .22 is the most practical rifle you can have. When the big game is hunted out, hows that .223 or 7.62 going to work on squirrels, rabbits, rats, frog, turtle, and cats?
and also has .22lr conversion bolts readily available at most gun shops.
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GAME CHANGER...
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Its not about all the big game being hunted out. its about not being the biggest thing in forest.
And for being such awesome survivalist you sure don't mention snares traps trout lines. There are other ways to catch small game.
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I totally agree with the "not getting into an engagement in the first place." That is the best wisdom. But I would give my .22 bolt-action rifle to someone else in our group. I'd stick with my WASR-10 or Mosin-Nagant and a sidearm depending on terrain and population density. My "handout" is my Winchester Super-X 12-guage pump shotty with plenty of 00buck. That goes to my fave brother-in-law.
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Its not about all the big game being hunted out. its about not being the biggest thing in forest.
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your in fucking florida, pigs is the deadliest thing you got out there
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Its not about all the big game being hunted out. its about not being the biggest thing in forest.
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your in fucking florida, pigs is the deadliest thing you got out there
damn... you gotta be serious to unleash the quad-palm....
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Its not about all the big game being hunted out. its about not being the biggest thing in forest.
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your in fucking florida, pigs is the deadliest thing you got out there
Not so. We've got those mean ass, red eyed, man eating rabbits too! LOL!
http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=1068.msg11003#msg11003 (http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=1068.msg11003#msg11003)
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1. Fuck you sledge ( Sarcasm and joke voice on )
2. Redneck, Nola
I would rather not get mauled by a pissed off hog while plinking away at it with a .22 hoping for penetration on something vital, just because I stumbled into the wrong section of the woods.
Thank you for proving my point.
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Its not about all the big game being hunted out. its about not being the biggest thing in forest.
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your in fucking florida, pigs is the deadliest thing you got out there
Not so. We've got those mean ass, red eyed, man eating rabbits too! LOL!
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....And don't forget about skunk-apes.
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this thread has shown me how clueless some of our users are....
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this thread has shown me how clueless some of our users are....
Before I jump into an angry response. Would you please elaborate on what you mean?
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I noticed the negative karma addition...I feed on it.
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this thread has shown me how clueless some of our users are....
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Wow! What a cool little popcorn eating and soda drinking guy.
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outside of this Florida wildlife argument, I'm still waiting on someone to respond to the AR15's ability to break in half, AND convert to .22lr. still no response though...
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outside of this Florida wildlife argument, I'm still waiting on someone to respond to the AR15's ability to break in half, AND convert to .22lr. still no response though...
Yes nola we all know. .22 LR conversion.
My argument still sticks even under this circumstance. Something big enough to take large game or man for self defense at all times.
There is a reason when I go squirrel hunting I carry 12 gauge with some bird shot.
Because a pocket away there is something bigger.
Look guys I understand how awesome .22 is, yes its great its an awesome survival round for hunting Small game and blah, dee blah dee blah.
The discussion is, Bug out bag gun. Right?
Well, My opinion is.
Carry something that can at the bare minimum deter a threat to you. Hopping into the back of a truck before getting ravaged by a hog or climbing a tree before becoming bear shit. Isn't always going to work & stopping power is needed IMO at all times.
I can tag a steel plate all day long with my 10/22 sure, turn it into a Frisbee and launch it at my face. See what happens. Circumstances change really quick.
.22 just doesn't do it for me.
I'm sorry guys hate argue, bitch all you want. I just can't do it.
If I had to have one firearm, I promise you it WILL NOT be a .22 long rifle.
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How 'bout y'all split the difference and settle for a 9mm carbine?
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Wow! What a cool little popcorn eating and soda drinking guy.
I'm with you sledge. I like that little popcorn eating guy.
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Wow! What a cool little popcorn eating and soda drinking guy.
I'm with you sledge. I like that little popcorn eating guy.
