Reliable ejection with 3" shells

[Reaver]

Dude  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co


There is a reason the only shotgun I will let in my home ( Permanent residence of course ) is a Remington 870 Wingmaster Magnum.

Here is the numbers for a birth year.

1950____*___ WW
1951____*___ XX
1952____*___ YY
1953____*___ ZZ
1954_______ A
1955_______ B
1956_______ C
1957_______ D
1958_______ E
1959_______ F
1960_______ G
1961_______ H
1962_______ J
1963_______ K
1964_______ L
1965_______ M
1966_______ N
1967_______ P
1968_______ R
1969_______ S
1970_______ T
1971_______ U
1972_______ W
1973_______ X
1974_______ Y
1975_______ Z
1976_______ I
1977_______ O
1978_______ Q
1979_______ V
1980_______ A
1981_______ B
1982_______ C
1983_______ D
1984_______ E
1985_______ F
1986_______ G
1987_______ H
1988_______ I
1989_______ J
1990_______ K
1991_______ L
1992_______ M
1993_______ N
1994_______ O
1995_______ P
1996_______ Q
1997_______ R
1998_______ S
1999_______ T
2000_______ U
2001_______ W
2002_______ X


Check your local Pawnshops and gunstores. I find them all over the place for about 350 bucks. Make that shit happen brother.

[Kentactic]

other then overall quality control in earlier years being better, whats the difference between an express and a wingmaster of the same year?

[Reaver]

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=247316

Post #2 says it all.

Fit and finish and some internal things. Also, if I remember correctly the entire receiver is from a billot of steel and an express is pieced together from two.

[mountainredneck2051]

i buy the hell out of old 870's for like 150 out here

[Kentactic]

i see. I may just go for the police model. It has all the goodies to make it more reliable like a stiffer lifter spring out of the 1100 plus all the hand fit and polishing of this and that.

[mountainredneck2051]

the police models are like 400 out here, but they got lights and other shit on em

[Reaver]

All the police models I have encountered have had leaf sites and are not " Magnum " stamped.

I don't know about you gents but I just cant work right with leaf sites. I tried it on the FN Police, just didn't work out for me.

[Kentactic]

I Emailed wilson combat... see what they think i should do... send it to them to make it right, add certain parts, sue remington for pain and suffering etc.

[Reaver]

You could go to a ..... (shutters in own boots).... Mossberg 

[Kentactic]

If a 590 could allow you to keep all the rounds in the magazine and work the action i wouldnt think twice.

[mountainredneck2051]

ithaca 37 is still the standard in fighting shotguns

[Reaver]

ithaca 37 is still the standard in fighting shotguns

35 years ago.

[1000meterstare]

Hey Ken, you ever thought about a Winchester super-X pump?  (Used to be called 1300 defender).  It has a recoil pad standard, chrome-lined bore standard, and just feels great in your stance.  (Or at least mine).  I think it's one hell of a fighting shotgun; I put a sling on it and a saddle on the non-shooting (left) side of the saddle.  Handles like a dream.

[Kentactic]

Hey Ken, you ever thought about a Winchester super-X pump?  (Used to be called 1300 defender).  It has a recoil pad standard, chrome-lined bore standard, and just feels great in your stance.  (Or at least mine).  I think it's one hell of a fighting shotgun; I put a sling on it and a saddle on the non-shooting (left) side of the saddle.  Handles like a dream.

Sounds nice but im afraid to stray from the box. If it sucks i cant afford to keep buying guns. So i stick with the typicals to play it safe. Then again i went with the typical 870 and got shafted... lol... if the 590 sucks ill get a winchester. if that sucks ill get a single shot to saw the barrel of for ease of suicide.

Oh did i say im going to try the damn 590?.. ya i am...

[Reaver]

lol, [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at Mossberg.

Dude, try The FN Police or W1300 first. Please.

[Kentactic]

Ok so an update on the ejecting issues. I installed a Non-MIM extractor and all ejecting problems have been corrected. Gun ejects rounds perfectly now. You can visually see the MIM extractor has more play and wiggle in the bolt compared to the Non-MIM extractor.


If your wondering if your 870 has the upgraded Extractor or not heres a picture to show the differences. Theres a bump on the MIM extractor that can be seen with the gun assembled.

[thatGuy]

I not even going to go into the brand hater stuff, I am just going to say that you have spent time and effort getting this 870 sorted out. You will have to do that all over again with any shotgun you buy.

Stick with the one you already know buddy, you're doing great with that thing!

[Kentactic]

I not even going to go into the brand hater stuff, I am just going to say that you have spent time and effort getting this 870 sorted out. You will have to do that all over again with any shotgun you buy.

Stick with the one you already know buddy, you're doing great with that thing!

Agreed. Every gun has its can of worms. Ive figured this one out now so id be stupid to start from scratch again.

[thatGuy]

Exactly!