obama the commie

[goodnightChesty1775]

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-banks-dont-have-inherent-right-certain-amount-profit

rages me

[sledge]

The scumbag banks are reacting to new regulations from the scumbag administration and democrats in the last congress.  Obama's just doing the cya with his mouth again.

We don't have any more money to throw at the banks and bail their profits out so they have to make those profits off the consumers with higher fees.  Regardless of how it's done those multi million dollar bonuses and salaries have to get paid.  The bastards.

They are all headed for a fall and when it happens I'm gonna laugh my rear off while cooking up a pot of beans.

[Kentactic]

maybe im confused but it sounded like Obama wants to limit the amount of pressure the banks put on there customers... so you bitch that the fees are too high and now obama steps in to regulate those fees for you and then you bitch about that?

Notice i said "you" in all of that... if your a broke dick like me and you cant afford the fees then chances are you dont have much money in the bank to begin with... why exactly cant you put that money in your wallet instead of having some guy hold it for you for no reason and then charging you to get some of it each time? i mean seriously... are we insane? why would a guy with a small amount of money pay a guy to gaurantee it and keep it safe? if its a small enough amount to fit into your wallet then why wouldnt you keep it there?

oh and ive got an ice farm in Alaska for sale guys hit me up

870-555-1234

[sledge]

lol, yeah, I just sound like a hater don't I Ken?  It's because that it is difficult to put the entirety of what I think about this subject into a short post.  I'll try to explain it as concisely as possible.

Obama and the Presidents, Congresses, and the Judiciary for the last 98 years have been playing a game where the guaranteed winners are a select group of individuals and the guaranteed losers are the tax paying American people.  The game is played by the use of corruption, payoffs, lies and misleading statements to the American people, and theft.  Winners are determined by how much influence they can afford to buy and how many lobbyists they can afford to hire.

There it is.  The answer to every question of how we got to where we are today. 

Note that the tax paying American citizen is now and has always been a sore loser when it comes to games.  Which explains why the security apparatus has been put into place that we have today.   

   

[Kentactic]

lol, yeah, I just sound like a hater don't I Ken?  It's because that it is difficult to put the entirety of what I think about this subject into a short post.  I'll try to explain it as concisely as possible.

Obama and the Presidents, Congresses, and the Judiciary for the last 98 years have been playing a game where the guaranteed winners are a select group of individuals and the guaranteed losers are the tax paying American people.  The game is played by the use of corruption, payoffs, lies and misleading statements to the American people, and theft.  Winners are determined by how much influence they can afford to buy and how many lobbyists they can afford to hire.

There it is.  The answer to every question of how we got to where we are today. 

Note that the tax paying American citizen is now and has always been a sore loser when it comes to games.  Which explains why the security apparatus has been put into place that we have today.   

 

i realize the big picture...but in this specific situation do you want to pay more fees or not? if you say yes then obamas an ass...if you say you dont want to pay more then it would appear as though obama is on your team in this situation. this is all assuming ive understood the above link correctly.

personally i dont really care either way im not even a customer.

[sledge]

Applying the principles of my previous post Obama doesn't care if I pay more fees or not.  He just wants to get reelected and rake in huge amounts of funds.  So he is saying he cares when he actually isn't going to do anything about it.  It works as a soothing sirens call to the sore loser tax payer, draws in more funds for him from his base, and doesn't cost the banks, who also through money at him, anything.

Given this, why would I pick between him and the banks being on my team.  Screw them both.

[Kentactic]

Applying the principles of my previous post Obama doesn't care if I pay more fees or not.  He just wants to get reelected and rake in huge amounts of funds.  So he is saying he cares when he actually isn't going to do anything about it.  It works as a soothing sirens call to the sore loser tax payer, draws in more funds for him from his base, and doesn't cost the banks, who also through money at him, anything.

Given this, why would I pick between him and the banks being on my team.  Screw them both.

right but by saying "i agree with what obama is SAYING" dosent mean hes getting re-elected and you have to walk his dog once a week.  it just means the BS coming out of his mouth in this particular incident is good BS. wether it happens or not he cant be charged with a crime he has yet to commit. so if your going to put him down when hes talking this time then you might as well just scream profanity every single time he opens his mouth and throw any rational thinking out the window.

[sledge]

Oh, I get it.  You're bored and you're trolling.

[Kentactic]

Oh, I get it.  You're bored and you're trolling.

OH MY GOD!... 

sorry if i had an apposing view that hurt your feelings im just a no good troll... how dare i start a debate on why you blindly critisize some one seemingly just to scream anarchy.

BTW my origonal post in this thread wasnt even directed towards you specifically...