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just what good would a 9mm carbine do against a bear?
lets not forget we are talking about BOB guns,
personally i'm buggin out with a 357 revolver and a 22lr
were talking bugging out, as in you will not have a resupply you can take an ak or even an ar and have 500-600 rds
for the same weight you can carry 2000 fucking rds of 22lr
and lets not forget you will not get much food if you shoot a squirrel with a 5.56
for me its all about weight to round count/use ratio
rifle cartridges are heavy as fuck and have very limited use in feeding yourself
i been trappin all my life but i still eat awful good on the squirrels and such i shoot as i walk around checking my traps
yall play too much on your fears lions hogs and bears oh my!
you know what the odds are on you ever even seeing a bear much less being attacked by one?
well its a hell of a lot lower than your odds of seeing easy game that your rifles would blow up or simply run out of ammo in a month or two
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Thanks special-k!
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A big bore rifle sounds good at home warm in your office chair... but it sounds like shit sitting in the woods. it will have little use. putting all your eggs in the bear attack basket is silly. thats like reinforcing your boat incase a whale jumps and lands on it and leaving no more weight space left for food. theres a maximum capacity so unless you plan to sink you plan to starve instead. but atleast incase a whale lands on you while your starving to death you wont get put out of your misery.
@ Nola a .22 conversion AR seems just fine aslong as you dont plan to bring 2 AR's, one in .22 and one in 5.56 or anything like that.
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the conversion thing is ok but there is no point to it
5.56 wont stop a bear, and it will explode small game
so whats its use? deer, but the 22lr does fine on that anyways
all your doing is weighing you the fuck down with no added benefit
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I'm sorry, but limiting yourself strictly to a .22lr if it is prudent that you bug out is retarded. Carry both a defensive capable primary, and a small game .22 if you really need it. Either a .22 that breaks down or a pistol and spare ammo for both in your pack or jammed in mags. If you can't easily hump 55-65lbs of gear, you're over weight and out of shape and it would behoove you to add a physical conditioning program to your prepping regime. Don't limit your system due to a lack in physical capability, change your physical capability to properly compliment a squared away system. It's like a shitty carpenter blaming the tools, or a driver blaming the vehicle.
I do cardio and weight training 4-5 days a week with an armor carrier stuffed with 75lbs of barbell weights, if you're not a complete pile of shit or your body will not allow, I suggest you all do something similar. Physical capability and endurance will decide whether you live or die, and it won't matter how many rabbits you can score with your .22lr.
i fucking give up on you people
good luck with all your fucking wilderness survival knowledge based on ideas and interwebz
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Agree with redneck, his original post.
When I was a kid, times were pretty tough. No running water, outhouse, kerosene lamps. We ate a lot of beans, tortillas, and eggs. What we did get was rabbit, turkey, grouse, and the occasional deer. We did a lot of spotlighting and used a .22 shot from inside the cab of our truck to muffle the shot. It was our primary meat getting gun. My grandpa had a 7mm and a couple of boxes of shells he kept for elk that wandered into the alfalfa field in the summer but everything else was taken with a Winchester 62a.
We lived out in the sticks for years and never had a problem with anything but coyotes and the occasional mountain lion. No wild boar in sw Colorado.
I've been under theconsideration that a good BOB gun would be a ruger standard, extra Mag's and 550 round box. Granted, I view a BOB as what it is meant for, sustainment of life for 1-3 days en route to either a BOL or home.
Every person has to make the decision on what the percieved threats to their life and liberty will be. A desert dwelling nomad will have different needs that a Atlanta based yuppies. Different threats require different tools. Where I live, there are not a lot of large predators, so the choice for me is based on food gathering with a lower emphasis on fighting off rabid wolverines.the ability to stay extremely light is a large concern due to the need to carry large amounts of water. I know the effectiveness of the round in gathering food and I will not turn my nose up at it.
That being said, the first gun I grab when I travel is a glock 17 and 100 rounds. My main concern is self defence in an urban environment, concealability, and weight. Not the ability to engage in a prolonged gunfight, but to defend my ass as I beat feet out of whatever situation I may find myself in.
