Joe Biden is an original, and genuine, unlike Ryan. Don't think his demeanor will effect much, most people know that is how Joe is, for better or for worse. Thought the moderator did a great job on keeping the debate on-track and try to steer things back into the land of facts from sloganville. My new name for Ryan is, Paul "Not Very Specific" Ryan. My opinion of Ryan was pretty low before this, but glad this shows to the rest of the nation that Ryan is just another wannabe slick Washington insider, short on ideas, long on rhetoric. My dream ticket would be Gary Johnson and Joe Biden. Biden kicked ass, Obama could take a lesson from that.