Author Topic: 300 AAC Blackout  (Read 5162 times)

Offline mountainredneck2051

  • Hardcore Prepper
  • ******
  • Posts: 1491
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2011, 12:15:45 AM »
i started to like the concept of this round myself

which is why i went out and bought an ak47..........



thats right yall rednecks back
Bursting bubbles since 2013

Offline Kobalt

  • Committed prepper
  • *****
  • Posts: 913
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2011, 12:20:34 PM »
i started to like the concept of this round myself

which is why i went out and bought an ak47..........



thats right yall rednecks back


You left?
Fan out your shots. We want everyone to get some.

Offline sledge

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2328
  • Karma: +5/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2011, 04:06:16 PM »
i started to like the concept of this round myself

which is why i went out and bought an ak47..........



thats right yall rednecks back

Glad to see you back Mountain.   :)   How did your sabbatical away from the computer work out?   



In the pursuit of liberty, many will fall. In the pursuit of fascism, many will be against the wall..........   Courtesy of Xydaco

1000meterstare

  • Guest
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »
Away from the computer?  Nah...he was just checking out animae porn.   ;)

goodnightChesty1775

  • Guest
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2012, 07:57:33 PM »
and this!!!!

300 AAC Blackout on M249 SAW

Offline Reaver

  • Hardcore Prepper
  • ******
  • Posts: 3256
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • I just want it to start already
    • ASTINvlogs
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2012, 08:17:33 PM »
AKSU AK SBR in 300 AAC Blackout with AAC Blackout Flash Hider/Suppressor


Sweet  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Any station this is net, any station this is net. Monster One Alpha Radio check over.

goodnightChesty1775

  • Guest
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2012, 08:21:35 PM »
ta-tas that is badass

Offline RS762

  • Committed prepper
  • *****
  • Posts: 989
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2012, 11:21:41 PM »
You really had me with the 300 AAC M249 but lost me on the AK.
Why chamber an AK in 300 AAC? Seems like more trouble than it's worth if you ask me.

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2014, 05:16:53 PM »
Is anyone reapproaching this? I've seen people taking a .300 Blk AR pistol with the Sig brace, put a suppressor on it, and have what is essentially a suppressed SBR, that is very quiet. Ammo can be had for ~.50/rd (I just checked). Seems to perform similar to 7.62x39 at a distance, and is very quiet when suppressed for close in work.

Thoughts, now that it has been 3 years since this thread was started?

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2014, 05:21:37 PM »
Here is an example of ammo prices available online.

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/300aac-blackout

Offline special-k

  • Peasant Extraordinaire
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2074
  • Karma: +9/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2014, 06:32:49 PM »
An integrally suppressed 300 Blackout has been on my wish list for a while... and I'll get one as soon I have more than a pot to piss in... so I'm not holding my breath.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2014, 12:37:34 AM by special-k »
"It wouldn't do any good.  I've had the shit beat out of me a lot of times.  I just replenish with more shit."  - Billy McBride

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2014, 10:38:01 PM »
Integrally suppressed? Tell me more.

Offline special-k

  • Peasant Extraordinaire
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2074
  • Karma: +9/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2014, 10:55:12 PM »
Yup!  There are some companies now that specialize in integrally suppressed 300 Blackout uppers... "Daniel Defense" for one.  From what I can tell, the sole reasoning for this caliber's existence is to be ran suppressed.  It's subsonic ballistics are far superior to 9mm, .40 & .45.

Daniel Defense Integrally Suppressed 300 Blackout
"It wouldn't do any good.  I've had the shit beat out of me a lot of times.  I just replenish with more shit."  - Billy McBride

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2014, 07:48:28 AM »
Mmm...

Let me explain where my thoughts on this are.

I have an M1A. Great rifle. Great cartridge. However, there are cons as well as pros, and I'm constantly comparing tools to see if something may work better for me. I got the rifle because the 7.62x51 reliably kills targets up close and at a greater distance than other cartridges and has excellent penetrating of engine blocks/car doors, while maintaining accuracy.

The down sides are the weight of the rifle and the round, the reduced magazine capacity, and the increased cost of ammunition compared to 5.56 and 7.62x39. I also thought  I might be in a much more open, mid-Western state by now or the near future, in which the strengths of the M1A at a distance would really shine. That is no longer the case - I seem to be committed to semi-rural areas near urban areas with field of views no longer than 200-300 yards, thus negating a big advantage of the M1A and putting me at a firepower disadvantage compared to a rifle with higher capacity.

Anyway, that is how I think. I don't want a 5.56, and 7.62x39 just doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure I have a legitimate reason to justify not liking the AK, other than even at 200-300 yards there seems to be a difference in accuracy compared to 5.56 and .308.

Then, I see the .300 Blk cartridge, which seems to combine the accuracy of 5.56 with the penetration of a .30 cal rifle. As a bonus, it is amazingly quiet when suppressed, and is almost identical to 5.56 except for the suppressor and barrel used.

I've seriously considered evaluating it's POU against my M1A and, if it seems superior to my new criteria, possibly selling my rifle/ammo/mags (which altogether cost ~ $1800), and investing in a .300 Blk AR.

It's not something I'm considering lightly, but it seems warranted. Thoughts?

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15159
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2014, 08:27:14 AM »
If you are going to keep your M1A and add to it the 300 AAC I would be warmer to your plan then out right selling your M1A. Ammo will be a tough find in a prolonged situation.

Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2014, 08:59:33 AM »
True, but my thought on that was if it gets that bad, I should be able to get a 5.56 upper and there should be plenty of ammo for that. Understand also, that I already only have about 400 rds for my M1A right now, anyway. Just a money thing. I also know that if you have a proper reloading press and dies, you can cut down 5.56 brass and remake it into .300 AAC brass for reloading.

I'm not sold on the idea yet, by the way...just looking for advice.

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2014, 10:10:34 AM »
I'm also looking for info on ballistic performance in comparison to 5.56, 7.62x39 and 7.62x51.

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2014, 10:45:41 AM »
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/308-vs-300-blackout-67851/

Here's an interesting debate, even if it is almost 3 years old.

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2014, 11:19:53 AM »
Rah buddy.. you need to get over hating on the 5.56 already.. just saying..

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2014, 11:51:15 AM »
I don't hate it! LOL. I just prefer a caliber that starts with a "3".

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2014, 11:53:40 AM »
Maybe it's time you put the pipe down and come into the 21 century..

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2014, 12:26:00 PM »
My issue with 5.56 is a lack of penetration through objects such as vehicles (i.e., engine blocks) in an urban environment, mostly. If we had those nice rounds, the black tipped ones that penetrate better, it might not be as much of an issue for me. I'm not archaic in my mindset, I just base my decisions on what info I have.

Offline rah45

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1572
  • Karma: +5/-0
  • Live Free, or Die.
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2014, 12:29:09 PM »
If I DID get a .300 Blk, and I got all the necessities for it and a good amount of ammo, I would definitely invest in a 5.56 upper to have both options.

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15159
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2014, 01:02:23 PM »
It's fun to dream Rah however practicality tends to play out when money is short.

Just a thought:
> Buy a 80% lower for $50-. I think the jig is around $30-.
> Then buy a complete rifle kit for ~$400.

You gotz a complete AR for around ~$500-.

 
« Last Edit: November 20, 2014, 02:34:34 PM by JohnyMac »
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: 300 AAC Blackout
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2014, 01:50:14 PM »
Bulletproof Mercedes Benz - Not So Bulletproof!