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Back Door Run on the ?
« on: January 11, 2012, 09:23:01 AM »
Just ran across this article talking about the back door run on the ?: http://www.investorplace.com/2011/12/europe-bank-run-geagy/

In Summary:
 
1) "Italy?s planned ban on cash transactions over 1,000 euros, or about $1,300."
2) "French, Spanish and Italian banks have run out of collateral and are now pledging real assets
     [Land]."
3) "Swiss officials are preparing for the end of the euro with capital control measures."
4) "Europe?s CEOs are actively preparing for the end of the euro despite governmental
     reassurances."

Now how much did the Fed loan the EU banks since 2008? I think it was $7T. Today there is a run on the ?...Tomorrow on the $$$.

Mark my words, please have on hand one months worth of $$$. 

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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 01:24:17 PM »
More Johny, I want to know more.

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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 04:51:46 PM »
here is some Intel that i got from the Blaze. com

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/glenn-beck-greece-qe3-and-italys-return-to-fascism/

 the title is Glenn Beck: Greece, QE3 and Italy?s Return to Fascism?

here is some exerts from the article that I found to be interesting that also consolidate with the Italians ban on cash transactions and our own US treasuries.

   " ?last week?there was a record monthly dump of Treasury paper from the Fed?s custodial account amounting to some $69 billion, the week ended January 4 has seen yet another outflow, this time amounting to $9 billion in U.S. Treasurys.

    This is the 5th week in a row of foreigners selling U.S. paper, and while it has yet to match the record 6 weeks of outflows from October?the consolidated outflow notional is now a record high at $77 billion, higher than the previous record of $52 billion.

    Needless to say banks from around the world are repatriating dollars. The question is what they are converting the USD into, and how much longer will the go on for: the last thing the U.S. can afford is a wholesale dumping of its Treasurys.
Needless to say banks from around the world are repatriating dollars. The question is what they are converting the USD into, and how much longer will the go on for: the last thing the U.S. can afford is a wholesale dumping of its Treasurys.
?They are converting dollars into something. We don?t know what,? Beck said. ?It could be gold, could be diamonds could be ? we don?t know! Meanwhile, we are trading just like MF Global. Our U.S. dollars! While our Fed is giving our dollars for crappy euros, the Europeans are at the same time taking our U.S. treasuries and dumping them.?

An even more frightening (indeed, perhaps the most frightening) development in the EU is the possible resurrection of fascism. Many analysts fear that some eurozone countries, Italy especially, will revert to fascist-style systems of control in a desperate bid to cope with their financial crises.

?They put in an unelected government ? no accountability, no time to elect ? they will be there for unspecified amount of time. We have a university professor who used the state to slowdown corporations that got too big. This guy was with Goldman [Sachs]!? said Glenn Beck.
?These guys have gotten together and made cash transactions over more than $1,000 dollars illegal! That?s phenomenal!? Beck said

?The existing regime, the new technocrats in Italy, indicated this level will be progressively reduced to $300. Basically, almost every transaction will be monitored and tracked. They are closing down anything that needs to be traded, credit card companies track everything and banks are allowed to stop withdrawals of more than $10,000.?

This sounds pretty serious.

?It?s already happening here in America. They track you. In Italy, they can deny withdrawals. In Switzerland, they have placed cameras at the physical borders to register all license plates,?? Beck added."

Hope this Intel helps out. We will see what pans out from here.

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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 07:59:57 PM »
More Johny, I want to know more.

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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 08:46:28 PM »
damn this is a little sooner then i had expected..
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 09:18:04 PM »
Well folks, the time is here.  If you have not already emptied your bank account(s), the time has come.  If you must have an account to pay bills with, at the very least, leave only the "minimum balance" to prevent fees, and then deposit cash back in as needed when paying bills.  This will require some time, effort and keeping on top of things on your part, which will really suck the farther you live from your nearest bank branch. 

Divide up your cash withdrawals.  Withdrawals over $2999.99 are guaranteed to earn you unwanted attention and questioning (to which you are not under any legal obligation to provide an answer.) 

None of this will help for a declining dollar, but at least YOU will have access to your money when/if they decide to have a "bank holiday."
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 09:46:09 PM »
Here's two more articles:

The Greeks are pulling cash out of their own banks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/greek-bank-run-hits-record-unprecedented-%E2%82%AC68-billion-deposits-pulled-greek-banks-october

Southern Europens pulling their ??? and putting in Scandinavian bankshttp://www.worldcrunch.com/new-signs-invisible-bank-run-southern-europe-cash-shifts-scandinavia/4223

What does it all mean you ask. Well I am not an economist but IMO it means a run on the global bank. Remember all of the western countries belong to the IMF.

Do you remember the old story of not putting all of your eggs in the same basket? Do you remember your financial advisers advise about diversifying? Well the IMF banks put all of their eggs in one basket and did not diversify. [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

The US is going to come and try to save the day with worthless fiat money when the ? collapses. So we are going to resque Europe- Not likely. Just google "countires dumping the US dollar" and see who's doing it. Some countries are: Brazil, China, India, Japan, Russia, South Africa to name a few.

