"DMR Mosin"

[Mlee]

Just finished my custom paint job today. All she needs now is a sling and it is done! More pix will be added tomorrow.
 
*Specs

Rifle: M-38
Scope: Leatherwood 2-7
Brake: AMD-65
Trigger: Timney
Grip: Hogue
Action: Glass bedded and barrel free floated.

[TheHipsterPrepper]

Pretty sweet little Mosin. Does the paint on the bolt group make it hard to cycle?

[Grudgie]

I wouldn't imagine it would. My Mosin bolt is very lose. Like wiggle wiggle lose lose.

[TheHipsterPrepper]

I wouldn't imagine it would. My Mosin bolt is very lose. Like wiggle wiggle lose lose.

Haha, oh good ole' Mosins! Mine is a little loose too, but I would think that paint (especially if it's duracoat all thick and whatnot) would make it a little hard to cycle. I mean yeah I guess there isn't too much metal-to-metal contact, but I would think the outside of the bolt and the receiver would cause friction. Paint is rather soft compared to metal, but hey if it works, it works. It's a 100-150 dollar gun, who cares!

[JohnyMac]

Great job Mlee!  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

[RS762]

Nice!
I just got my hands on a 1930 Izhvesk hex receiver that im planning on putting a PU mount and scope on. It'll be more of a period-gun that yours but damn that's sweet.

Good work man [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

[thatGuy]

Very nice Mlee, tell us about that break!

[Mlee]

Pretty sweet little Mosin. Does the paint on the bolt group make it hard to cycle?

I taped off the action and the lower half of the bolt where the two points meet. I also used light coats of paint to avoid gumming up the action. With some lube, the bolt is just as smooth as it always has been.

[Mlee]

I wouldn't imagine it would. My Mosin bolt is very lose. Like wiggle wiggle lose lose.

Haha, oh good ole' Mosins! Mine is a little loose too, but I would think that paint (especially if it's duracoat all thick and whatnot) would make it a little hard to cycle. I mean yeah I guess there isn't too much metal-to-metal contact, but I would think the outside of the bolt and the receiver would cause friction. Paint is rather soft compared to metal, but hey if it works, it works. It's a 100-150 dollar gun, who cares!

My experiences with Duracoat, the paint goes on thin and if it is painted right it wont cause any interferences.

[Mlee]

Nice!
I just got my hands on a 1930 Izhvesk hex receiver that im planning on putting a PU mount and scope on. It'll be more of a period-gun that yours but damn that's sweet.

Good work man

I can definitely appreciate a period gun. The one thing I would recommend doing is bedding the action because the fit between the action and stock is really loose! It will help make all the difference in accuracy. These old rifles can be made to shoot well. For the price of a cheap off the rack modern rifle, I can have the nostalgia of an old war horse that I can take out into the field for hunting and still have easy access to cheap mil surp ammo for practice/plinking. 

[Mlee]

Very nice Mlee, tell us about that break!

Thanks. The brake is a Hungarian AMD 65 brake for an AKM that I modified to fit the Mosin. They were $6 each so I bought a couple. It seems to do a great job of taming recoil and flip.

[crudos]

As a collector of Mosins, I'm not that impressed, sorry Mlee. For all of that, you could've bought a Remington 700 and had much better accuracy right from the box, and then started to tweak this and that. The fact that you took a perfectly fine m38 (which are getting rarer and rarer) instead of hacking up a run-of-the-mill 91/30 for your project, kinda makes me ill. Oh well, it's your gun. Sorry if I'm not my usual positive self, but seeing this tacticooled rifle kinda killed my day.
 

[Mlee]

As a collector of Mosins, I'm not that impressed, sorry Mlee. For all of that, you could've bought a Remington 700 and had much better accuracy right from the box, and then started to tweak this and that. The fact that you took a perfectly fine m38 (which are getting rarer and rarer) instead of hacking up a run-of-the-mill 91/30 for your project, kinda makes me ill. Oh well, it's your gun. Sorry if I'm not my usual positive self, but seeing this tacticooled rifle kinda killed my day.
 

