TRUMP? 2A?

[Nemo]

Looks pretty well protected from our point of view.   Gets a Bravo Good Sir, Bravo from me.

I really like the Chris Cox part.  More of the political power aspects without the "big bad gun guy" aspects of Wayne LaPierre.  If this all works out the way Cox can actually make it happen its gonna be worth a second vote for Trump in 4 years on that part alone.

Nemo

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/11/john-boch/ttags-john-boch-trumps-second-amendment-coalition/

TTAG’s John Boch Named To Trump Admin’s Second Amendment Coalition
John Boch, November 10, 2016

The Truth About Guns has a spot in President-elect Donald J. Trump’s new Second Amendment Coalition. I’m looking forward to advising and assisting the Trump transition team and later his administration on gun rights issues in the coming weeks and months as a co-chair of his Second Amendment Coalition team.

Trump is surrounding himself with a lot of good people (if I do say so myself) to help guide his firearms policy decision-making once he takes office. With a Republican-controlled House and Senate, and at least a few Democrats who are pro-gun, I’m looking forward to the Trump team’s work to advance and expand our 2A rights with meaningful legislation in the new year.

The coalition has been in the works for a couple of months now and was quietly announced last week with the new president’s son leading the group. Breitbart picked up on it.

    On November 3 Donald Trump launched the “Second Amendment Coalition,” featuring pro-gun U.S. Congressmen, the NRA-ILA’s Chris Cox, and gun manufacturers like Jesse James and Daniel Defense’s Marty Daniel.

    The coalition is being chaired by Donald Trump Jr., an avid hunter and outspoken defender of the right to keep and bear arms, and Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA.

    Breitbart News has the announcement issued by the Trump/Pence campaign in which co-chairman Donald Jr. introduces the coalition, saying:

    My father defends the Second Amendment, so that you and I and your spouse and your children can take care of themselves when someone much stronger, much meaner and much more vicious than them tries to break into their home. It’s not just a hobby or something I do on the weekends. It’s a lifestyle, and as my father often says, “It’s about self-defense, plain and simple.”

    Chris Cox added:

    This election isn’t about the next four years. It’s about the next forty years, so voting for Hillary Clinton, or not voting, is simply not an option. The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that we have a fundamental, individual right to protect ourselves and our families with a firearm in our own homes. [But] Clinton said, “the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment.’ A Clinton Supreme Court means your right to own a firearm is gone.

 .  .  .

[Erick]

In the same vein the transition team issues the following statement:

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2016/trump-releases-his-plan-for-2nd-amendment-leaves-millions-furious.html

[Nemo]

Seems to me the furious millions are the anti 2A folks.  With Chris Cox running the thing with a son of Trump you can bet your bottom and bottom dollar under it that it will be right.

Nemo

[Well-Prepared Witch]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 

[Nemo]

But on 2A issues, Chris Cox's clock works proper all the time.

Nemo

[JohnyMac]

This should be fun to watch Mr. Trump thread the needle on this subject. After all, Trump is a Progressive Lite NOT a Constitutional Conservative. Remember he supported the original assault weapons ban. The ban that restricted bayonet lugs and movable stocks. LOL. 

On the universal carry subject, I truly do not think it is legal as it takes away states rights as outlined in the 10th Amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In essence, the law if it passes, would end up in front on the SCOTUS. The Constitutional question would be between States rights Vs. a government mandate. This should be fun to watch and if the universal CCW is upheld by the highest court, may even cause a secession by a state or two.

[Kbop]

i wonder if they could claim  that regulating CC at the state level is an impediment under the 2nd amendment?
maybe they'll use the commerce clause and claim that it will stop people from protecting their persons during travel or business.
... Hmmmm, i wonder if i could claim that a 1911 is a religious symbol and therefore protected 

weirder things have happened.
- Social Security tax (FICA) was argued on one side of the government as a 'trust fund' and in front of SCOTUS as a general tax.  This precedent was used with the ACA.
- reproductive rights were upheld as a privacy issue (i still can't find that in the Constitution).
-the 4th and 5th amendments are at odds with the drug asset forfeiture act.
-i'm not even gonna start with taxing the proceeds of labor or the 'special' courts for taxation issues.
-Heck, we have redefined corporations as people with the rights of citizens.  (i can't wait to see that one evolve).
anything is possible.  Just re-define it a little, pick a different dictionary or capitalize a "P". 
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_person 

[JoJo]

This should be fun to watch Mr. Trump thread the needle on this subject. After all, Trump is a Progressive Lite NOT a Constitutional Conservative. Remembered he supported the original assault weapons ban. The ban that restricted antenna lugs and movable stocks. LOL. 

On the universal carry subject, I truly do not think it is legal as it takes away states rights as outlined in the 10th Amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In essence, the law if it passes, would end up in front on the SCOTUS. The Constitutional question would be between States rights Vs. a government mandate. This should be fun to watch and if the universal CCW is upheld by the highest court, may even cause a secession by a state or two.


 

 Remember when Texas wanted to secede and obama said he would stop all flights to Texas. I don't think any state but Texas would have the chutzpa to try.



Edit: Fixed quote box. ~ s-k

[Nemo]

The ban that restricted antenna lugs

Mine have hard mounted antenna.  It has lugs but they have nuts on them like on wheels. 

Nemo

[Nemo]

This should be fun to watch Mr. Trump thread the needle on this subject. After all, Trump is a Progressive Lite NOT a Constitutional Conservative. Remembered he supported the original assault weapons ban. The ban that restricted antenna lugs and movable stocks. LOL. 

On the universal carry subject, I truly do not think it is legal as it takes away states rights as outlined in the 10th Amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In essence, the law if it passes, would end up in front on the SCOTUS. The Constitutional question would be between States rights Vs. a government mandate. This should be fun to watch and if the universal CCW is upheld by the highest court, may even cause a secession by a state or two.

 Remember when Texas wanted to secede and obama said he would stop all flights to Texas. I don't think any state but Texas would have the chutzpa to try.

Not really a states rights issue.  BoR sets minimum standards which all states must meet.  If states want do more protecting they can but must comply with what SC says minimum is.  More state protecting does not apply to Fed charges either.

Proper SCOTUS could easily say yes, keep and bear is to all, no card needed, anywhere but a few specific places (K-12 school, court, jail etc) and a few specific disabling (felony convict, etc) things.  But felony could be overruled and convict permitted to carry.  That restriction came about IIRC in the 68* 1938 Gun Control Act.  Could be that states are permitted to determine only open or concealed and could vary between states.

Nemo

*edit by me, now correct


Edit: Fixed quote box. ~ s-k

Glad you did, I looked but could not figure out how.