Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: special-k on October 03, 2013, 02:46:31 PM
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http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/u-s-capitol-on-lockdown-94855.html (http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/u-s-capitol-on-lockdown-94855.html)
EDIT: Live updates >>> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/live-updates-capitol-shooting-94856.html (http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/live-updates-capitol-shooting-94856.html)
EDIT 2: Live local video >>> http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/277355/44/Shots-Fired-At-Dirksen-Building-Capitol-Building-on-Lockdown (http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/277355/44/Shots-Fired-At-Dirksen-Building-Capitol-Building-on-Lockdown)
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Well that didn't take very long. Sure is getting to be an interesting week.
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And another Executive Order in 3...2...1...
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3:06 PM: Police tell ABC7's Jennifer Donelan that the incident reportedly started when an unidentified woman tried to drive through a barricade at the White House. She had a baby in the back seat of her vehicle. The woman fled the area and ended up at the Capitol, where she tried to drive through another barricade.
Authorities opened fire on the vehicle, killing the woman, authorities say.
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It's John Boehner, he ran out of tanning gel, and freaked. :sarcasm:
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Okay, let me get this straight...
The black car (suspect) supposedly RAMMED A BARRICADE, and then T-BONED A POLICE CRUISER causing major damage to the cruiser subsequently sending the officer to the hospital via helicopter. HOWEVER, the frontal view (video) of the black car SHOWS ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE from either of the collisions!!! Standby for incoming still pics (when I find some) if you have not seen the videos of which I speak.
EDIT: After closer inspection I can see minor damage to the front left fender from the initial barricade collision. But there is still no sign of a t-boning that would cause the damage seen on the cruiser.
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That video made the secret service look weak. One crazy lady caused that much chaos with no gun...
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That video made the secret service look weak. One crazy lady caused that much chaos with no gun...
Stopping crazy is almost impossible.
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I have to say I am impressed by the restraint shown by law enforcement in the video with protest lady. I suspect the child was seen and fire on the escaping vehicle seemed to be held for quite a while. Very curious how this turns out.
Car chase ends with shooting in Washington D.C. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyszhTz8fQ4#)
I was kinda hoping benny hill music would start playing and she continued driving around the circle. I probably ain't quite right in the head though.
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I'm thinking obama wasn't home. You'd think they would nuke a car doing that near the president.
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Shots fired on capitol hill - RAW VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03AgMpc8z0#)
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I know I read everyone was directed inside the building. Seems more like one guy ran so the whole heard went.
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You know I really don't give a shit!
How many people are killed in Chicago every day/week? Detroit? St. Louise? Philly? .....
We have Sirius radio up at the cabin and we listed to Fox starting with the Five each night (No cable) and turn it off after Bills first 20 minutes. Well pretty much starting at 6:00PM that's all we heard. A wacko lady in DC. did some wacko stuff. :facepalm: WHO FLIPPEN CARES!
I think I figured it out. The folks in Washington DC think the world revolves around THEM. They need to get a dose of reality for Christ sake! That is what the problem is there. Don't "they" realize we think they are a bunch of turds? Dem's and Rep's alike. :facepalm:
I am done my rant now. ::)
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It's natural that some lady flipping out by the capitol makes more headlines than same lady flipping out in her neighborhood. At least the kid is okay, last I heard. It's the age of post-911, the threat of bad guys doing bad things is omnipresent, no matter how manufactured said threat is/was.
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So did she come out of the car blazing or did they kill her for failure to stop? There was no gun or threat presented besides the car (which was supposedly stopped) when they killed her. Last time I saw the driving loop on FOXNEWS at 2:00OPM PT they had no info on the way it ended.
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So did she come out of the car blazing or did they kill her for failure to stop? There was no gun or threat presented besides the car (which was supposedly stopped) when they killed her.
Armchair quarterbacking is great, isn't it? If only the Capitol cops on the scene had such foresight. :facepalm:
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How is asking a question of the circumstances of the time she was killed "armchair quarterbacking"?
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The woman tries to run over the police with her car, that is use of deadly force.
I saw previous videos of drivers getting ventilated because of doing that, there is a very famous one of a red car filmed from a chopper.
To be honest with you guys, I don't see anything special about this case, just another day in the crazy as fuck US.
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How is asking a question of the circumstances of the time she was killed "armchair quarterbacking"?
Your 'question' sounded more like a statement, than a question.
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APX, that's exactly what I was asking. Did she get killed for failure to stop (i.e. threatening with car) or did she emerge with a gun.
The only picture the news was showing was the car stopped and her gone already from being shot.
So I ask the question again... did they stop the car by shooting her as she was using it as DF (at that moment, not previously) or was the car disabled and they shot her in place when she had no other weapon?
@crudos, if I want to make a statement I will do so. I phrased it as a question for a reason... it was.
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Your question has no answer yet, and there is no video showing what she may or may not have done after she speed away the first time. Guess we'll have to wait for the police report like all the other plebs.
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OK, thanks for the update. I knew the Chief was going to hold another press conference at 6:00ET but never heard about anything new. Will likely be days before we know.