That's fine, I was expecting some criticism because of what it is but because millions of these type of  rifles were made; it is not much of a loss. If it was a Hex receiver or a Finnish captured rifle or a K 31 Swiss for that matter, I would of left it stock. I have owned this rifle for a few years and left it alone for the first 2. I actually spent less money tweaking this rifle than what it would cost me to buy a Rem 700 but that is not the reason why I did it. My project served as a learning platform for gunsmithing as it is one of the hobbies I enjoy while modifying the rifle to my particular needs. All feedback and criticism is welcomed. No apologies needed as I appreciate honesty over lies.

All the best,

Mlee   

[RS762]

But....
They don't make a 700 in 7.62x54r....

Remington 700's are the most overrated rifle on the planet.
Just another cheap-ass push feed gun 

[thatGuy]

We are eagerly awaiting the results  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co

[technique]

But....
They don't make a 700 in 7.62x54r....

Remington 700's are the most overrated rifle on the planet.
Just another cheap-ass push feed gun 

700's are of ANY caliber.

[thatGuy]

only one problem with the 700.. no irons

[Kentactic]

But....
They don't make a 700 in 7.62x54r....

Remington 700's are the most overrated rifle on the planet.
Just another cheap-ass push feed gun 

I would agree their quality is often over rated as you hear some say "the action is the smoothest ive ever seen". And if they are telling the truth thats sad. Remingtons quality control sucks balls and the gun itself is no work of art. But one thing seems to remain no matter what. Accuracy... they pump those rifles out like hot cakes yet the damn accuracy is there... handling the rifle and working the action would lead many to beleive it lacks... But the suckers shoot. In my opinion thats the only thing that matters in a bolt action rifle. Cheap? yes, push feed? well yes of course... Accurate.... yep again.

[Mlee]

I am thinking about doing a modern budget DMR rifle in 308 win. At first I was going to go with the Rem 700 ACC but then I found the Howa 1500 that can already take detachable box mags that are very cheap in comparison to the Rem 700 that requires an expensive trigger guard/magwell and inletting to the stock to fit that will run over 300 bones. Not to mention they take the expensive Accuracy International mags. I want something with a bull barrel which they both have factory options for. For the money, I think the Howa 1500 is a good buy.

[RS762]

Im not saying they aren't accurate, they obviously are.
They just aren't exceptional in any way.

A savage model 10, a Weatherby Vanguard S2, a Browning X-bolt, and a Remington 700 will shoot the same groups all day long (given similar barrel profiles and lengths). But it is what it is.

And preference is preference.
I just think push feed guns are a way of cutting corners in the manufacturing process. And unfortunately Remingtons are no exception. 

[thatGuy]

Hey guys, you're using language I've never heard before! Whats a push gun?

Maybe we need an explaination of action types in its own thread?

[RS762]

Hey guys, you're using language I've never heard before! Whats a push gun?

Maybe we need an explaination of action types in its own thread?

Here, I'll let Larry Potterfield show you.
It essentially boils down to is this. Mauser action vs. cheap bullshit.

Gunsmithing - The Difference Between Controlled Round and Push Feed

[Kentactic]

they are both the same thing except one does the same thing fancier....

You can load a remington 700 upside down same as you can any controlled round fed gun. Not much benefit to controlled round feed.

Sorry to be so off topic mlee

[Grudgie]

Nice!
I just got my hands on a 1930 Izhvesk hex receiver that im planning on putting a PU mount and scope on. It'll be more of a period-gun that yours but damn that's sweet.

Good work man

A pu scope is not period correct for a hex reciever. The earlier ones had pe scopes. But I was thinking about getting a pe or pu for my hex reciever. Is there a way to put a pu on a hex reciever? I like the pu for the Vassili Zaitstev Stalingrady feel.

[RS762]

Nice!
I just got my hands on a 1930 Izhvesk hex receiver that im planning on putting a PU mount and scope on. It'll be more of a period-gun that yours but damn that's sweet.

Good work man

A pu scope is not period correct for a hex reciever. The earlier ones had pe scopes. But I was thinking about getting a pe or pu for my hex reciever. Is there a way to put a pu on a hex reciever? I like the pu for the Vassili Zaitstev Stalingrady feel.

you can put a PU mount on a hex, you just have to drill and tap the sidewall of the reciever.
Im also looking at the Rock solid mount for modern optics but i dunno, haven't made up my mind yet.