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Offline JohnyMac

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USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« on: January 29, 2017, 02:00:23 PM »
I ran across this post on the Survivalblog and thought it interesting to copy & paste in its entirety.

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For those of you who don't know me, I have extensive history and connections in leftist activism from previous movements, but I'm essentially a pariah now because I split with them when the the SJWs seized power from the older relatively moderate activists and went full authoritarianism. None the less.. I'm still in all those social circles and I see the discussions going on behind the scenes.

After a long progression, and seeing how things have settled out afterthe Trump election: We're headed for rebellion and possibly a full blown civil war. I've always been skeptical of that largely because neither side would be willing to fire the first shot. That is no longer the case. There is universal calls for, planning of, and efforts to conduct warfare within the left right now. And I don't mean that in the metaphorical sense. They are raising their army.

What's always held the left back in the past is that they knew they could never win in a violent conflict. Both because of a lack of skill, experience, and equipment, but also because of internal disagreement on tactics; being that most within the left would not engage in violence because they believed the greatest strategy was to hold the moral high ground and ruin support and assistance to their opponents. This is no longer the case.

Within the left the pacifists have been solidly silenced by a massive propaganda effort and intimidation (expressing even remotely pacifist views within the left right now can put you in physical danger and in danger of losing things like employment and other social and economic needs). Even people who were extremely vocal and dedicated absolute pacifists, are now reduced to at the very least openly providing passive support for political violence. At this point 'punching NAZIs' is all the rage. They've managed to dehumanize their political opponents so that's no longer considered wrong to physically harm them. They're all looking for a NAZI to punch. And right now anyone who does it perfectly mirror their political views, is a NAZI. And it's already primed to move into 'killing NAZIs.''

And of course the biggest limiting factor is that they have known that they do not stand a chance against a well armed and sufficiently skilled political rights and moderates. After countless efforts to disarm the right in order to reduce it to an inferior fighting force, the AnComs and such have moved to arming themselves. It is no longer a social taboo. Everyone accepts it as a necessary evil. But beyond the arms, the turning point on this front is that they now universally believe themselves to have such a massive majority of the population backing them that they have a significant military advantage. This due to propoganda efforts (the same ones that told them Hillary was going to win in a landslide) and because of a massive mobilization network. They believe they can mass so many people at one location so quickly that they can overwhelm defenders and seize their resources, disperse, and then strike again repeatedly until the right has been defeated.

Here's an example of what I'm seeing being said within activist circles:

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History may occur in patterns but it's hardly predictable, least of all to the participants on the ground. In late October, no one really expected Trump would win. And tonight we are witnessing another unpredictable scenario--less than a week after the largest protests in US history, thousands of people across the country are shutting down airports to help their Muslim brothers and sisters. Make no mistake, what we're seeing is unlike anything our country has seen in decades. It's like Occupy and Black Lives Matter, immigration, and the nuclear protests all wrapped into one giant orange **** storm. I'm putting my chips on the table: Trump will be the first President brought down by a popular revolution...and it's going to happen in months not years. Obama's presidency bought mileage for the empire by assuaging liberals, but Trump is stepping on the gas with empty fumes. We are going to get our second revolution, and it will be spectacular.

This is not what I was expecting to see after a Trump election. I figured people would just get moody and ****y and whine and gripe, but eventually moderate themselves and return to the old left. I was expecting 4 more years of the left from the Bush years. Instead they've doubled down on everything and gotten far more extreme in their desire to forcefully impose their will on others and their belief that they have the power to successfully do so. These people are in a frenzy and they're now completing with each other as to who's the most militant and violent. That spiral will eventually escalate to a point of open conflict. I've never been so worried about a civil war as I am right now. And with my pariah status I'm concerned I worry I may very well become a target. It's enough that I'm out of the political debate for safety reasons, just like a couple years ago I had to pull out of street protesting for the same reason.

What I expect at this point is something that will play out on a very similar path as the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.


If you would like to read the comments following this post go Here.

Personally, I do believe we are headed for some form of civil war here in the good old USofA. We are witnessing the beginning now. It is currently verbal with a little violence however the violence level will increase as the weather becomes warmer in half of the country.

I also have noticed that the MSM (Main Stream Media) are actually fanning the flames of the protests.

Just think if we throw into the current situation the collapse of the stock market, military event in house or across the sea's, trade war. et cetera - What fun the Progressives might have.

Thoughts?
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 08:49:36 PM by JohnyMac »
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Re: USA: In the Foothils of a Civil War
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 02:44:23 PM »
interesting read.

I think civil war is a bit like tyranny or mold - it lingers everywhere looking for the right growing environment.

I do think we're in for interesting times :)

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Re: USA: In the Foothils of a Civil War
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 02:57:15 PM »
 Scary but what is more scary to me is my terminal normalsy bias wife. She thinks her son and I are crazy to prep.
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Re: USA: In the Foothils of a Civil War
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 03:22:09 PM »
 Now I have a question. Knowing what we know about Trump do you think he would clamp down on the money men and/or declare martial law quickly? 
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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 08:58:54 PM »
I am not a psychiatrist however, I think Trump would execute Martial Law regionally.

Chicago is the canary in the coal mine on this subject. If he pulls the trigger there, he will pull it in other places in the country. Slow at first then quicker as unrest arises.

Now with that written I believe that if he can get through 2017 without declaring regional martial law, he/we will be home free.

With that all written I truly believe that the MSM is fanning the flames of civil war.
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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 01:12:03 AM »
You need to cite your source JM.  You don't want this place shut down for plagarism and such.  Thats why I always put the full link on anything I bring in. 

Best to make is so it is a click and you are at the original posting of it.

And its a most interesting read.  I shall have to do some contemplation tomorrow.

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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2017, 07:51:12 AM »
I did Nemo, Survivalblog.com.
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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2017, 10:32:57 AM »
Using the search here engine on that website I find:


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No Joy.  Not busting chops or such, but I don't want the plagarism stuff to make here go away.  You need a direct link that goes straight to it.  I cannot find it on the front page or with several searches.

I understand my google fu is lacking but a direct link is a best practices idea.

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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2017, 11:17:05 AM »
Nemo, you have lost me.

I copy & pasted a post by a member of survivalblog.com. I even included a link for the reader to go to to read his post and the following comments.

Moving on.
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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 06:24:04 PM »
Actually it comes from www.survivalistboards.com  Here's the link: http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=665529   As of Monday evening there are 11 pages of comments, so it's a lively discussion.
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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 06:34:15 PM »
That is exactly the cite type I was recommending.

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Re: USA: In the Foot-hill's of a Civil War
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 11:08:06 PM »
They can bring it.  :chuky:
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