-Troll signing out -

[sledge]

Ken, I answered your question and you basically go back and ask the same question.  What do you want me to think?  It appeared you asked another series of the same questions without reading my answers.  It sure felt like you were toying with me.  Don't get offended.

[sledge]

Oh, I get it.  You're bored and you're trolling.

OH MY GOD!... 

sorry if i had an apposing view that hurt your feelings im just a no good troll... how dare i start a debate on why you blindly critisize some one seemingly just to scream anarchy.

BTW my origonal post in this thread wasnt even directed towards you specifically...

-Troll signing out -

Here are examples -
Blindly criticize - My post above gave the reasons I criticize.  Nothing to do with blindly.  The answer to everyone of               
the questions you asked are there if you care to read them.

Anarchy -  Where did you get this?  Possibly your assumption of what you think I think.
                               
Scream -  I'm not one given to screaming.  In person I'm actually a quiet and controlled person.

[Kentactic]

Ken, I answered your question and you basically go back and ask the same question.  What do you want me to think?  It appeared you asked another series of the same questions without reading my answers.  It sure felt like you were toying with me.  Don't get offended.

ok i guess im having trouble explaining what i mean in words. hmmm let me see...

ok i realize the systems a sham and in the end we lose big no matter what. but why in this particular instance are you complaining? because bassically if you complain in this situation where hes seemingly "on our side" even if its just BS words. then why arent you taking up arms and trying to bring down the system. i mean if even when hes saying good things hes a bad guy then obviously weve got serious problems and might aswell start the war. it just seems to be a weird issue to be putting obama down on.

kind of like hes saying "and ill lower all taxes" and then you say "boooooo screw you obama"... and then he says "and were going to remove all gun bans of any kind" and then you say "fuck you, you anti second ammendment bastard".


i hope that makes more sense. lol

[Kentactic]

bassically sledge what specifically about that interveiw dont you like? what did he say that you disagree with?

[NOLA556]

what specifically about that interveiw dont you like? what did he say that you disagree with?

government has no business price-fixing. i know it technically wouldn't be price-fixing because he didn't say anything about any official legislation, but let's be real here, they don't need to enact new legislation these days, they just do what they want when they want.

don't get me wrong, fuck BofA, and the rest of them too, but as long as they're privately run then government has no business telling them how to operate. If BofA wants to shoot themselves in the foot then they should have the freedom to do it. You can't legislate business practice any more than you can legislate morality. (even though they do both of those things on a regular basis, but is the outcome ever positive? not from what I can see)

government has been involved in price-fixing for a long time, but what bothers me about this particular interview is that it's just more proof that unconstitutionality is becoming more and more normal and acceptable to society. the way he's so casual and arrogant when he talks about doing something unconstitutional.

I think that by defending Barry's stance on this, you're forgetting what the constitutional role of government should be, and you're getting caught up in the same trap that the libs are caught in. Just remember that NOTHING that goes on between banks and government is EVER in your best interest.

[sledge]

Because we've had the chance to watch and study him it's become obvious that whatever he says is nothing more than him playing the game to achieve his own goals.

You're saying that because he says that he wants banks to lower my fees that I should believe that's what he actually thinks.  Then support him or oppose him based on that.  Many years ago I would have done just that.  Since that time I've learned through many disappointments to look at what Presidents do, what those they appoint do,  as well as what those Presidents say. 

Since that is what I do now I know that he has no intention of lowering the bank fees when they are initiated.  And you can bet that the banks are going to make more from those fees than they did from the fees to retailers the Dodd bill brought down.  I know that because this isn't my first go round with this same type of situation diversion.

It's not just Obama that I trash talk as a paid for lying puppet.  I've had it proven to me over and over again that 99% of all politicians fall into the same category.  They all lie and mislead constantly and create legislation for their own benefit.

Since I've learned how the system works.  I don't have to support or oppose them based on what they say.  All I have to do is watch what they do and who they appoint.  With that I'll know all that is really important to know.  Because that will show what their agenda is which will answer every other question that may arise in regards to them.

Are you starting to understand

Now, if Obama was serious about curbing the new consumer bank fees.  I'd support that.  However, he isn't, so it really doesn't matter what he says.   

     

[Kentactic]

what specifically about that interveiw dont you like? what did he say that you disagree with?

government has no business price-fixing. i know it technically wouldn't be price-fixing because he didn't say anything about any official legislation, but let's be real here, they don't need to enact new legislation these days, they just do what they want when they want.

don't get me wrong, fuck BofA, and the rest of them too, but as long as they're privately run then government has no business telling them how to operate. If BofA wants to shoot themselves in the foot then they should have the freedom to do it. You can't legislate business practice any more than you can legislate morality. (even though they do both of those things on a regular basis, but is the outcome ever positive? not from what I can see)

government has been involved in price-fixing for a long time, but what bothers me about this particular interview is that it's just more proof that unconstitutionality is becoming more and more normal and acceptable to society. the way he's so casual and arrogant when he talks about doing something unconstitutional.

