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Offline JohnyMac

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Trump's National Emergency
« on: February 16, 2019, 10:41:04 AM »
As Mr. Trump declares a National Emergency on the border and the MSM (Main stream media) acts like this has never happened before, I thought I would look into the use of this tool that all Presidents have had since it became law in the late 1970's.

The following Presidents used this law....

> Mr. Carter 1 time,
> Mr. Reagan zero times,
> Mr. Clinton 6 times,
> Mr. Bush 11 times,
> Mr. Obama 10 times, and
> Mr. Trump 1 time.

Here is a list of Mr. Obama's National Emergency's:

19. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia (Apr. 12, 2010)

20. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya (Feb. 25, 2011)

21. Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations (Jul. 25, 2011)

22. Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen (May 16, 2012)

23. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine (Mar. 6, 2014)

24. Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan (Apr. 3, 2014)

25. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic (May 12, 2014)

26. Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela (Mar. 9, 2015)

27. Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities (Apr. 1, 2015)

28. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi (Nov. 23, 2015)

My point in posting these stats is to demonstrate to the UP readers to be careful in what you read and or listen to from our media. Whether they lean towards the left or right. Do your own research. Do not be a pawn in this fight.

Now just a quick opinion from old JohnyMac. When the left apposes one of Trump's actions they are not apposing him but the men and women who voted him into office. The end goal is to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters who at least today, are staunch supporters with his approval being at 52%.

Again, these actions by Rep, Pelosi, and Sen. Schumer is directed at YOU.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2019, 10:43:01 AM by JohnyMac »
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 11:28:37 AM »
   Pelosi and Schumer should be hung as traitors.  They're not concerned about the security of the nation, rather they're interested in obtaining new voters for the Democrat party.  Party interests come before national interests for those two.  They've broken their oaths of office so many times that it's a joke. Hang 'em high!

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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2019, 12:25:59 PM »
Agreed Jackalope.  :bravo:

I will also add to your comment, the 5-6 DOJ jokers who tried to execute on a silent coup should be grand jury-ied and tried for treason if the jury deems it so. 
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2019, 01:25:33 PM »
Agreed Jackalope.  :bravo:

I will also add to your comment, the 5-6 DOJ jokers who tried to execute on a silent coup should be grand jury-ied and tried for treason if the jury deems it so.

I doubt any thing will happen and even if there is an investigation it will result in absolutely nothing being done to the criminals. The deep state is too deep and Trump NEEDS to stop giving jobs to the establishment scum because they are making everything worse.

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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2019, 02:43:29 PM »
 Pelosi and Shumer are fighting for a twofer. More illegal voters and to deny President Trump A win. They know if the President builds the wall he will win in 2020.
 My opinion is the new AG Barr will go after all of those connected with the silent coup except Mueler his friend.   

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Trump NEEDS to stop giving jobs to the establishment scum because they are making everything worse.

True to a point. Most of his first appointees were outsiders and most flubbed it. It wasn't until he got a few insiders that he found out who his enemies were. He learned a hard lesson.   
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2019, 03:11:45 PM »
Pelosi and Shumer are fighting for a twofer. More illegal voters and to deny President Trump A win. They know if the President builds the wall he will win in 2020.
 My opinion is the new AG Barr will go after all of those connected with the silent coup except Mueler his friend.   

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Trump NEEDS to stop giving jobs to the establishment scum because they are making everything worse.

True to a point. Most of his first appointees were outsiders and most flubbed it. It wasn't until he got a few insiders that he found out who his enemies were. He learned a hard lesson.

He just nominated Barr, I dont think he has learned yet
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2019, 08:14:41 PM »
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He just nominated Barr, I dont think he has learned yet

 I have some doubts about Barr also but you have to realize after the treatment to Kavenaugh no one wants to be treated that way so he had to chose Barr. Why, because he isn't afraid of of the democrats and he has an almost stellar record.
 The big problem in DC is everyone knows everyone.
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2019, 09:40:03 PM »
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He just nominated Barr, I dont think he has learned yet

 I have some doubts about Barr also but you have to realize after the treatment to Kavenaugh no one wants to be treated that way so he had to chose Barr. Why, because he isn't afraid of of the democrats and he has an almost stellar record.
 The big problem in DC is everyone knows everyone.

Except when it comes to law abiding Americans owning guns and his ties to the bush's/establishment/deep state
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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2019, 02:33:06 PM »
i found it interesting that National Emergencies don't seem to have any time constraints - most emergencies do.
59 National Emergencies have been declared since 1976. - this date selected due to a change in the law.
30 are still in effect.

just for a clear field of information - Trump has declared 4.
three were in executive orders.  one was a proclamation.

Obama used one proclamation and 11 by executive order.

Reagan had 6.

my criteria are events filed under the 1976 National Emergencies Act. I got varying numbers from several sources so i went to .gov and found some are classified and not listed.  I also found that some of the lists didn't qualify them based on who initiated the continuing declaration.  The numbers are a bit fuzzy.

i can draw one conclusion here - what President Trump is doing is rare but certainly not unique or unpresidented. 

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Re: Trump's National Emergency
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2019, 08:29:47 PM »
It will be a interesting drama to follow Kbop.  :popcorn:



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