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REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« on: January 22, 2020, 10:05:55 AM »
First, as I have written, I thank the good Lord for looking over all at this years Lobby Day/2A Rally in Richmond Virginia. Thank you.

The folks who attended this years event are touting a victory. At first glance they are right till you look at what the FLEO (Federal Law Enforcement Officer) got. In essence a shiton of intelligence. 

Intelligence on...Organizers, logistics, comms, cell phones, frequencies used, tactics, face recognition, et cetera. Just wait till when the Virginia Red Flag laws go into affect. Will the men and women who attended this event and those that were smart enough to stay away take it to the local LEO's and FLEO's who are driving to or from a gun confiscation.

This thought aligns directly with a guest article put out by Historian today over at American Partisan.

Enjoy...
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/guest-post-reflections-on-the-richmond-rally-by-historian/
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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 11:15:53 AM »
First, as I have written, I thank the good Lord for looking over all at this years Lobby Day/2A Rally in Richmond Virginia. Thank you.

The folks who attended this years event are touting a victory.

     Well it was a moral victory for those patriots that did indeed attend the festivities.  It showed to the world that 2nd Amendment supporters do want a peaceful resolution to the political machinations of the Democrats.  So, it was good PR.

     On the other hand, it was an intelligence trove for the State.  As one of the commenters to Historian's piece noted, all those who attended the event should be considered compromised electronically.  In the event the Virginia situation goes kinetic, everyone who was at the event will immediately be considered an enemy of the State.  Think about that for a minute.  The State will be looking at all associates of the Lobby Day attendees.  The NSA doesn't have all that processing power for show, they will use it.

     What exactly did the Lobby Day event accomplish?  I guess we'll know in a few days if the good PR is worth anything. 

     My gut feeling is the Democrats are going to continue to push their agenda.  Laws infringing on rights will be passed.  Will they be enforced?   A certain percentage of Law Enforcement will enforce the new laws, because they're "following orders".  Remember, those Statist enforcers have to sleep somewhere, and they have families.  Fourth generation warfare is not kind to Statists, and I'm afraid that's what we'll see as Virginian politicians continue to stir the pot.

     For the patriots that attended the event, they should savor the positive feelings of accomplishment.  Savor them now before the bitter taste of new gun control laws are rammed down your throats.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 03:55:18 PM »
it reminds me of the old saying

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 05:15:14 PM »
it reminds me of the old saying

An armed society is a polite society

Actually the quote goes,  “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

Heinlein is one of my favorite authors, I've been reading his works over 50 years, and he still makes sense.  His novel "Starship Troopers" outlines his concept of citizenship and duty, the film with the same title didn't adhere closely to his beliefs, but it was acceptable.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2020, 01:10:01 AM »
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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 06:09:30 PM »
First, as I have written, I thank the good Lord for looking over all at this years Lobby Day/2A Rally in Richmond Virginia. Thank you.

The folks who attended this years event are touting a victory.

     Well it was a moral victory for those patriots that did indeed attend the festivities.  It showed to the world that 2nd Amendment supporters do want a peaceful resolution to the political machinations of the Democrats.  So, it was good PR.

     On the other hand, it was an intelligence trove for the State.  As one of the commenters to Historian's piece noted, all those who attended the event should be considered compromised electronically.  In the event the Virginia situation goes kinetic, everyone who was at the event will immediately be considered an enemy of the State.  Think about that for a minute.  The State will be looking at all associates of the Lobby Day attendees.  The NSA doesn't have all that processing power for show, they will use it.

     What exactly did the Lobby Day event accomplish?  I guess we'll know in a few days if the good PR is worth anything. 

     My gut feeling is the Democrats are going to continue to push their agenda.  Laws infringing on rights will be passed.  Will they be enforced?   A certain percentage of Law Enforcement will enforce the new laws, because they're "following orders".  Remember, those Statist enforcers have to sleep somewhere, and they have families.  Fourth generation warfare is not kind to Statists, and I'm afraid that's what we'll see as Virginian politicians continue to stir the pot.

     For the patriots that attended the event, they should savor the positive feelings of accomplishment.  Savor them now before the bitter taste of new gun control laws are rammed down your throats.

This is exactly how the left would want us to be discouraged from OUR activism.

If we cower in fear every time we need to Demonstrate then well NEVER demonstrate.. and hand the streets to the left.
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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2020, 06:13:53 PM »
First, as I have written, I thank the good Lord for looking over all at this years Lobby Day/2A Rally in Richmond Virginia. Thank you.

The folks who attended this years event are touting a victory. At first glance they are right till you look at what the FLEO (Federal Law Enforcement Officer) got. In essence a shiton of intelligence. 

Intelligence on...Organizers, logistics, comms, cell phones, frequencies used, tactics, face recognition, et cetera. Just wait till when the Virginia Red Flag laws go into affect. Will the men and women who attended this event and those that were smart enough to stay away take it to the local LEO's and FLEO's who are driving to or from a gun confiscation.

This thought aligns directly with a guest article put out by Historian today over at American Partisan.

