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World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« on: March 21, 2022, 10:59:03 AM »
As many of you are aware, I belong to several MAG's (Mutual Assistance Group). I met with one last evening for our monthly meeting. You can guess that the main discussion was, "what are we forgetting"? A list was immediately started and thank the good Lord, it was short.

I was surprised to not see food on the list so I brought it up.

The general consensus amongst the whole group was, "we are squared away here". I then, as I tend to do, threw a wrench into the discussion: What happens when folks show up at your doorstep you were not planning on?

Well of course a mild uproar erupted. The general thought was, "we would tell them to leave." So I responded with, "if your son, daughter, mother, etcetera showed up, you would turn them away?" Everyone started to look  at their plate. I added more food to the list.

With that written, a good friend sent me the article below. It goes into governments are starting to warn against hoarding.

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WASHINGTON, March 14 (Reuters) - World Bank President David Malpass on Monday warned people and businesses against hoarding food and gasoline despite the surge in prices sparked by Russia's invasion of Ukraine and massive sanctions imposed on Moscow.

Malpass told a virtual event hosted by the Washington Post newspaper the sanctions would have a bigger impact on global economic output than the war itself. But he said that based on current assessments, he does not anticipate the crisis ending the global recovery and reducing global GDP.

He said he expected a robust response by producers around the world to increase supplies as needed, and saw no need for people to have extra stockpiles in their kitchens or restaurants.

He said he anticipates big increases in supply of energy outside of Russia and food outside of Russia and Ukraine that will ease the impact of war-driven price spikes and help sustain recovery.

He said that energy supplies may be increased faster than food supplies, given that agricultural adjustments typically take about a year.
- Reuters
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2022, 11:21:31 AM »
I guess things are looking really bad then.

Time for more food storage.
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2022, 12:15:27 PM »
I need to get a bigger bucket.  And bunker to put them in.

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2022, 12:36:45 PM »
When a criminal tells you to get rid of all weapons and to leave your doors unlocked, assume that it's bad advice.

There is no downside for a well stocked, family pantry. When in doubt, 'eat your mistakes'.


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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2022, 03:05:17 PM »
Bwahahaha........ There is no way on earth that I'm going to listen to anything that the Powers That Be say. Whoever has the Food, makes the rules. That's why they don't want people stocking up on extra food. Its hard as Hell to control a person that has everything they need. When I started our neighborhood MAG, I also started thinking about adding more food to my preps because there is always some dumbass in the crowd that won't stock up on extra Food or Meds to help their neighbors out.

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2022, 11:50:43 PM »
Dreading the day, not when I am running low on food -with no resupply on the horizon... and that same day a
Neighbor comes asking for more food.   They refused to prep as a way with dealing with obvious threat (denial).  The have been given food in the past.   And now they are hungry.   Again.    And so will I be.

I don't know _anybody_ that is anywhere near to stocking for a neighborhood inhabited by so many that refused to acknowledge and act on a steady drip of warnings.

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2022, 08:58:18 AM »
Food has been used by masters governments to control the population since the time of the Israelites in Egypt.

'Food' for thought.   
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2022, 09:14:13 AM »
It's frightening to look around the neighborhood and see people that eat at restaurants 5 nights a week, and assume that they will be able to continue doing so. Hard to broach the subject with neighbors, I try to slide it into the conversation that hard times are probably on the way, and it's a good idea to have a little put away. I have quite a few neighbors that are "with the program", and have at least some food stored away, more that I would have guessed. Everyone is a little cagey around the subject, and should be, if .gov is mentioning "hoarding" as a bad thing, you know that if food becomes truly scarce, they'll sic neighbor on neighbor to turn in the "kulaks" that have food and/or supplies.

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2022, 10:22:49 AM »
I suspect some neighborhoods will go at least, partially kinetic.

A friend and member of UP relayed to me a few days ago, tales from Hurricane Sandy. Specifically, his neighborhood on Staten Island, post Sandy.

