AR- 15 vs. AK-47

[NOLA556]

I know I will hate myself in the morning for posting in here lol. I don't see why we don't all just shoot what works for us and move on to a new topic. Learn the manual of arms for your particular choice and leave it at that. They are both good platforms and both have drawbacks as well. I have nothing but respect for ak's as I have had many of them shot at me in anger. I however run Ar's because I have 24 years of trigger time on them and Uncle Sam spent more money than I will ever make teaching me what to do with them.  For me it makes sense, for you maybe not. Drive on gentlemen.

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[Johnny Tremain]

I'm going to say this once.

You will never see a AK-47, the last one was made in 1961, when I was in grade school, before most of you were born.

Any one that uses the liberal medias buzz words only helps the commies.

Find out WTF you own, either and AKS, or AKM, W, 74, what ever.

Each firearm platform has its pros and cons. You need to figure out by where you live, what terrain is around you. What the best is for your needs.

[NOLA556]

sorry OONW... gotta do it man...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlUrSeEOok&feature=related

[EJR914]

sorry OONW... gotta do it man...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlUrSeEOok&feature=related

He had a failure to feed with his AK?  Man, I've never even had one yet with my AR, Knock on Wood.   

[Reaver]

I'm going to say this once.

You will never see a AK-47, the last one was made in 1961, when I was in grade school, before most of you were born.

Any one that uses the liberal medias buzz words only helps the commies.

Find out WTF you own, either and AKS, or AKM, W, 74, what ever.

Each firearm platform has its pros and cons. You need to figure out by where you live, what terrain is around you. What the best is for your needs.

Just because its your gay ass pet peeve doesn't mean its mine. 1 of my  AK47'S has had about 10k through it, the other only about 500 & I have NEVER ever ever had an issue.

[mountainredneck2051]

I'm going to say this once.

You will never see a AK-47, the last one was made in 1961, when I was in grade school, before most of you were born.

Any one that uses the liberal medias buzz words only helps the commies.

Find out WTF you own, either and AKS, or AKM, W, 74, what ever.

Each firearm platform has its pros and cons. You need to figure out by where you live, what terrain is around you. What the best is for your needs.

so your an old fuck, whoopty doo
instead of bitching why not actually add some helpful insight?

[Dave_M]

He had a failure to feed with his AK?  Man, I've never even had one yet with my AR, Knock on Wood.   

Usually this means you haven't shot it enough 

[Reaver]

He had a failure to feed with his AK?  Man, I've never even had one yet with my AR, Knock on Wood.   

Usually this means you haven't shot it enough 

Or he cleans it like a horny school teacher with a crome trailer hitch.

[Dave_M]

He had a failure to feed with his AK?  Man, I've never even had one yet with my AR, Knock on Wood.   

Usually this means you haven't shot it enough 

Or he cleans it like a horny school teacher with a crome trailer hitch.

Or it has zero to do with cleaning and everything to do with lube and PMCS checks.

[Reaver]

That's funny.... I hardly ever need to do that with my  [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m

[Dave_M]

That's funny.... I hardly ever need to do that with my

Yeah sure. Messed up magazines never make an AK fail  <img src="http://www.smileydes

[redraptor26]

ok more that likely has been said but ARs are more reliable than people think and AKs are a lot more accurate than people think.  but on that note i have an AK 74 (the 47s are not legal in my state. no RPKs sucks) the round is the very good anti personnel round.  the 5.45x39 is the cheapest military caliber round, $4 for a box of 20. the guns themselves are accurate and reliable the mussel break is one of the best good surplus mags are in the $15 range the guns themselves are in the $500-900 range so if your on a budget and want to work through the comparatively slower reload to the AR, the AK is a good reliable choice to make. but all this aside its all personal preference the goal is to pick something and get good with it 

[leadpersuasion]

I believe the AK vs AR debate comes down to most folks budget. If I had the dough, I would just go for a LWRC in 6.8 SPC and reload after work everyday! Best of both with that combo. I believe most folks should go with an AK in either round, 5.45 or 7.62, due to getting the most practice possible for the money. I guess one could argue that you could almost practice for as cheap as an Ak, if you used steel .223. I would expect more FTF, FTE....etc. with that combo though. YMMV.
The point is, the proficiency with the weapon, will, in most cases, determine who will win the battle. Whatever a person decides on, get your ass out there and shoot it!!! Also, in a WROL situation, you WILL use what has ammo available for the weapon, no bullshit on that one! Either you have a weapon with ammo available or your shit outta luck! The idea of keeping whatever platform you have now will possible become irrelevant at that point.