I think that by defending Barry's stance on this, you're forgetting what the constitutional role of government should be, and you're getting caught up in the same trap that the libs are caught in. Just remember that NOTHING that goes on between banks and government is EVER in your best interest.

oh no i by no means support what he says in the video... like i said i dont have a bank account and dont care how high the bank fees get. i just was trying to understand why the OP was mad by that specific interveiw... and then (maybe not him specifically) they bitch about the banks increasing fee's. seemingly "they" want it both ways. perhaps i was wrong by putting people in two different categories together as one.

i guess perhaps the OP dosent support obamas position on this and is fine with the higher bank fee's.

[Kentactic]

Because we've had the chance to watch and study him it's become obvious that whatever he says is nothing more than him playing the game to achieve his own goals.

You're saying that because he says that he wants banks to lower my fees that I should believe that's what he actually thinks.  Then support him or oppose him based on that.  Many years ago I would have done just that.  Since that time I've learned through many disappointments to look at what Presidents do, what those they appoint do,  as well as what those Presidents say. 

Since that is what I do now I know that he has no intention of lowering the bank fees when they are initiated.  And you can bet that the banks are going to make more from those fees than they did from the fees to retailers the Dodd bill brought down.  I know that because this isn't my first go round with this same type of situation diversion.

It's not just Obama that I trash talk as a paid for lying puppet.  I've had it proven to me over and over again that 99% of all politicians fall into the same category.  They all lie and mislead constantly and create legislation for their own benefit.

Since I've learned how the system works.  I don't have to support or oppose them based on what they say.  All I have to do is watch what they do and who they appoint.  With that I'll know all that is really important to know.  Because that will show what their agenda is which will answer every other question that may arise in regards to them.

Are you starting to understand

Now, if Obama was serious about curbing the new consumer bank fees.  I'd support that.  However, he isn't, so it really doesn't matter what he says.   

   

yeah im not saying that you should support him or dont based on his words im merely saying it dosent make sense to burn him on words he speaks when they technically support what you agree with. but like i said my OP wasnt directed towards you and in your first post i saw nothing that supported you fitting into the crowd that i was talking about in my OP.

[sledge]

what specifically about that interveiw dont you like? what did he say that you disagree with?

government has no business price-fixing. i know it technically wouldn't be price-fixing because he didn't say anything about any official legislation, but let's be real here, they don't need to enact new legislation these days, they just do what they want when they want.

don't get me wrong, fuck BofA, and the rest of them too, but as long as they're privately run then government has no business telling them how to operate. If BofA wants to shoot themselves in the foot then they should have the freedom to do it. You can't legislate business practice any more than you can legislate morality. (even though they do both of those things on a regular basis, but is the outcome ever positive? not from what I can see)

government has been involved in price-fixing for a long time, but what bothers me about this particular interview is that it's just more proof that unconstitutionality is becoming more and more normal and acceptable to society. the way he's so casual and arrogant when he talks about doing something unconstitutional.

I think that by defending Barry's stance on this, you're forgetting what the constitutional role of government should be, and you're getting caught up in the same trap that the libs are caught in. Just remember that NOTHING that goes on between banks and government is EVER in your best interest.

I would be 100% behind your statement on government price fixing if it weren't for the fact that the bankers engaged in criminal behavior at best leading to the financial crash that brought us to where we are now.  Yeah, yeah, I'm just feeling vindictive against those corrupt blood suckers.     

[NOLA556]

I would be 100% behind your statement on government price fixing if it weren't for the fact that the bankers engaged in criminal behavior at best leading to the financial crash that brought us to where we are now.  Yeah, yeah, I'm just feeling vindictive against those corrupt blood suckers.   

well honestly man, I'm pretty sure the fed gov had just as much to do with the whole thing. the whole thing needs to be brought down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZobkTGpyeiE

[sledge]

I would be 100% behind your statement on government price fixing if it weren't for the fact that the bankers engaged in criminal behavior at best leading to the financial crash that brought us to where we are now.  Yeah, yeah, I'm just feeling vindictive against those corrupt blood suckers.   

well honestly man, I'm pretty sure the fed gov had just as much to do with the whole thing. the whole thing needs to be brought down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZobkTGpyeiE

I'd have to say I agree with you there.  Although, I would rather just fix it than bring it all down.  But that may not be possible.  Heck, it's probably not possible to keep it from falling all down on it's own.   But Ben said today he's gonna try with another stimulus.  Yep, we're screwed.

[tominphx]

He is kind of right. Profit is not a right. It is something you earn.

Just like healthcare, housing, food, etc.