Our plan is to grab our AR'S and BOB's as we run out the door if civil unrest is happening. Once again, different scenario, with a different tool. I know someone will say, "but doppleganger, what if something happens while you're not at home and don't have your MBR. " Well then, I probably deserve to be shot for not paying enough attention to the socio-political situation in my area AO to know the level of unrest.
I think some good reccomended reading is ferfals blot about his experiences with the economic collapse ir Argentina. Or "self defense, Israeli style" a paladin press book written by an Israeli citizen. Well thought out arguments and opinions in both places.
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Good points dopple [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co I can say this about the whole descussion why bug out? I understand some people need to, but damn i would rather die defending what is mine and my families than abandon it and all my supplies and die running.
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Two words. RED DAWN. Everyone thinks that it's easy to just run out to thewoods like they see on Tv. It's macho bullshit. Living in the sticks is hard during good times. I personally am not some Bush ape with braided pig tails and a mora knife hanging around my neck who plans on tromping around the woods barefoot starting bow drill fires. Ilearned that wheni was Ianthe scouts as a kid. They took us on an unannounced overnighter with nothing but what we had in our pockets and an orange. (I still don't understand the orange.) I tried making a lean to with a throw away plastic ponchos and lining the ground with pineneedles. I would have built a brush shelter but the Older scouts snagged up all the good resources. I spent the night shivering until myback hurt burning everything I could find just to stay warm till the morning.
I view a bugout scenario going about the same way. Limited resources being horded or fought over by multiple groups and the weakest won't. Make it. What little resources thereare will be taxed by the large amounts of people using them up with no conservation. Imagine entire forests clearcut and burned like what happened in Russia during the cold war. I think the game would be hunted out or scared away leaving little to feed yourself on.
I've spent time since then overnight in the woods on bugout training, it's never comfortable. But I do see it as anneccesary skill to have. I don't view it as an endgame. I view it as a transitionary skill at the most. Like I said. Getting home or moving from home to a secondary location. In either case, the first priority is not needing to Bush ape it, but to get from a to b as quickly, and safely as possible with the BOB being the insurance card you use when shit really goes sideways.
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I think the whole bug out plan is based off of individule situation. Me personally, Wife, small child one on the way. I am almost required to bug in and hold what i have. Just my situation. But i could see why NOLA would want to Bug out. And JMc has his own plan of action to leave his area and go to a preplanned BOL. Each person has to asess their situation and plan and pack accordingly. I personally love the .22 and all the wonderfull things that can be done with it. And i cant see the harm in packing out with a primary battle rifle with 500 rnds and having a little folder .22 with another 1000rnds squireled away in a BOB. We each have our own needs for Bugging out or bugging in. And if .22 meets those needs then .22 rulz. As for me the .22 is not only being preped as a method of food gathering but also as a potential barter item.
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Two words. RED DAWN. Everyone thinks that it's easy to just run out to thewoods like they see on Tv. It's macho bullshit. Living in the sticks is hard during good times. I personally am not some Bush ape with braided pig tails and a mora knife hanging around my neck who plans on tromping around the woods barefoot starting bow drill fires. Ilearned that wheni was Ianthe scouts as a kid. They took us on an unannounced overnighter with nothing but what we had in our pockets and an orange. (I still don't understand the orange.) I tried making a lean to with a throw away plastic ponchos and lining the ground with pineneedles. I would have built a brush shelter but the Older scouts snagged up all the good resources. I spent the night shivering until myback hurt burning everything I could find just to stay warm till the morning.
I view a bugout scenario going about the same way. Limited resources being horded or fought over by multiple groups and the weakest won't. Make it. What little resources thereare will be taxed by the large amounts of people using them up with no conservation. Imagine entire forests clearcut and burned like what happened in Russia during the cold war. I think the game would be hunted out or scared away leaving little to feed yourself on.