I find it interesting that the officers where able to shoot at the vehicle as it drove off but not when it was confronting them. Killing up close is never easy, shooting at a fleeing target gives a mental relief in that there is a possible chance that you won't kill them and you are shooting at a car, not the face of the driver in it at that moment.
Point being... if it was not warranted to kill her as she started to escape, it was not as the car was driving away.
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DVC, You got a bad habit of asking a question then answering it.
Work on that.
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Only because you are too slow to answer. At least I'm not providing my own peanut gallery yet, so there is still a place for you here TG. :)
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Thanks for your permission DVC, I live to satisfy.
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I didn't give permission, I'm just not ready to run the whole show yet. :)
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Only because you are too slow to answer. At least I'm not providing my own peanut gallery yet, so there is still a place for you here TG. :)
Good move on your part DVC. From what I've been able to ascertain TG's pee nuts are huge and most probably made of steel. He's a hell of a guy, not sure why you'd be busting his chops for amusement.
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DVC, You got a bad habit of asking a question then answering it.
Work on that.
Busting chops? It wasn't me that dished it out. I mean what is that suppose to mean and why not explain it via PM?
I just re-read the rules as JohnnyMac asked me to via PM...
3. Displaying blatant disrespect or otherwise negative behavior targeting other members, including racist, sexist, religious or political attacks.
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I have been drinking but I see no fault from DVC. There is an agenda in his writings but there's nothing wrong with that. As far as his observation of not shooting until the threat is leaving I agree. Shoot now or don't shoot. There's your target... what are you waiting for. The vibe I got was that cop was hoping merely showing the driver his gun would make her give up. He was not prepared to kill. He popped a few purposely missed rounds to save face as she drove off.
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I have been drinking but I see no fault from DVC. There is an agenda in his writings but there's nothing wrong with that. As far as his observation of not shooting until the threat is leaving I agree. Shoot now or don't shoot. There's your target... what are you waiting for. The vibe I got was that cop was hoping merely showing the driver his gun would make her give up. He was not prepared to kill. He popped a few purposely missed rounds to save face as she drove off.
No doubt. You two seem to be a lot alike in personality. I enjoy reading both of your posts. There are certainly some strong personalities on here.
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Yeah, about that... I'd like to interrupt this thread to say that I'm not trying to piss people off with my "attitude" on the forum. I admit that I'm a very opinionated person that has a low tolerance for hypocrisy and ignorance. I will consider it a challenge to covey my thoughts in a more "kumbaya" manner in the future. Sarcasm aside, I do plan to work on it. :) ... we now return you to the crazy dead woman in DC, no it is not Pelosi.
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Yeah, about that... I'd like to interrupt this thread to say that I'm not trying to piss people off with my "attitude" on the forum. I admit that I'm a very opinionated person that has a low tolerance for hypocrisy and ignorance. I will consider it a challenge to covey my thoughts in a more "kumbaya" manner in the future. Sarcasm aside, I do plan to work on it. :) ... we now return you to the crazy dead woman in DC, no it is not Pelosi.
+1 karma next time I'm not surfing via tapatalk.
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In all fairness I did start it. :P
For I too am intolerant.
Aside I do agree that the time to shoot was when she was running over people, not after. Running over a Cop/SS Agent/Other isn't grounds for summary execution... Preservation of human life is another story, it would take a hard SOB to stand there squirting rounds at her instead of securing his own escape.
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Aside I do agree that the time to shoot was when she was running over people, not after. Running over a Cop/SS Agent/Other isn't grounds for summary execution... Preservation of human life is another story, it would take a hard SOB to stand there squirting rounds at her instead of securing his own escape.
I understand the cops shooting to save their lives. What confuses me about this one is that they killed her when she was in the barricades. Also, that the news said that there were 20 cars chasing her. They couldn't trap her vehicle with 20 cop cars?
I understand someone trying to kill you with a car isn't any different than the same person trying to kill you with a gun. They are just using a different tool. I'm just struck with the feeling that this one could have ended differently. Poor whacko lady, poor motherless child.
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We are all a bunch of opinionated guys, but we need to try to communicate in the more polite and constructive way possible to avoid pointless confrontations and focus on sharing our opinions and nice tips, I'm glad after reading the last posts it seems we are all in the same page :thumbsUp:
Well, about the woman getting shoot, as far as I know she was ventilated not because of fucking up the pillars but because of this:
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/lDPuBxbasiapxnYbPoU8eg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQyMTtweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz03NDk-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/c51350e054c62d213f0f6a7067004647.jpg)
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Yep, that picture is something. Has anyone seen any footage of just how that occurred? And if another car did that kind of damage to that one, how did it roll away so that it isn't in the picture?
I wonder if we'll ever find out what was going through her head?
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I wonder if we'll ever find out what was going through her head?
The autopsy will show. Should we place bets on the caliber?
Too soon?
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I wonder if we'll ever find out what was going through her head?
The autopsy will show. Should we place bets on the caliber?
Too soon?
$1.00
Fooooooooooorty short and weak...