God Bless 'Merica!  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

[EJR914]

I believe the AK vs AR debate comes down to most folks budget. If I had the dough, I would just go for a LWRC in 6.8 SPC and reload after work everyday! Best of both with that combo. I believe most folks should go with an AK in either round, 5.45 or 7.62, due to getting the most practice possible for the money. I guess one could argue that you could almost practice for as cheap as an Ak, if you used steel .223. I would expect more FTF, FTE....etc. with that combo though. YMMV.
The point is, the proficiency with the weapon, will, in most cases, determine who will win the battle. Whatever a person decides on, get your ass out there and shoot it!!! Also, in a WROL situation, you WILL use what has ammo available for the weapon, no bullshit on that one! Either you have a weapon with ammo available or your shit outta luck! The idea of keeping whatever platform you have now will possible become irrelevant at that point.

God Bless 'Merica! 

For sure man!   [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

[thatGuy]

Hey Lead, maybe the increase of FTEs with steel case ammo during training could be a good thing.

[EJR914]

Hey Lead, maybe the increase of FTEs with steel case ammo during <b>training</b> could be a good thing.

My thought exactly, that guy.  I had my Sig P229 have a bunch of FTF's one day when I messed up my recoil spring and needed to change it out.  It really helped me practice my FTF's in a real way, because I couldn't expect when it would happen, probably ever 10 rounds or so.

We usually load each others mags and put in a few empty brass or other device to make us clear the weapon and get a new round in there, anyway, but this way, it was completely unexpected and I had no idea if it would even FTF, and then boom, it would.

Its great practice, IMHO.

Sure you don't want failures when you're using your firearm in self-defense or in WROL, but in practice, FTF and FTE's especially at random are very welcome.  You're going to have them when SHTF, so you better know how to be very surprised when you gun doesn't go bang when you need it, and you'll need to clear the weapon and get a new round in there.   [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co [url=http://www.freesmileys.or

[leadpersuasion]

Hey Lead, maybe the increase of FTEs with steel case ammo during training could be a good thing.

Roger that! I believe that most well built AR companies ( Bravo, DD, Colt, etc.) won't experience this anyways.

[Dave_M]

if you used steel .223. I would expect more FTF, FTE....etc. with that combo though. YMMV.

If you have a proper-spec 5.56 chamber and it's chrome-lined, you won't have them all that much. Unless of course your rifle short strokes with it.

[militaryman84]

if you used steel .223. I would expect more FTF, FTE....etc. with that combo though. YMMV.

If you have a proper-spec 5.56 chamber and it's chrome-lined, you won't have them all that much. Unless of course your rifle short strokes with it.

Yah, as long as your got a proper gas system you should have no problem.  Just to many M4 clones out there now that are not set up right.

[EJR914]

I was going to find out today if the Tul steel cased stuff worked well with my M4 because I was about to buy a crap load of it from wal-mart.

Well anyway, I chose to do my video response to That Guy today instead, but I'm about to find out soon how the steel case works in my M4. 

It should be fine, because mine is mil-spec and is chromed lined so it should be all good to go.   [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

Also, why don't we have an M4 or M16 icon, but we have a AK-47?  WTF?!?!?!  LOL  I smell conspiracy.  haha

[UnBroken]

I was going to find out today if the Tul steel cased stuff worked well with my M4 because I was about to buy a crap load of it from wal-mart.

Well anyway, I chose to do my video response to That Guy today instead, but I'm about to find out soon how the steel case works in my M4. 

It should be fine, because mine is mil-spec and is chromed lined so it should be all good to go.   

Yea we have a  [url=http://www.freesmileys.or but no M4 ? ( reaches for his tin foil hat)

[EJR914]

Yeah guys!  Why do we have TWO AK47 icons, and yet we have no, M4 or M16 icon?   

Not cool guys, not cool at all.  Time 505th find us at least one!  LOL

[EJR914]

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[EJR914]

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[EJR914]

Now where is our M4 or M16 emoticon?   [url=http://www.freesmileys.or