In short, 90% of neighbors helped their neighbors, while 10% would steal the gold fillings from your teeth. Extrapolate that out to low or no food. I suspect that at the bare minimum of 50% of your neighbors would turn you in to .gov for any infraction, in exchange for food. Based on the Fauci Virus public capitulation, I would say conservatively 50%. Probably closer to 60%.

May I suggest you remember PERSEC (Personal Security).
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2022, 10:35:31 AM »
The concerns expressed that hungry people might "turn you in" for "hoarding" stirs a thought that reoccurs...
..offsite caching.
Sure, the Protectors of the Masses can descend on your deplorable kulak ass and haul off everything in your pantry.  Whether you are already "incarcerated", dying in a pile of hot brass or standing meekly by.
How many have "pantries" away from public knowledge/disconnected from their home?
Storage that critters and weather environment can't get to?    Methods of "hiding" it?
Given it any thoughts?

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2022, 01:26:02 PM »
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2022, 01:28:14 PM »
Nice Sir John!
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2022, 05:43:07 PM »
Good stuff Sir John.
My  area is National Forest, rolling hills, thin soil, little to no undergrowth in Ponderosa pine forest.   There is a scattering of lava tube holes but not much relief in outcroppings (basalt flows over/through limestone.
I have put up buckets for relief distribution done with the plastic buckets/sealable lids like those you can find at Home Depot and even better, "icing" buckets from bakeries.   Stored under the house, they have kept contents stabile and have (surprisingly?) not been targeted by mice.   You do need a tool to open them without damaging though.
Siting a burial place out in the forest that was not directly observable is not problem, but recovery in dark probably would be, if GSP was down or unusable.    Soil depth for adequate burial?    Guess I'll have to try a few places to find out. 
Cruising around on my horses will be done with a new view in mind.  Thanks



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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2022, 05:56:35 PM »
Pro Tip: When laying in a CACHE' , leave the smart phone at home. If GPS coordinates are desired, use an old school, pre-cellphone, stand alone GPS(a).  No reason to have a cellphone rat-out your activities. Consider also what your ONSTAR is likely reporting as you drive to the site.  If your horse has On-Star and an interactive Cell/GPS, might be time to an older model  :cowboy:


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(a)  My old school GPS has many miles in the ruck and was hot stuff in 1998, so it runs on AA batteries and all it does is GPS. I don't care about updated maps for woodland work, thats what USGS topographic maps are for and they're made of hack-proof paper. I also keep a 'twirly thing' called a magnetic compass, not politically controlled.
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2022, 10:11:05 PM »
My horse is sworn to secrecy on threat of being cut off from his beer ration if he slips and goes all Mister Ed on me.
GPS from my Garmin dog collar controller and yes, I have two compasses, one in my "get home bag".
Any number of little swales that can be approached discreetly from more than one direction will have to be checked out for soil depth/rocks.   All within a two mile radius of home.

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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2022, 11:59:12 AM »
I suspect some neighborhoods will go at least, partially kinetic.

A friend and member of UP relayed to me a few days ago, tales from Hurricane Sandy. Specifically, his neighborhood on Staten Island, post Sandy.

In short, 90% of neighbors helped their neighbors, while 10% would steal the gold fillings from your teeth. Extrapolate that out to low or no food. I suspect that at the bare minimum of 50% of your neighbors would turn you in to .gov for any infraction, in exchange for food. Based on the Fauci Virus public capitulation, I would say conservatively 50%. Probably closer to 60%.

May I suggest you remember PERSEC (Personal Security).

I've been stabbed in the back many times by "friends". Most times it was just talking, gossiping and spreading rumors. Other times it was intentional and meant to hurt in one way or another. My guess is closer to 90% or more will turn on you or try to blackmail you into supporting their needs with threat of being turned in. If you help one person you can rest assured that they will talk and sooner or later another person will show up demanding they are entitled to your stuff.
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Re: World Bank Warns Against Hoarding
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2022, 07:38:01 PM »
A familiarity with practice of the 3 "S"s may become de de rigueur amongst true friends and allies.
I will open/check contents of relief bucket next week, probably rotate it and then have Strider take me for a little exploratory ride in the forest...