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The U.S. military?s fast-approaching Dec. 31 exit from Iraq, which has no way to defend its airspace, puts Israel in a better place strategically to strike Iran?s nuclear facilities.

Iraq has yet to assemble a force of jet fighters, and since the shortest route for Israeli strike fighters to Iran is through Iraqi airspace, observers conclude that the U.S. exit makes the Jewish state?s mission planning a lot easier.

Army Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Buchanan, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said the Iraqi military will maintain radars to monitor the country?s airspace, but it has not taken possession of American F-16s to guard that space.

?The country has a capable and improving capability to see the airspace, a viable system to provide command and control, but no system to defeat incoming air threats until it gets either the F-16s or ground-based systems or, optimally, some of both,? Gen. Buchanan told The Washington Times.

Iraq made the first payment in September for 18 F-16s that will not arrive until next fall at the earliest. This means Israel would have a theoretical window of about 12 months if it wants to fly over Iraq unimpeded by the Iraqi air force.

Retired Air ForceGen. Thomas McInerney, who advocates a U.S. strategic bombing raid to destroy Iran?s nuclear sites, agreed that Iraq?s open airspace would make it easier for an Israeli mission.

?Yes, it will be,? he said. ?However, it will be much easier for Iranian forces to get to Israel through Iraq via land and air.?

Gen. McInerney said he thinks there is a good chance that Iran, stretched economically by Western sanctions and fearing threats from Israel, will launch a war against the Jewish state through Iraq.

?Our departing Iraq will be a huge strategic mistake,? he said of the Dec. 31 deadline for all U.S. forces to leave.

Iraq?s ruling Shiite majority has historic ties to Iran?s dominant Shiite society, but Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has warned Tehran against meddling in his country?s politics.

Unknown is the role of U.S. jet fighters stationed outside Iraq but within striking distance from Navy carriers in the Persian Gulf, or possibly Kuwait.

?I would hope we would jump to defend Iraqi airspace,? said James Carafano, a military analyst at the Heritage Foundation. ?These are the kinds of contingency plans that ought to be put in place.?

Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta, like his predecessor, Robert M. Gates, has downplayed the impact that an airstrike might have on Iran?s quest for an atomic bomb. The Islamic republic has denied that it is trying to make a nuclear weapon.

In an appearance this month at the Brookings Institution, Mr. Panetta said U.S strikes might set back the nuclear program two years and acknowledged that some Iranian targets remain elusive.

?The indication is that, at best, it might postpone it maybe one, possibly two years,? said Mr. Panetta, who also has mentioned three years as a possible delay. ?It depends on the ability to truly get the targets that we?re after. Frankly, some of those targets have been difficult to get at.?




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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 01:48:54 PM »
Interesting article. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 05:14:21 PM »
So there you go.

Israel attach's Iran +
Iran whines to Russia and China +
Russia cuts off natural gas to the EU +
Middle East countries attack Israel with support of Russia and China +
The EU's ? colapses +
The stock market colapses +
The US $ colapses +
Viral inflation +
Protests that lead to +
Riots +
DEM & GOP conventions are chaotic +
China or Russia drop a EMP +
Martial law is declared in large metropolitan area's +
Presidential election is suspended =
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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 05:40:20 PM »
So where in there do you head for the cabin?



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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 07:34:27 PM »
 :))

Using my brother and my Bug Out level guide, we think we are at II+.

My wife and I head out when we hit Level III- or Israel attacks Iran.

I predict winter or early spring 2012.

My wife and I will go before my bro goes to get the garden started. He will sit tight till he looses his job or Bug out Level III / III+ happens. Once he looses his job or bug out level is hit, he will go to the BOL; However his wife is an RN and it will be a challenge to drag her away from her patients.

We have several friends who have been invited to the BOL in case of TEOTWAWKI and they have a SOP too.

Laugh all you guys & gals want however the SOP has been written and will be executed to perfection. I am sure that some sand may be thrown into the cogs but the SOP will be executed  to the best of our abilities.

 
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 07:41:30 PM »
I'm not laughing.  Sounds like you have executable plans that have been thought out.  Good for you JM!



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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 07:48:53 PM »
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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 07:51:25 PM »
:))

Using my brother and my Bug Out level guide, we think we are at II+.

My wife and I head out when we hit Level III- or Israel attacks Iran.

I predict winter or early spring 2012.

My wife and I will go before my bro goes to get the garden started. He will sit tight till he looses his job or Bug out Level III / III+ happens. Once he looses his job or bug out level is hit, he will go to the BOL; However his wife is an RN and it will be a challenge to drag her away from her patients.

We have several friends who have been invited to the BOL in case of TEOTWAWKI and they have a SOP too.

Laugh all you guys & gals want however the SOP has been written and will be executed to perfection. I am sure that some sand may be thrown into the cogs but the SOP will be executed  to the best of our abilities.

 


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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 10:38:11 AM »
:))

Using my brother and my Bug Out level guide, we think we are at II+.

My wife and I head out when we hit Level III- or Israel attacks Iran.

I predict winter or early spring 2012.

My wife and I will go before my bro goes to get the garden started. He will sit tight till he looses his job or Bug out Level III / III+ happens. Once he looses his job or bug out level is hit, he will go to the BOL; However his wife is an RN and it will be a challenge to drag her away from her patients.

We have several friends who have been invited to the BOL in case of TEOTWAWKI and they have a SOP too.

