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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 02:34:11 PM »
Jmac i dont see anything wrong with you not wanting Cliven to represent you. I didnt want him representing me before I went, while I was there, or when I got home. Cliven dosent even like being the talking head. Simply put, nobody better has stepped up to the plate. If you think a job needs to be done and nobody is doing it, YOU do it. Very easily the situation could be taken over by a well spoken person and handled in a more national way. As of yet nobody has the balls. Cliven is trying his best to speak for the people. In every public speech he has given that ive seen he asks the crowd if what hes asked or said is in fact what the people want.

I was very vocal about my reasons for being out there. It was not for Cliven. Protecting him and getting his cattle back was and continues to be nothing more then the vessel to which we interact with the feds. We needed something they wanted. Otherwise wed just be a bunch of idiots loitering on BLM land with nobody really caring.

I do not want Cliven representing me, however im not a highschool kid who gets embarrassed by my mom hugging me. I do not care what people sitting on their ass think of me. They're glued to the couch. At best they might write a strongly worded letter to their representatives in between TV shows. Obviously that will go straight in "Secretary read if you have nothing better to do" pile. So who cares what the motionless think? Just make sure the movement is going in the right direction. Images are for celebrities to worry about. Im not in this for the money or fame.

I apologize if im repeating myself but I feel like the concept is not being grasped.
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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2014, 09:26:00 AM »
Thank you again for getting off your tosh and going to support Cliven Bundy and his war with the Feds. If I was close by I would have too.

I can relate to how you feel as it is easy to armchair quarterback from your comfy chair with a cup of coffee at hand. Not like you along with other folks here on the forum, I have attended countless Pro 2A, Tea Party and Impeach Obama protests and rally's. It is always frustrating seeing the same people at those events and the crowds not getting larger. Yet, people who never attend events analyses our efforts and are quick to point out our faults.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Ken, thank you for taking the time to analysis, then differentiate your support of Mr. Bundy's courageous stand against the BLM and the miss guided words he used to draw a comparison to his stand.
 

   
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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2014, 11:23:40 PM »
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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 11:30:34 PM »
Some explanation to who the two militia guys are in the video above. They both came from New Hampshire. They arrived late evening on the Saturday after the standoff occurred. I only had a couple conversations with Jerry delemus,  one of which was about him crashing his truck into my car lol... but he seemed to be one of the brighter guys in the group. There is currently a divide in the militia. I think it is because guys like Jerry are being real and not putting up with the bogus panic mindset of many guys. I am totally with him on it. I took down his number so I can get the truth on the ground. Ive since been cutoff by the OathKeepers aswell as the guy I worked very closely with the 4 days I was there. All because ive stated only facts via Facebook and called out bullshit when ive seen it. For the record the OathKeepers are pussies and they have now retreated under threat twice. They all ran to hotels yesterday over the supposed threat of drone strikes.... lol... some OathKeepers ripped off their patches and stayed as I understand it.
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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2014, 12:35:05 PM »
Ken, thx for sharing the video - I liked it! Finally some good propaganda coming out about Bunkerville. If you think Jerry is a guy I should know, would you introduce me to him? Heck NH, is just a nice drive from RI.

Interesting developments between the two factions. This kind of thing happens often when a movement starts out. Remember that Gen. Greene and Gen. Washington where always at odds. Greene was really pissed that he was not made Gen. of the Army by Congress.

I go back to my original premise, that there has to be a "pay book" for these type of encounters. A playbook would limit division within the ranks.

 "If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand." Mark 3:25
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Re: Cliven Bundy - Racist?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2014, 08:57:48 PM »
Some explanation to who the two militia guys are in the video above. They both came from New Hampshire. They arrived late evening on the Saturday after the standoff occurred. I only had a couple conversations with Jerry delemus,  one of which was about him crashing his truck into my car lol... but he seemed to be one of the brighter guys in the group. There is currently a divide in the militia. I think it is because guys like Jerry are being real and not putting up with the bogus panic mindset of many guys. I am totally with him on it. I took down his number so I can get the truth on the ground. Ive since been cutoff by the OathKeepers aswell as the guy I worked very closely with the 4 days I was there. All because ive stated only facts via Facebook and called out bullshit when ive seen it. For the record the OathKeepers are pussies and they have now retreated under threat twice. They all ran to hotels yesterday over the supposed threat of drone strikes.... lol... some OathKeepers ripped off their patches and stayed as I understand it.
Can you please elaborate on the militia divide? What kind of bs was OK not taking kindly to?