Dr. Malone Reports Today New Pandemic Coming From China

[JohnyMac]

Dr. Malone reports that there is a new pandemic in China.

Dr. Malone: "They are using language that this is a hemorrhagic fever virus. If that?s the case then it would be very odd that this would be something caused by the Coronavirus. That terminology is usually used for viruses in the family of Ebola. So this is something that many people have feared is the development of a rapidly spreading Ebola-like hemorrhagic fever virus. But we have not knowledge of whether that is going on here or not." - Gateway Pundit.

[Nemo]

If there is any validity in this, its time to be afraid.  Very afraid.

Nemo

[JohnyMac]

The sad story with all of this, we do not trust anybody anymore. Certainty, not the media or our government. It is a shame.

With that written, to a degree, we deserve what we get because many of us became lazy and not watching the foxes raccoons circling the hen house. 

[Jackalope]

    Yeah, I've been seeing some reports about this virus, which resembles the Marlburg virus.  The reports that I've read indicate a 50% death rate.  Now that would reduce the world population pretty dramatically.  If that sucker pops up here, we'll go into total lockdown immediately.  Just think, the Winter Olympics are the perfect super spreader event!

[Felix]

If anything like Marburg or Ebola truly does begin spreading on our shores, preps could be our lifesavers.
But total "lockdown" will be difficult because the world around us won't be quite as "locked down" as we (at least not in the beginning)
What to do with friends/family/neighbors who still attempt contact?    Can we take lessons from military protocols in bio-warfare?    Anyone have suggestions for reading/behaving with that in mind?

[JohnyMac]

And then their is...

China locks down third city, quarantined now include 20 million

The lockdown of Anyang, which houses 5.5 million people, was announced late Monday after two cases of the omicron variant were reported among the population, according to the Associated Press. Residents cannot go outside, and all stores have been shut down except those providing necessities. - Washington Examiner

[Jackalope]

If anything like Marburg or Ebola truly does begin spreading on our shores, preps could be our lifesavers.
But total "lockdown" will be difficult because the world around us won't be quite as "locked down" as we (at least not in the beginning)
What to do with friends/family/neighbors who still attempt contact?    Can we take lessons from military protocols in bio-warfare?    Anyone have suggestions for reading/behaving with that in mind?

      We're in the process of installing fencing and gates in the front half of our property.  If there is a viral outbreak, the gates will be closed and locked.  There will be signage warning folks to stay away.  Friends and family who wish to enter will need to quarantine for a couple of weeks, otherwise all conversations will be remote.  The quarantine area will likely be wall tents in a remote portion of the property, not fun during the winter. 

      There are military NBC manuals which go into detail regarding their procedures. For us, we'll keep it simple,  quarantine, and anything coming in will be getting sprayed with a bleach solution.

[Felix]

      We're in the process of installing fencing and gates in the front half of our property.  If there is a viral outbreak, the gates will be closed and locked.  There will be signage warning folks to stay away.  Friends and family who wish to enter will need to quarantine for a couple of weeks, otherwise all conversations will be remote.  The quarantine area will likely be wall tents in a remote portion of the property, not fun during the winter. 

      There are military NBC manuals which go into detail regarding their procedures. For us, we'll keep it simple,  quarantine, and anything coming in will be getting sprayed with a bleach solution.
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Interesting... I had thought about tents and quarantine as well.  Already fenced - easily cut or crossed but signage would delineate consequences for that if caught in time.
Have a mere two gallons of bleach at present - think I'll add that to shopping list - the stuff has a shelf life.
But I do have some small tents/sleeping bags, etc that could be used for quarantine - the "what ifs" should someone actually begin presenting with a nasty bug.... dear God.

[Nemo]

Regarding the bleach, note the 6 months post open and about a year from bottling until it is not longer strong enough.

Consider pool chlorine chemicals.  Most are pure chlorine and a small amount cleans up LOTS.  And their shelf life is much longer.

10 pounds for $125 but the initial dose of 10 ounces cleans 10K gallons.

Talk to the pool guy who thinks like us.

Nemo

https://www.spa-daddy.com/Pool-Solutions-Chlorinating-Granules-12001395-sd.html

[Jackalope]

   The problem with pool chemicals is that many are extremely corrosive.  I suggest a MSR SE200 Chlorinator Outdoor Community Chlorine Maker, which produces chlorine using just salt, water and electricity.  It's an effective solution which doesn't require storing toxic materials (unless you consider salt to be a toxic material).  The MSR SE200 comes in a compact case, and the usage instructions are so simple, they use pictographs. Here's one source for the unit: https://www.campsaver.com/msr-se200-chlorinator-outdoor-community-chlorine-maker.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_source=connexity&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&cnxclid=16419225856129683807510070302008005

     And yes, you bet I have one stashed away.

[JohnyMac]

Wow Jackalope, what a great idea. Thx 

Also for perimeter guarding/monitoring check out Dakota Alerts. Do not buy the monitor if you have a HT. Just switch to the specific MURS frequency. "Alert Zone One"

[DMCakhunter]

Options for long term bleach storage:
https://www.clorox.com/products/clorox-zero-splash-bleach-packs/?gclid=aacca8e0b2f913b23812c93d60f25189&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=aacca8e0b2f913b23812c93d60f25189&utm_campaign=CLB|Generic|KW|Product|Packs%20Pods|Exact&utm_content=Products|No%20Splash|Packs&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_term=bleach%20packs

[Sir John Honeybucket]

I TOLD you to stay away, but now that you're here, open your mouth and hold your eyes OPEN while I hose you down with this caustic liquid.  It's not going to hurt ME one bit; YOU on the other hand, will be flopping like a fish for the next two weeks.

[JohnyMac]

LOL! 

[Felix]

Not to beat a dead/dying horse with a Marburg whip...
but one of the things I considered when requiring a period of quarantine for incoming during a pandemic... what about their waste?  Urine might not be too challenging but feces?   All well and good to dig a slit trench for summer but our ground is frozen solid now.  Five gallon bucket and bleach?   Burial or incineration for disposal?   Same, even is summer?  As always, the devil is in the details where nursing is concerned.
Thoughts?

[Sir John Honeybucket]

Waste Disposal for Fun and Profit

1. Put waste into trebuchet sling.

2. Aim trebuchet at Washington D.C..

3. Pull the firing cord.




Problem(s) solved.

[JohnyMac]

Felix brings up a good point regardless of the situation - Bodily waste.

We have a septic system that we have pumped every Presidential election year (4-years);However, what happens as the dark years lingers around for awhile.

Here is a guy, I follow on YouTube, building an outhouse. I wish I had done this before my neighbors back-hoe took a dump. Pun intended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SgFemf7RZM

By the way, wood stove ashes make a good substitute for lime.   

[DMCakhunter]

A 5 gallon bucket with trash bags makes a great toilet. Buy a luggable loo, seat lid or build your own seat.
But make sure this is for #2 and TP only. Pee outside or in another container to dump elsewhere. Bags can be buried or burned as the weather or circumstances allow.
Which reminds me, having access to a steel drum or two would be handy as a burn barrel. They are frowned upon in todays climate, but after shtf, won't be any inspectors writing citations.

[Nemo]

Backhoe.  Neighbor has one.  Those holes are the first thing dug when power is off for a week.  We both agree.

Nemo

[Nemo]

Options for long term bleach storage:

https://www.clorox.com/products/clorox-zero-splash-bleach-packs

Small packs and individually sealed but the chlorine still breaks down over time.  I suspect these are still on the year or so schedule as any other bleach product.  More research needed.  But they are worth it.

Nemo