Laugh all you guys & gals want however the SOP has been written and will be executed to perfection. I am sure that some sand may be thrown into the cogs but the SOP will be executed  to the best of our abilities.

 


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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 10:19:06 PM »
Good thing we are getting out now, let the SHTF and lets watch the fire from across the ocean. [img]http://bestsmileys.com/ar <HOME
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 10:28:02 PM »
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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 12:45:45 PM »
I am very interested in this story, I keep surfing the Main Stream looking for the buried article saying that Iran got bombed.

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 01:49:17 PM »
I am very interested in this story, I keep surfing the Main Stream looking for the buried article saying that Iran got bombed.

That would be a tough story to bury TG.  Especially when the Chinese show up on the California beaches.  There would be a whole host of stories complaining about how they were ruining the beaches for playing volley ball, suntanning and surfing with all of their tank and landing craft noise.  And complaining about how you can't even lay on the beach anymore without having sand kicked in your face by some rude Asian guys as they marched by.

Still, even though the beach was unusable you can bet there would be hundreds and hundreds of Californians climbing all over each other.  Each trying to snap pictures of themselves standing next to a group of Chinese soldiers so they could post it on Facebook and Twitter so they could be the envy of all of their friends.

No offense to anyone in Commiefornia.




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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 08:23:13 PM »
Iran gets bombed by Israel = China takes back Tiawan.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 02:55:19 PM »
All these Israel-worshipping Idolaters and war-hawks have no idea how much of a shit-fight a war with Iran would REALLY be.
The thought of it gives me chills.

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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 03:03:36 PM »
All these Israel-worshipping Idolaters and war-hawks have no idea how much of a shit-fight a war with Iran would REALLY be.
The thought of it gives me chills.

At first I was gonna say, "When you get there say hello to the devil for me."  But on second thought, I don't want him to even know I exist.  I've got enough problems.   :)



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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 03:21:25 PM »
It's interesting how I was just told I was going to hell for wanting to stay out of middle eastern politics and not wanting to murder Iranians from 30,000+ feet.

Everyone thinks they know what side they are really on, synagogue of satan my friends, that's all I have to say. You have no idea who you are supporting my friend, at least i support neither of them. Why?
Because they are both EVIL.

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2011, 03:26:37 PM »
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All these Israel-worshipping Idolaters and war-hawks have no idea how much of a shit-fight a war with Iran would REALLY be.

1) I am a Christian I do not worship idols.
2) I support Israel and her right to defend herself.
3) I pray that Israel and/or Iran do not exchange blows. If this happens the ripples will be felt
    around the whole globe. Oil prices, ? colapse to follow with the $ colapse- The list goes on. 

If that makes me a "war-hawk" so be it.

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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 03:32:37 PM »
It's interesting how I was just told I was going to hell for wanting to stay out of middle eastern politics and not wanting to murder Iranians from 30,000+ feet.

Everyone thinks they know what side they are really on, synagogue of satan my friends, that's all I have to say. You have no idea who you are supporting my friend, at least i support neither of them. Why?
Because they are both EVIL.

No offense meant.  LOL!  I was just passing on a message from God!   :)  Actually, I wasn't, I made that up because I couldn't manage to stop myself.  So much for my claims of superhuman self control.   :)
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Re: U.S. to leave Iraqi airspace clear for strategic Israeli route to Iran
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2011, 03:35:53 PM »
1) I am a Christian I do not worship idols.



Not according to the Talmud.
Jews view all Christians as Idolaters, surely you know this?

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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2011, 03:39:59 PM »
1) I am a Christian I do not worship idols.



Not according to the Talmud.
Jews view all Christians as Idolaters, surely you know this?

Say what??  Idolater!  And all of this time I thought they looked at me as a Revenue Source.  I've got to find me a Jew and check this out.



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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2011, 03:47:44 PM »
I am not Jewish I am a Christian. I do not study the Talmud. I wish more Americans in 1938 stood up for the Jewish people.

I was not alive in 1938 however I am today. I will stand up for the Jewish people hopefully others will too.

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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2011, 03:52:31 PM »
I am not Jewish I am a Christian. I do not study the Talmud. I wish more Americans in 1938 stood up for the Jewish people.

I was not alive in 1938 however I am today. I will stand up for the Jewish people hopefully others will too.

In 1938 the jews were a scattered people without a nation.
Now they have a modern nation-state with a hugely proficient military and hundreds of nuclear weapons all built on occupied land.

That's hardly an applicable comparison.
It seriously sounded like you were quoting from one of Glenn Beck's rants rooted deep in his Israelphelia.

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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2011, 03:55:21 PM »
What makes the Israeli's better than your own countrymen?

What makes a person more concerned with the continued existence of a foreign land and a foreign people when his own nation marches headlong towards war and ruin? 

Seems incredibly foolish to me. Just Saying.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2011, 03:56:10 PM »
I am not Jewish I am a Christian. I do not study the Talmud. I wish more Americans in 1938 stood up for the Jewish people.

I was not alive in 1938 however I am today. I will stand up for the Jewish people hopefully others will too.

I'm with you.  I've never heard anyone refer to me as an idolater, but I have been referred to as an infidel.  Which I really have no problem with.  I'm very much pro infidel.

Go Infidels, Yeah Infidels,  Infidels Rule!

Glenn Beck Loves Infidels!

Two bits, four bits, six bit a dollar.  If you're an Infidel stand up and holler!

Well, that was fun.   :)



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