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AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« on: January 13, 2012, 12:22:33 PM »
http://www.parabellumarmament.com/pasite/akarshome.htm

AK owners, any opinions on this system? Been looking at it pretty hard the last month, seems a really good idea. Always disliked the traditional side mounts and the various hand guard rail mounting systems.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 12:25:35 PM »
Looks sweet.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 12:52:24 PM »
It looks like you are counting on that pin to keep the whole rail zero and there is a lot of potental for leverage on that pin. From a design stand point I don't like it. It doesn't look tough enough.

Check out the UlitMak rail, it replaces the gas tube and seems to be a much sturdier mount.



http://ultimak.com/M1-b.htm
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 01:09:02 PM »
Quote from: thatguy on January 13, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
It looks like you are counting on that pin to keep the whole rail zero and there is a lot of potental for leverage on that pin. From a design stand point I don't like it. It doesn't look tough enough.
Yeah, I can see your point on it not looking sturdy enough and possible strain points. Still would love to get hands on with it and see for myself.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 03:01:32 PM »
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 03:18:34 PM »
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »
I am going to say the same thing again. That dogleg deal *looks* better because it makes an attempt at attaching to the rear of the receiver but its still hinky in my book.

Crudos, this is the sighting device on a weapon that you will attempt to save your own life with, keep that in mind before you attach it to some hinky shit.

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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 03:27:08 PM »
Quote from: thatguy on January 13, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
I am going to say the same thing again. That dogleg deal *looks* better because it makes an attempt at attaching to the rear of the receiver but its still hinky in my book.

Crudos, this is the sighting device on a weapon that you will attempt to save your own life with, keep that in mind before you attach it to some hinky shit.
Noted TG, thanks. Definitely something I will do more research on before plunking down the cash.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 03:31:29 PM »
*Hinky*....thats a new one!  :))
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 03:54:12 PM »
Both of those are insanely expensive. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
I have one of these on my AK and it holds a zero great and is solid as fuck.
Plus it's only $40.

only downside is that it doesn't work with folding stocks

http://www.amazon.com/AIM-7-62x39-Weaver-Scopes-Accessories/dp/B002ZVFEMG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1326487903&sr=8-4
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 05:12:55 PM »
I've been fucking around for the past month trying to get a good co-witness on my AK.

All I have to say are two things.

1.  Thank God for eBay.

2.  Just get the Ultimak
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 05:14:43 PM »
Forgot to mention that I've tried the RS 30mm Mount, the MI/US PALM handguard, and a few others.

All AK rifles are built differently.  You just have to find what works for you.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 06:59:34 PM »
seems like it will get hot fast the upper hand gaurd is there for a reason.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 07:26:07 PM »
Blake,  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 11:51:27 PM »
We gonna have beef TG?
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 01:00:50 PM »
How do you attach a rail to the reciever of the AK? Drill and tap?
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 05:22:31 PM »
No problems RS, I just don't believe that without meaningful connections there is no point to mounting optics to a rifle.

I will say the same to a guy who is mounting to a two piece on an AR.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 09:40:34 AM »
I have to agree with ThatGuy. I tried a couple different rail mount options, including the texas weapons systems dogleg rail, and eventually I said "screw it" and picked up a cheap $30 UTG side rail mount, and haven't had a problem since. The rail I have for my handguard would also be a sufficient mounting platform (not sure the brand, but it's made for my saiga, and is VERY sturdy) and it allows me to maintain the use of my iron sights , but I need a little more elevation on the scope so the side rail mount is where it's at for me. AND it works with my folding stock. Only issue I have with it is that I'll have to grind a groove in the top rail and find a different set of rings to use my irons. Of course, it is a QD mount and since it has no problem with zero retention, the scope and mount can go into a dump pouch if I have need of unobstructed iron sights. For what it's worth, the 3-9x40 scope I have mounted is pretty sufficient for anything further than 25ft. Inside 25ft, I'm probably going with a pistol or my saiga 12 anyway.



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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2012, 12:40:41 PM »
Ok check this out, After watching how this mounts, it looks very trustworthy.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2012, 01:00:45 PM »
Thanks for finding that Spirit. Looks solid to these non-expert eyes. Yeah, it's a bit pricey, but not horribly so in the grand scheme of the AK world.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2012, 01:09:57 PM »
To be honest I don't think $129 is alot. Many people buy $600 aimpoint micro's. I think it looks like a good deal.
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 05:58:24 PM »
Looks nice and sturdy. And its American made! [url=http://www.freesmileys.or
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 08:24:11 PM »
If you guys won't let me talk you out of it just do me a solid and MAKE A VIDEO REVIEW! oh and if you could beat the shit out of it too that would be super!
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 09:58:47 PM »
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Re: AK-47/74 Adaptive Rail System?AKARS
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2012, 02:33:30 AM »
I wouldn't trust ANYTHING that "secures" to the dust cover.
There is no way that thing holds a zero, sure it's connected at the rear sight but there is no way that connection at the dust cover is secure. Ever seen slow-mo of an AK firing? that dust cover is a wobbly mother fucker, there's no getting around it.
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