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Offline Kobalt

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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Screw all that pick up an Old 870 Wingmaster for like 300-450
No spank You.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2011, 08:22:26 PM »
Quote from: TheSpiritofAdventure on September 01, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Screw all that pick up an Old 870 Wingmaster for like 300-450
No spank You.

Well, then carry your wobbly, clunky, crap. I'll carry the smoothest shotgun on earth.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2011, 08:33:57 PM »
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: TheSpiritofAdventure on September 01, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Screw all that pick up an Old 870 Wingmaster for like 300-450

No spank You.


Well, then carry your wobbly, clunky, crap. I'll carry the smoothest shotgun on earth.


says one observer*

in my experience with 870's the slide can get very sticky trying to extract the spent cases. some times to the point where you have to stop what your doing and give it all youve got to get that slide to move. it happens with cheap ammo alot... and to back up my claim with some referances of others heres one of many videos reporting the same issue... like the video says... the guns aint what they use to be...remmingtons quality is down for sure. so an older version 870 might be just fine.

 

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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2011, 08:42:39 PM »
Quote from: Kentactic on September 01, 2011, 08:33:57 PM


says one observer*

in my experience with 870's the slide can get very sticky trying to extract the spent cases. some times to the point where you have to stop what your doing and give it all youve got to get that slide to move. it happens with cheap ammo alot... and to back up my claim with some referances of others heres one of many videos reporting the same issue... like the video says... the guns aint what they use to be...remmingtons quality is down for sure. so an older version 870 might be just fine.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWloCGfaUs


I've had that problem but only with the cheapest BS shells I could find. never had it happen with any buckshot. but you are absolutely right though... I've heard of sticking some fine steel wool onto a bore brush, sticking the cleaning rod into a power drill and going to town on the chamber. never done it though.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2011, 09:00:12 PM »
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: TheSpiritofAdventure on September 01, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Screw all that pick up an Old 870 Wingmaster for like 300-450
No spank You.

Well, then carry your wobbly, clunky, crap. I'll carry the smoothest shotgun on earth.

Cool beans man, Rember I don't really care for shot guns. Im a ak guy.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2011, 10:45:57 PM »
If I may quote myself....

I did say " Wingmaster " didn't I?

When is the last time they made a Wingmaster?

I have put over 1K in the cheapest ammo you can get. IN ONE DAY!
And it was a non issue.

As for claiming to be an AK guy to shrug off the use of 12 gauge is completely ignorant. & I think that you should expand your  mind a little bit. It may save your life.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2011, 12:15:22 AM »
I am with sledge.. I love the power of a 12g but I hate the recoil. Get yourself a 870 express all other shotguns are just attempting to be a Remington.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2011, 01:59:27 AM »
Quote from: thatguy on September 02, 2011, 12:15:22 AM
I am with sledge.. I love the power of a 12g but I hate the recoil. Get yourself a 870 express all other shotguns are just attempting to be a Remington.

I just don't think the expresses have the quality of old wingmasters

They only way I would get another shotgun ( that isn't a gift )
would be like a supermag or something of that nature. Something that would allow me to fire 3 & 1/2 inch
this way it just expands my ammo availability.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2011, 11:16:06 AM »
Quote from: Reaver on September 01, 2011, 10:45:57 PM
If I may quote myself....

I did say " Wingmaster " didn't I?

When is the last time they made a Wingmaster?

I have put over 1K in the cheapest ammo you can get. IN ONE DAY!
And it was a non issue.

As for claiming to be an AK guy to shrug off the use of 12 gauge is completely ignorant. & I think that you should expand your  mind a little bit. It may save your life.