I've spent time since then overnight in the woods on bugout training, it's never comfortable. But I do see it as anneccesary skill to have. I don't view it as an endgame. I view it as a transitionary skill at the most. Like I said. Getting home or moving from home to a secondary location. In either case, the first priority is not needing to Bush ape it, but to get from a to b as quickly, and safely as possible with the BOB being the insurance card you use when shit really goes sideways.
i can see your point entirely, but I must remind you that not everyone would be faced with such a difficult experience. for example, as I've talked about many times around the forum, I have a location on private land, a well, a rather large fish pond, tractors, and a house that looks like it should be on the cover of Southern Living magazine. my true test, if it ever actually comes to fruition, will be TRAVELING between my current residence, and my BOL. hence the reason I always advocate getting out early while it's still easy to travel.
so my only point is that it's a bit short sighted to assume that everyone will be living a bushcraft lifestyle if they bug out. it all depends on what resources they have available to them. If someone just bugs out "aimlessly" and just heads for "the woods" (lol) then yea, I agree with your viewpoint 100%. rest assured that if I wasn't lucky enough to have private land to squat on, I'd most likely just stay put here in the good ol' murder city. so just for future reference, when I personally talk about my bug out plan, that entire plan revolves around trekking from point A to point B. once I arrive at point B (if I'm so fortunate) then I'll be pretty much made in the shade.
EDIT: I should also add that whether or not you're lucky enough to have a BOL as cozy as mine, it's still wise to prep for the possibility of going all Red Dawn boyscout bushcraft lol. for example, whether or not I'm able to make it to my BOL, I still have to consider what is the best "bug out weapon" because even if I DO make it to my destination, if we're talking about a serious full on collapse here, it's not like guns, ammo, etc... would be readily available, so I still have to approach the issue as if I were planning for the worst. Whether I'm sleeping on a pile of pinestraw under a lean-to or in a king size bed, the world outside is still WROL, and I'll still need the same tools and accommodations.
getting back to the topic of the thread, this is why I push so hard for the AR platform, because it truly is the best all-around weapon once you consider the bolt conversion. it takes care of both a good solid defensive weapon that's proven in combat, and with the swap of 1 part taking a total of a few seconds, you can take small game and not destroy the meat. anyway, I'll stop harping on it. everyone has heard me out by now, lol.
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ONCE AGAIN, SOME FOLKS NEED TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH? IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, NOT SOMEONE ELSE? I HAVE WHAT I NEED AND WILL USE IT, I SAY YOU ALL SHOULD DO SAME?
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well i think this is the first time anyone's left with two middle fingers in the air... take it easy allshall..? ???
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I carry a 505 Gibbs in my bug out bag because there are polar bears on the same continent as me and I'm not one to be out gunned. Sure the primary source of game in my local is squirrels and rabbits but what if I bump into a polar bear that is 2000 miles off his bearing?
You are all fools for thinking that shot placement is key... fools I tell you!
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I carry a 505 Gibbs in my bug out bag because there are polar bears on the same continent as me and I'm not one to be out gunned. Sure the primary source of game in my local is squirrels and rabbits but what if I bump into a polar bear that is 2000 miles off his bearing?
You are all fools for thinking that shot placement is key... fools I tell you!
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I carry a 505 Gibbs in my bug out bag because there are polar bears on the same continent as me and I'm not one to be out gunned. Sure the primary source of game in my local is squirrels and rabbits but what if I bump into a polar bear that is 2000 miles off his bearing?
You are all fools for thinking that shot placement is key... fools I tell you!
lol yeah i sense the sarcasm and concour [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Well here we go....I would carry my 10/22 in a troy aluminum stock with a 42mm trijicon tritium\fiber optic site as well as my 2nd generation 0-6x nightvision scope and 20 ruger 25 round mags and four varieties of rounds to total 5000 rnds. The wife and I would both carry our Walter p22's as well.
I hate to leave my SIG piston ARs behind but the scenario isn't combat. I promise a bad day for anyone or anything that my site lands on with my 10/22.
I also thought about packing my keltech sub2000 in glock 9mm with six 33 rnd glock 18 mags and our glock 26's with 2000 rounds.
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Well here we go....I would carry my 10/22 in a troy aluminum stock with a 42mm trijicon tritium\fiber optic site as well as my 2nd generation 0-6x nightvision scope and 20 ruger 25 round mags and four varieties of rounds to total 5000 rnds. The wife and I would both carry our Walter p22's as well.
