Unchained Preppers
General Category => Sustenance => Topic started by: JoJo on January 27, 2016, 03:49:38 PM
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A couple of weeks ago I realized that I didn't have any breakfast items with my preps. I buy in small quantities, budget reasons.
Today I bought a large can of Quaker oatmeal and pancake all in one mix. Do I have to remove the contents into a mylar bag with an O2 absorber or can I put the whole box in a bag with an absorber? I have powdered milk but need more.
I ordered egg powder, scrambled eggs with bacon and red feather canned butter from Emergency Essentials when it was on sale and they screwed up the order and I never received them, now they are not on sale. They never answered my three emails either. Good BY Emergency Essentials.
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I would suggest you putting the pancake mix in a mylar bag, squeeze all the air out and iron it or vacuum seal it, with O2 absorbers.
If the oatmeal is in a sealed can, just leave it there. Pay attention to the expiration dates and rotation, rotation, rotation. It should be good for a year or so past that.
Soon as you can get a vacuum sealer and start packaging it like that.
Nemo
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JoJo, these comments are not addressed to you just thinking out loud.
IMO, I would buy flour, baking soda, cream of tartar, (No need for baking powder (http://homecooking.about.com/od/specificfood/a/bakingpowder.htm)) dried yeast, etc as separate items. These items are multi use items where as single use items (Pancake mix) are just that - Single use.
Now flour is tough to store for loner periods than lets say 2 years as you will leave yourself open to critters that is in all flour. Mylar bags and O2 absorbers will help but not eliminate this issue. Plus flour can go rancid although that has never happened to me.
When money is tight think about the basics. Flour and baking soda are often on sale at very reasonable prices. Also you can buy flour in 25 and 50 # bags cheap at restaurant supply businesses like Maines. Look in the yellow pages for Restaurant Supply houses in your neck of the woods.
Keep in mind that butter can be made into ghee and butter is often on sale around holidays throughout the year. I love using the slow cooker method.
Now eggs and bacon I can't help you with other than to raise chickens and pigs.
I have a friend back in RI who lives in a small town. She raises chickens with no neighbor problems as she doesn't have any roosters. She rotates her stock every spring buy buying new chicken chicks from Tractor Supply. She and her husband harvests the hens that have stopped producing. A couple of the chicks will end up being roosters and once mature or when the neighbors start to complain they get harvested too.
As written ad nauseum on UP, my neighbors and I raise pigs. One pig lasts MrsMac and I about 9 months. Total cost from bacon seed to freezer costs us just south of $2- a pound when we are done.
My whole point is when you are planning on putting things away for a rainy day, think of multi use items and if you can go back to live stock.
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Try this place:
https://providentliving.lds.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-order-form?lang=eng
They have some order forms for #10 cans of white flour for about $3. 4 pounds in a can, 10 year shelf life. Hunt around that general providentl iving website and you can locate a place where they do that, probably not real far away where you can make an appointment and go pick it up.
Look into the "starter kits" they have also.
Spend $500 and run a steer out back and you are good for 5-7 years easy. And if it matters, No I am not Mormon.
Nemo
check the form attached for details on good stuff
Look at this also-- https://providentliving.lds.org/emergency-preparedness-and-response/stake-ward-emergency-planning-guide
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Live stock is out HMO forbids them. There is a Provident Living store 90 miles from here but its cheaper to ship because tolls alone are $16.00. I think its best and safer to put them in mylar bags.
According to Food Storage And survival website white flour can be stored for 10 years
http://foodstorageandsurvival.com/food-storage-shelf-life/ (http://foodstorageandsurvival.com/food-storage-shelf-life/)
When every penny counts how any prepper know the correct storage life? :deadHorse:
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Mylar bag or steel cans have the same shelf life. But i like the cans because the can itself is tougher and subject to more abuse and such. You are not going to cut a can by dropping it and it will seal better. I think (not sure) that the storage range for cans are wider range than mylar.
Nemo
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Great site JoJo. Thx :pirateThumbUp:
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Live stock is out HMO forbids them.
can you have rabbits - call them tasty pets?
good feed conversion ratio, you can find some that finish on grass.
fast resupply and could be raised indoors if needed on wheat grass grown indoors.
the major drawback to rabbits is low fat content.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_conversion_ratio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_conversion_ratio)
http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/growing-sprouted-fodder/72618 (http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/growing-sprouted-fodder/72618)
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How about ducks? If there isn't a Drake (male) they are fairly quite and your neighbors won't raise a fuss for a carton of eggs a week, ask me how I know!
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thatGuy, I have three cats and two large Toms come thru my yard everyday. I just would be feeding the neighborhood cats with duck dinners.
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Ever thought about shooting the cats?
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This thread had me thinking back to an older topic (http://unchainedpreppers.com/forum/sustenance/guinea-pig-it's-what's-for-dinner/) from our archives. Y'all newer members should check it out...old timers too if want to feel a little nostalgia.
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That's too bad you had a bad experience with Emergency Essientials. I've ordered multiple times from them $1000+ without a problem.
I saw a website called www.grfoodsinc.com (http://www.grfoodsinc.com) that has Red Feather Butter at $130/case ($5.42/can) which is the cheapest I can find.
If you want to invest a few hundred in grains (wheat, oats, rice) they have a longer shelf life in the whole grain form. That is, still in the whole seed form. Though you would need a grain grinder to make it into wheat. I have a wonder mill deluxe and it is great. I can grind up wheat to a fine flour or leave it a little thicker and grind up some oat meal.
Do I have to remove the contents into a mylar bag with an O2 absorber or can I put the whole box in a bag with an absorber? I have powdered milk but need more.
I don't recon it matters as long as there is no oxygen in the bag.
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Grudgie makes a good point that I would like to add to, whole grains are a sight cheaper too!
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Also, SK, that shit still grosses me out!
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SK, you had me a bit worried before I clicked on your nostalgic link. Worried that we have somehow kept RvR's baby recipes. :trolling:
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Also, SK, that shit still grosses me out!
:thumbsUp: looks like rat. I'm not that hungry... Yet.