Why are banks in China, India and Russia acquiring gold at unprecedented levels?  http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22672

Again, you nor I have any control over what is happening. We do have control over our own destiny though.

You know my mantra by heart now:

1) Have at least one months worth of cash on hand
2) When the bank holiday comes take your one month of cash and buy as much food as you can
3) Have something to defend your family and home with.

Stay tuned...
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 10:09:25 PM »
JM you say to have 1 months worth of cash on hand for food/water at the last minute... but what do you think about people renting? wont they be up shit creek if its not all out war and rent day comes and goes and your landlord decides he wants to evict you? if theres still a form or rule of law in act then if you refuse im sure he could get the police over there sooner or later to remove you. wouldnt it be a good idea to have money to be able to keep right with your rental agreement.. even though the money is worthless you cant be evicted if you pay the correct amount. Thoughts?
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 10:34:04 PM »
Ken asked: My response in bold "JM you say to have 1 months worth of cash on hand for food/water at the last minute... but what do you think about people renting [or have a morgage]? wont they be up shit creek if its not all out war and rent day comes and goes and your landlord decides he wants to evict you? Yup. if theres still a form or rule of law in act then if you refuse I'm sure he could get the police over there sooner or later to remove you. Yup. However the police will be busy at the Winn Dixie, or Albertsons, or Stop N' Shop wouldn't it be a good idea to have money to be able to keep right with your rental agreement. It's important to keep right with all of your agreements. One month of cash OH should include money for: food, gas, electric, rent, mortgage, etc even though the money is worthless you cant be evicted if you pay the correct amount. Very true. Thoughts?"

Here's some of my thoughts about a bank holiday:
1) Restrictions will be put into place so that you do not take a lot of $$$$ out. You will only be
    able to pay with a debit card, credit card or cash you already have in hand until things are
    under control. The government will decide when things are under control.
2) ATM's will be emptied within hours
3) Drug addicts will not be able to buy their poison of choice because their will be no cash
4) People who do not have credit cards or debit cards (A lot in my neck of the woods) like illegal
    immigrants will not be able to eat- Drive to work- Etc.

In the end desperate people do desperate things.

Ken, did I answer any of your questions?  :)
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 09:02:55 AM »
Ken asked: My response in bold "JM you say to have 1 months worth of cash on hand for food/water at the last minute... but what do you think about people renting [or have a morgage]? wont they be up shit creek if its not all out war and rent day comes and goes and your landlord decides he wants to evict you? Yup. if theres still a form or rule of law in act then if you refuse I'm sure he could get the police over there sooner or later to remove you. Yup. However the police will be busy at the Winn Dixie, or Albertsons, or Stop N' Shop wouldn't it be a good idea to have money to be able to keep right with your rental agreement. It's important to keep right with all of your agreements. One month of cash OH should include money for: food, gas, electric, rent, mortgage, etc even though the money is worthless you cant be evicted if you pay the correct amount. Very true. Thoughts?"

Here's some of my thoughts about a bank holiday:
1) Restrictions will be put into place so that you do not take a lot of $$$$ out. You will only be
    able to pay with a debit card, credit card or cash you already have in hand until things are
    under control. The government will decide when things are under control.
2) ATM's will be emptied within hours
3) Drug addicts will not be able to buy their poison of choice because their will be no cash
4) People who do not have credit cards or debit cards (A lot in my neck of the woods) like illegal
    immigrants will not be able to eat- Drive to work- Etc.

In the end desperate people do desperate things.

Ken, did I answer any of your questions?  :)

yes thank you JM that did answer my question. and i focused on Renters and left out mortgages because im sure banks will be way overwhelmed to get the police out to every home they own and really have no reason to. plus the foreclosure process is a lot longer then just being 5 days late on rent and them being able to evict you. i can see a guy who owns just a single apartment complex wanting to clear the whole thing out to protect it. and no one having money to pay for anything is an easy way to make that happen.
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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 09:38:07 AM »
Yes you are right Ken about banks not being able to move swiftly to foreclose and move you out. Actually most banks don't want to move you out necessarily because an empty house can lead to vandals or squatters.

There is a very nice house (In the $300K range) just down the street from me. It has been forclosed on yet the original owners are living there- It has been 2 years now. Te bank has it up for sale and it is shown but has not sold to date.

On another note: You got me thinking Ken, landlords will have to employ their own security force to move folks out as police will have their hands full elsewhere. Maybe an opportunity for a new business / service. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 01:44:13 PM »
I really don't think I could be employed to evict people should we be entering an economic collapse. Not only would it be dangerous, but damn, it might not be THEIR home (they don't own it) but still, it would hurt to be on the end of that.


But, back to the topic at hand; as early as this fall? It's kind of looking that way, but damn, I hope/wish we have more time than that, but I guess when the time comes, we'll have to make do with what we have and have learned. Bring it.

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Re: Back Door Run on the ?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 04:39:48 PM »
Frosty, I commend you for not doing however there will be people waiting in line to do that job. I use the Brown Shirts in Germany as an example.
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