I hate to leave my SIG piston ARs behind but the scenario isn't combat. I promise a bad day for anyone or anything that my site lands on with my 10/22.
I also thought about packing my keltech sub2000 in glock 9mm with six 33 rnd glock 18 mags and our glock 26's with 2000 rounds.
Dude i would carry my 3 keltec sub2000's with me with my 6 100 round beta c mags and 10 33 round mags. I keep one as my primary one on my back and I have one folded that will stay in my bag. Beyond the guns and extra mags I carry 3000 round of ammo all 9mm nato not that pussy civilian shit. I have duel glock 17's one on each hip with 2 extra 17 round mags one each side. I have a Glock 19 in my pack as a back up, and a Glock 26 in an ankle holster as a back up back up. All of this is in addition to my black hawk down plate carrier with 3a level plates. So I think im good to go!!!! On my primary i have a eotech 550 which is night vision compatable and im rocking a pvs-15 night vision set up. Yes i mean pvs-15 you civies cant get them yet!!!!! And its not just me but my whole team is running this set up, we do have a really large group to protect!!! But jarhead my compliments on your set up brother keep working at it!! Stay frosty brother!!
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Dude i would carry my 3 keltec sub2000's with me with my 6 100 round beta c mags and 10 33 round mags. I keep one as my primary one on my back and I have one folded that will stay in my bag. Beyond the guns and extra mags I carry 3000 round of ammo all 9mm nato not that pussy civilian shit. I have duel glock 17's one on each hip with 2 extra 17 round mags one each side. I have a Glock 19 in my pack as a back up, and a Glock 26 in an ankle holster as a back up back up. All of this is in addition to my black hawk down plate carrier with 3a level plates. So I think im good to go!!!! On my primary i have a eotech 550 which is night vision compatable and im rocking a pvs-15 night vision set up. Yes i mean pvs-15 you civies cant get them yet!!!!! And its not just me but my whole team is running this set up, we do have a really large group to protect!!! But jarhead my compliments on your set up brother keep working at it!! Stay frosty brother!!
You'll need a trailer to carry all that crap. Good luck......
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You'll need a trailer to carry all that crap. Good luck......
HA! I love it man, you're going to fit right in here. Welcome to the forum Jarhead and thanks from making my morning.
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Jarhead just 5k rounds of .22lr by itself is 40lbs, Where will you be hiking so i know where i can get some free ammo? lol i hope your kidding... CrestedGecko45 i sense some sarcasm so i really hope your joking because youll collapse at the end of your driveway with all that crap lol..
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doomed is the man who humps more gear than knowledge
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I see no problem with carrying the 22 in the BOB. I would also have other firearms though. If I have to bug out, I will be taking my family and they will all be carrying something and each will be carrying a weapon. As we go and scenarios change, we will adjust accordingly. Starting out, I would rather have too much than not enough. If it gets to be too much, we will lighten the loads as we go. Once all of our supplies dwindle and we have narrowed everything down to bare necessities, well, we'll still have our firearms and TacOps change.
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Raging Judge Magnum :))
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I smell yet ANOTHER Ruger recall.
We've had 3 of these take-downs returned already.
Apparently they shoot all over the place, can't even get the things on paper with no consistency as far as grouping is concerned.
Save your money boys.
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I smell yet ANOTHER Ruger recall.
We've had 3 of these take-downs returned already.
Apparently they shoot all over the place, can't even get the things on paper with no consistency as far as grouping is concerned.
Save your money boys.
You work at a gun shop im assuming.
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Ruger 10/22 Takedown Range Report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek2qgIxemy4#ws)
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The video shows fairly consistent grouping, nothing like what customers have been complaining about. Maybe they are exaggerating, maybe we got a bad batch.
Won't know for sure until i get to shoot one.
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I have recently had my brain on a 30 carbine M1 & a ruger blackhawk in 30 carbine. I think that combo would be pretty B/A
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I like me a Marlin 60 but a little Ruger MK2 pistol would be enough for small game. Just be sure that you are very accurate with it before you start hunting small game with a pistol.