CQB Training Takeaways - Quick Thoughts and Lessons Learned

[patriotman]

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2019/11/cqb-training-takeaways-quick-thoughts-and-lessons-learned/

Just some quick thoughts from the class that Johnny and I took.

[Jackalope]

   Interesting, detailed analysis Patriotman.  I think I'll avoid situations where CQB is necessary.  For long term survival, in a SHTF situation, lying low and out of sight would drastically improve your chances.  I would think that laying siege long term would be preferable to breaching and clearing a structure. 

    What about the use of distractions or force multipliers, like smoke, tear gas, and flash bang grenades?  I guess if I was forced into a CQB situation, I would be looking for a way to improve my chance of success.  Anyways, thanks for report!

[mechmedic]

Excellent write up. That class is definitely on my list of classes to take from NC Scout. That and his scouting and recon class.

[patriotman]

Mech, i highly recommend both!

Jackalope, that would be the better idea. We discussed those items, and if you have access to CS or flash bangs go for it. Or if the building is not essential, just set fire to it and wait.

[CJS06]

patriotman

Good write up.  Thank you, it was very well thought out.  As you said, there better be a damn good reason to be clearing a structure, otherwise you should most likely be exercising some other options.

I leave on Wed for a LE DMR/SPR class next weekend in FLA.  I hope I can put something as concise and well thought out together.

Chris

[patriotman]

Thanks Chris. That sounds like a fun course! Being that long distance ranges are rare here, I definitely need to do some traveling for a DMR course. And I am quite confident in your ability to translate your vast knowledge and experience into a useful write up because you do it all the time on the forums. Safe travels!

[JohnyMac]

As you all have noted, Patriotman did an outstanding job describing the class this past weekend.

There was two parts of the class one was being the aggressor ala CQB in clearing a house the other was the defender. The ones being raided.

The force-multiplier in being in a defensive position was being forewarned of a potential raid. You accomplish this through early warning systems like, a dog, a Dakota IR setup, trip wires that fire off a cartridge or flare, and even wires strung with empty cans.

Have a plan determined ahead of time on how you and your charges would egress. Do not wait around...Leave at the first hint of a raid. If you are caught off guard do a mag dump at the raiding team and then vamous.   

Using the airsoft was a nice middle ground from using live ammo to just running an empty firearm or stick. Tough keeping them charged in freezing temps though \"/

[Erick]

I've been missing a lot of specialized classes as of late.. I do a lot of ARM but beyond that not all that much..
I will try to cocordinate my future travels with some of these classes.

[Erick]

1)There was two parts of the class one was being the aggressor ala CQB in clearing a house the other was the defender. The ones being raided.

2)The force-multiplier in being in a defensive position was being forewarned of a potential raid. You accomplish this through early warning systems like, a dog, a Dakota IR setup, trip wires that fire off a cartridge or flare, and even wires strung with empty cans.

1) This!!!! the main interest I have in CQB is in order to defend better .. I am sure many other are in the same boat.
2) A prewarned victim of a raid can take a frightful toll of even the best entry Entry teams. This is key to make confiscations expend too much personnel to be effective.

[JohnyMac]

Amen Erick!

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