Independent State Militia's

[JohnyMac]

I was searching the web trying to find any laws concerning the ability of a independent state formed militia, being able to legally cross state lines when I ran across this <a href="http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/list-of-u-s-militia-groups/">link</a>. The link shows militia's around the country by state.

AS of this writing I have not been able to find and info on this subject. However, my thought would be that unless a out of state militia wasn't invited by the resident militia it would be illegal or an act of war on that state.

A scenario might be:
A state (X) started to confiscate weapons (s) deemed illegal by a recently passed law. A Militia in a neighboring state (Y), wishes to send members to support X states citizens who's are being targeted by the confiscation. Would this be legal or would it be considered an act of war not unlike (IMO) Russian Troops going into Crimea.

Probably over thinking things 
 

[Kentactic]

Its a good question Jmac. The CA militia seems to think its illegal to leave CA acting as a unit. Not much use in joining a force that isn't mobile in my opinion. Otherwise id have joined CA militia already. Were better off building solid 4-6 man teams with close friends.

[rah45]

I think 4-6 man teams, close friends, should probably be the backbone of any militia to begin with. If I was a commander of a platoon - size militia with at least 5 such teams, I'd want them all to be best buds. They'll work together much better and be much more likely to stay with the unit as a whole. I would think....

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[JohnyMac]

Mmmmm Rah, I would propose what you wrote: One, 3-4 person team (4 being optimal) with a slight change. That team would be your core group. 

With that core group; Lets call them team leaders, you then build 4 other teams of 3-4 folks with your buddies AKA Team Leaders heading up each of those teams.   

Original  Team of 4
X X X X

Four new teams

   X       X       X      X
YYYY  YYYY  YYYY YYYY

Now you have a nice manageable platoon with four teams or squads.

In theory, you could send the four Team Leaders to school, ala Velocity or Mosby or ? and when they come back from class they train their teams. Competition could also be pushed between teams to heighten everyone's skills.

Now of course once the four squads are at 90%+ readiness you could then continue and do the following:

                 X                                        X                                                  X                                      X
   Y        Y         Y          Y        Y        Y         Y          Y       Y        Y         Y          Y         Y          Y       Y          Y         
ZZZZ  ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ  ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ  ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ  ZZZZ  ZZZZ   ZZZZ   ZZZZ

Now you have a Militia Company.

Add a Company Captain and his squad that supports the whole Company, (Supplies, Communication, Intel, Captain) you have 88 or so folks.

With all of this gibberish that I have written, the biggest challenge is getting three other friends with a similar desire and a few bucks to train, to start the local militia. Remember that there is the initial training courses. Then the training to become proficient enough to train others who have the time and desire to train.

Man O' man, it is like a pyramid scheme.   

I suspect it would take 6-10 months of the core group getting up to speed. Then another 6-10 months of each Team Leader to recruit and get his team up to speed. So a platoon in 12-20 months. 

Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day and the men who make up the teams will be volunteers not 24/7 military recruits. Life will interplay with the core groups plans... That is until SHTF happens. 

It is truly to bad that many of us are separated by so many miles.

[CJS06]

Johhny Mac

Today's "shrinking" world is a double edged sword.  I have been able take some fantastic training courses in FLA, IN, OH, WY, OR and ME.  I have developed great friendships and respect for a strong group that I stay in contact with on a regular basis. We travel and shoot together at various training opportunities whenever possible. A tight group of 4-6 has become a group that would be one of your key original teams.  The big problem is we live in a range of areas from ME, NH, RI, FLA, OR.  We all have friends back at home that we spend time with and with whom we try to share what we have picked up through our shared experiences.

One of the hardest things to overcome when discussing training with many people is that it is better to spend money on good quality training (travel, class, ammo) than on "another" gun or on an "upgrade" that make you a better shooter . Each class I continue to develop from what I learn from they guys I attend training with as much as from the instructors.  There are so many options out there (some good, some not so much) that there is almost no reason to not get at least one class in per year.

Sorry got off the original topic. To your original question it would really depend on the recognized status of the militia in the that is being visited. Even if recognized within their own state the given militia may not be recognized by the state they traveled into.  For example RI has no recognized militia units and if a CT traveled into RI they probably would not be officially recognized by RI.  BTW I am just throwing this against the wall and as likely to be totally wrong as I am to be accurate.

[Kentactic]

Jmac I like what you wrote. Thats a damn good plan. The main weakness of these organized groups is every member needs to own his own business or have boatloads of vacation time saved up. Most situations won't be TEOTWAWKI and many members simply cannot deploy. Its not their job to be militia so they can't up and go fight low key fights at the drop of a hat.

That pretty much cuts most militia off at the knees. If 10% of their group actually shows up its a miracle.

[JohnyMac]

Yupper Ken!

CJS, what you wrote is RIGHT ON!  Put the new firearm on the back burner and get some training.

My challenge is, as many here - Money!  I have the time but a bit short on funds. 

With that said I am looking for a retired NCO who would like to dedicate his time as suggested in a resent article by John Mosby. Hell, I have thousands of acres of property around our 35 acres at the BOL which to play on.

Currently I am doing something that is free and good for me - Two to three mile walks six days a week. For the most part I do these full rattle minus the plate carrier and three day ruck. Starting next week I will be back in suburbia so I probably will loose the rattle & AR and stick with just the ruck. 

All in all though, I have been squirreling away penny's for awhile and I plan on taking Max Velocity's TC3 and Combat Rifle Manipulation class. It's a one day class and only cost $100-. Of course $100- round trip in fuel from the BOL plus food and lodging.

So there you go. Pay for training, find someone who can train you, do PT and save for that once a year training. Oh yeah and also find some like minded folks in your AO to train with.