Enjoy...
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/guest-post-reflections-on-the-richmond-rally-by-historian/

This kind of thinking basically abdicates all our 1st amendment right because... the bad guys might not like it.. Well guess what.. they will always hate us....
One should always act in a way that if everyone acted the same way the country would be better.

These kind of demos are a powerful tool to show the undecideds that is it ok to not agree with the left.. its normal even..
This is the primary way to fight.

As for the fear "Oh noes.. I went to the Demo.. now they cna red Flag me.. I need to put my own self interests about that of the country"

If everybody worries about keeping a low profile.. yes then you might be the last one they come for... but they will still come.
Only if we all stand up can we hope to defeat the left.
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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 08:03:25 PM »
First, as I have written, I thank the good Lord for looking over all at this years Lobby Day/2A Rally in Richmond Virginia. Thank you.

The folks who attended this years event are touting a victory.

     Well it was a moral victory for those patriots that did indeed attend the festivities.  It showed to the world that 2nd Amendment supporters do want a peaceful resolution to the political machinations of the Democrats.  So, it was good PR.

     On the other hand, it was an intelligence trove for the State.  As one of the commenters to Historian's piece noted, all those who attended the event should be considered compromised electronically.  In the event the Virginia situation goes kinetic, everyone who was at the event will immediately be considered an enemy of the State.  Think about that for a minute.  The State will be looking at all associates of the Lobby Day attendees.  The NSA doesn't have all that processing power for show, they will use it.

     What exactly did the Lobby Day event accomplish?  I guess we'll know in a few days if the good PR is worth anything. 

     My gut feeling is the Democrats are going to continue to push their agenda.  Laws infringing on rights will be passed.  Will they be enforced?   A certain percentage of Law Enforcement will enforce the new laws, because they're "following orders".  Remember, those Statist enforcers have to sleep somewhere, and they have families.  Fourth generation warfare is not kind to Statists, and I'm afraid that's what we'll see as Virginian politicians continue to stir the pot.

     For the patriots that attended the event, they should savor the positive feelings of accomplishment.  Savor them now before the bitter taste of new gun control laws are rammed down your throats.

This is exactly how the left would want us to be discouraged from OUR activism.

If we cower in fear every time we need to Demonstrate then well NEVER demonstrate.. and hand the streets to the left.

     I'm not advocating cowering in fear.  Historically demonstrations have not accomplished much, for a recent example look at Hong Kong, or the Parisian demonstrations over the past year.  Why be active in a kill zone, while demonstrating?   Why make it easy for the State to identify possible suspects?
 
     At some point the State is going to go kinetic, and those demonstrators will be easy targets, both physically and psychologically.  What happens at next year's Lobby Day, after the Democrats have passed their new gun control laws?  Will these demonstrators practice civil disobedience?  I doubt it.  Most will stay home and grumble.

     These demonstrators should think ahead.  Think about Fourth Generational Warfare.   Lone wolf soldiers will be the true activists who actually accomplish something.   If they practice good OPSEC they might even survive the coming ordeal.  Participating in demonstrations is not good OPSEC.  But what do I know?  I'm just another dude behind the keyboard.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 09:24:08 PM »
I really think no significant intelligence could have been gathered there that was not already known.  With possible exception of details on rifles built on stripped lowers.

I have no doubt most gun shows are filmed, at least entrances.  I am confident there is more intelligence on each of us now than we could ever comprehend.

If I do make a list as a potential freedom loving American believer in the original purposes and intents of those guys 250 years ago and that list causes me problems, I accept those problems willingly.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 10:00:23 PM »
Jackalope and my thinking's are in step with each other.

If you attended great! Did you leave your cell phone at home and bring a burner like I suggested? Did you notice that your cell phone battery life took a hit while there? That was your phone trying overtime to get a signal and breaking through the RF it was experiencing. Do a search for Stingray & Kingfish used in the Sandbox.

First you gather the cell phone IP address of the target (s). Then you send in a Recon Team to wait for the IP address to ping. Then you squeeze the trigger of your Remington 700/.300 mag or drop a Hellfire on the owner holding the phone. Then skedaddle to the pickup Lat/Lon 5-miles away to be extracted. Think Soleimani.

Jump ahead to when the Red Flag Laws go into affect in VA. and 51% of some committee decides you should not have an ugly black gun and sends out some folks to take them away from you. They know where you are 24/7 because they have your phones IP address, license plate, face recognition photo's, etc.   

Just saying...

You want to know how to counter these raids??? Read John Ross's Unintended Consequences, Tim Pat Coogan's, The IRA, or Martin Dillon's Dirty War. The time for protesting and voting in the right people has passed. See how that worked last year in VA. or the current 2A rally. I will take a bet from anyone, that the laws will all be passed in the next 3-months.

Get trained. Get in shape. Work on your 3B's. Have a plan. Get your deer rifle sighted in.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2020, 11:36:24 PM »
Some think I have stuff stashed all over the place.  Really I just had to sell it all to help pay for scripts and all that kind of stuff.

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Re: REFLECTIONS ON THE RICHMOND RALLY, BY HISTORIAN
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 07:51:08 AM »
 :lmfao: :lmfao: Nemo!
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