Not shrugging of the 12 gauge.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2011, 03:36:36 PM »
I like my mossy 12 g. But its a field rifle. meaning it has a longer barrel and a nasty reach. its hard to take it to the range, it blows holes in targets even at 25 yards. But I dont really ever see myself using it for HD. I would go to my Tuarus revolver or AK. My wife is too small for the mossy, so we prefer the others. been thinking about cutting it down to legal for about 40 bucks. But other than that, I have no use for it. im no bird hunter. it is a fun piece of machinery though.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2011, 03:50:16 PM »
Can i have it?
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2011, 05:43:58 PM »
Lol. Idk, if i put it out there for sale, then Ill hit you up.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2011, 06:08:42 PM »
Haha...hey,you never know til ya ask!
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2011, 03:04:21 PM »
Hello all, RON L here

Hm,m, Yes, I have to agree witthe weight/Weight supplied a 12GA should be no issue to handle! I see 20 Ga as a Good round as well, but the varied amount of low Brass 12Ga make 20 gage less then needed in my opuinion! I will alos agree that a single shot, while a nice hunting item, for some,, for Home Defence, I wee a Pump or Semi-Auto as Preferable with the Pump bing better for many! I see a 12Ga or any shot gun as sort of a "Swiss Army Knife" Of Fireams with Slugs and Buckshot, a real stopped and good fot heavy game and Self Defence and a swop of a ligher shot and sometimes barrel and your ready for light game or birds? Hard to beat i many other firearms selected! Lots to consider, and if it were me, Find a Pal, someone ya trust who owns a 12 and say I'll buy the shells lets try your, Betting you will be out the door to a Fav place to shoot before ya know what hit ya?
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2011, 07:50:02 PM »
Shotguns are very versatile weapons. Go grab one at your local pawn shop!
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2011, 10:08:03 PM »
Quote from: TheSpiritofAdventure on September 01, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
5ft 10in 205 pounds. And this is not about single shot it is about which pump I should chose.

I am 6'2 240lb and my mossberg 590 beats the shit out of me. I am going to upgrade my stock to a shock absorbing one the first chance i get. I personally like 20ga but you may want to look at the rem model 870 12 ga first befor making a decision. he police depts have trained all sizes and body types on that platform with a fair amount of success. Good hunting
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2011, 07:21:58 PM »
12 gauge is an all around great shell. So many different types of ammo, so many uses, you should have TWO 12ga shotguns ;D
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2011, 03:06:52 PM »
I own a Remington 870 express magnum and it's my hunting shotgun however my wife loves her mossberg 500 tactical persuader that's been modified slightly with a fore grip, she's about 5'4, not heavy at all and the first day she had it she put 125 shells through it.
The point is it doesn't matter how big or small you are because you can change things about a shotgun to make it friendlier to you such as a butt pad, low recoil shells, and an assortment of stocks to choose from.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2011, 06:27:56 PM »
A single shot shotgun is fine for home defense just watch this video by one of the coolest guys ever



and to quote Travis Haley "I dont use a pump to scare some body i use a pump to shoot some body"  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or 
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2011, 08:29:06 PM »
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All Good Points Folk??
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2011, 08:21:20 AM »
Hello all, RON L here


Al Good Points made here folks? I agre with Sledge and Treadonmenot, as If you pick a workable design, REMY, MOSSY what ever is not as Important as the right shell selection so that you can handle the recoil and pattern? I see it as a "Swiss Army Knife" of Firearms and while Yes, I like my AK, AR and others, I see the shotgun as having so many abilities, so easy to obtain, ammo will always be found no matter where ya are? Lots going for it and you can test different ammo to see what works for you performance wise as well as recoil and other factors? I also apluade the idea of buying used? I've sen many an Older shotgun languishing in a pawn shop or used rack of a Gun shop and can be had for 1/3RD what a New one would cost and layaway makes it even more possible!! I'd Prefer a Benilli, but I have an Old Remy Express? Go wit what ya have or can get and can affoard? Not a deal if you can't spare the cash for it?
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2011, 11:34:39 PM »
 mossburg 590 is a awsome gun love mine 2 death [img]http://bestsmileys.com/ar
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2011, 11:43:30 PM »
Since it fits in with this thread I might as well post it.  Just bought a winchester defender new-in-the-box for 300 bucks (321 after tax).  What I like about it is the very spongy rubber recoil pad and 2 places designed to put sling swivels on.  The piece itself is all black, 18" barrel, and holds 5 + 1 shells of 12-guage.  Can't wait to take it to the range next weekend... [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2011, 12:42:55 PM »
Only problem with a 20ga is finding decent defensive ammo. It is hard to come by. If your over 200pd you can run a 12ga. When women would still talk to me I has a gf who could easily fire .OOO buck from my M1 and she went about 105 dripping wet.
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Re: Do I realy need a 12 gauge?
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