... but not too weak apparently.
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I got a buck says it's a party mix of 10mm and 40S&W.
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I got a buck says it's a party mix of 10mm and 40S&W.
Come on, no .357 Sig?
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Put me down $1.00 for 40 SW
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So it seems that eye witness reports are saying the car was stopped when they opened the door and murdered the unarmed woman.
At least that's what I've heard on the news so far. No explanation as to what they perceived as a threat at the time of the fatal shooting.
Seems awfully slow getting an official report out of the cops on this one. It's been 3 days?
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I have to tell you guys that taking my comment wondering what was going through that poor woman's head and turning it into a "fun time" event is pretty FUCKING cold and make me wish that I hadn't posting anything. Actually, it's pretty disgusting.
For the record, in addition to the normal police investigation, so many concerns from police experts across the country have been raised about protocols that weren't followed that there is going to be a special investigation of capitol police actions in this case.
This ill woman wasn't shooting back, my gut from everything that I've read and seen tells me she shouldn't have been executed. Apparently, I'm not the only one who see this. Of course in the end, as all police investigations do, it will come out as a justified execution.
It really pains me when you guys start acting like fucking assholes. Does that count as an attack needing mod action. Fuck it, I really don't care anymore.
I'm pretty disgusted right now.
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Postpartum depression is a mental state caused by a chemical imbalance that happens to some women after pregnancy. A gland , or several glands continue to produce chemicals even though her body knows it's not still pregnant.
My mother went through it once. It makes the woman act in ways she normally wouldn't. It passes with time after the glands finally realize they aren't supposed to be going full throttle any longer.
One of my daughters is pregnant now. If she goes through postpartum depression and some jerk decides she's crazy and puts a bullet in her head, there would be consequences for that son of a bitch.
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I have to tell you guys that taking my comment wondering what was going through that poor woman's head and turning it into a "fun time" event is pretty FUCKING cold and make me wish that I hadn't posting anything. Actually, it's pretty disgusting.
For the record, in addition to the normal police investigation, so many concerns from police experts across the country have been raised about protocols that weren't followed that there is going to be a special investigation of capitol police actions in this case.
This ill woman wasn't shooting back, my gut from everything that I've read and seen tells me she shouldn't have been executed. Apparently, I'm not the only one who see this. Of course in the end, as all police investigations do, it will come out as a justified execution.
It really pains me when you guys start acting like fucking assholes. Does that count as an attack needing mod action. Fuck it, I really don't care anymore.
I'm pretty disgusted right now.
Understandable, some of us are callous assholes. The reasons vary but you are spot on and in the end you are the example of what we should be. Thanks for calling me out. That said I predict it will happen again, something about old dogs and new tricks comes to mind. None the less feel free to call me on it anytime.
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I have to tell you guys that taking my comment wondering what was going through that poor woman's head and turning it into a "fun time" event is pretty FUCKING cold and make me wish that I hadn't posting anything. Actually, it's pretty disgusting.
For the record, in addition to the normal police investigation, so many concerns from police experts across the country have been raised about protocols that weren't followed that there is going to be a special investigation of capitol police actions in this case.
This ill woman wasn't shooting back, my gut from everything that I've read and seen tells me she shouldn't have been executed. Apparently, I'm not the only one who see this. Of course in the end, as all police investigations do, it will come out as a justified execution.
It really pains me when you guys start acting like fucking assholes. Does that count as an attack needing mod action. Fuck it, I really don't care anymore.
I'm pretty disgusted right now.
Understandable, some of us are callous assholes. The reasons vary but you are spot on and in the end you are the example of what we should be. Thanks for calling me out. That said I predict it will happen again, something about old dogs and new tricks comes to mind. None the less feel free to call me on it anytime.
This goes for me, too. I sometimes forget to think of these events as happening to real people, and as such they just become a "thing" that happens. Purely subjective, in my mind, sometimes. I don't really think of it lightly...however I also don't need to let my words run without that filter. Thanks for making your voice heard, Sledge.
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Being I'm the fucking asshole who started the joke I better make a statement. My gut reaction is to get defensive and say there's nothing wrong with what I said for X amount of reasons. But since I didn't say anything important I really don't care to defend it. Sledge you clearly feel much stronger against my comment then I am for it. With all that said all I will say is I'm sorry it offended you sledge. I will try to be more aware of other users when typing on UP.com .
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Well now...I go away for a couple of hours and we go from crass comments to hide our feeling's of horror to where we realized we stepped on our dicks with what we wrote.
One thing to understand is that we are all living in a world that didn't exist 10, 20 or more years ago. As we navigate through these times, it is good that we have friends to point out our foo-Pa's and then to guide us.
I trust you guys immensely and (In no particular order so get over your selves) TG, Sledge, APX, Rah, DVC, Ken, Colombo, etc, I would share a fox hole with each one of you anytime! :gunner:
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Let me guess... FNG gets to dig it first. :)
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Let me guess... FNG gets to dig it first. :)
Ever seen it any other way? :dancingBanana:
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Nope. Wouldn't have it any other way either. RHIP