Oath Keepers is going operational

[rah45]

Oath Keepers is going operational.

Things are getting more serious. I wonder who else is going to take it to the next level?

Here is an excerpt, the first two intro paragraphs:

Oath Keepers is instructing it?s 30,000 members nation-wide to form up special teams and sub-teams in each Oath Keepers chapter, at the town and county level, modeled loosely on the Special Forces ?A Team? (Operational Detachment A ) model, and for a similar purpose: to be both a potential operational unit for community security and support during crisis, but also, as mission #1, to serve as training and leadership cadre, to assist in organizing neighborhood watches, organizing veterans halls to provide community civil defense, forming County Sheriff Posses, strengthening existing CERT, volunteer fire, search-and-rescue, reserve deputy systems, etc., and eventually to assist in forming and training town and county militias (established by official act of town and county elected representatives). We want our chapters to organize themselves as a working model that we can then take to other veterans organizations, such as the VFW, American Legion, Marine Corps League, etc. in each town and help them establish such teams within their already existing veterans halls.  And likewise, to serve as a model and training cadre to help churches, neighborhood watches, and any other civic organization organize.

We are basing this on the Special Forces model, which has a twelve man ?A team? of specially trained soldiers who are inserted into a community to train and lead that community in resistance to oppressive regimes (hence their motto: ?De Oppresso Liber).   SF?s primary mission is to teach, organize, and lead, rather than to directly fight. They can fight, of course, but they are most dangerous as a force-multiplier by helping an entire community to fight. We will do the same ? be force multipliers to help prepare communities so they can preserve civilization by providing their own security, disaster relief, infrastructure preservation, emergency communications, strategic food reserve, and medical care.

[Deathstyle]

I found this article last night. I sent a link over to Hiberniason on youtube to check it out.

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1744-oath-keepers-is-going-operational-by-forming-special-civilization-preservation-teams

[crudos]

 

 

 

[rah45]

I think it's good they're taking that next step to try and help prepare others, or at least to organize in a more meaningful, physical way. I just wonder if other groups will start to do the same. Should be interesting if they do.

[CrystalHunter1989]

I was quite surprised by this, but I think it could also work for good if done properly. OK has a great public image and a wide-reaching membership.

[USMC0331]

At 30k membership they will either tap into militia wannabes and make something real or be demonized and marginalized.

My money is on the later.

[Kentactic]

I was considering joining. But since I didn't serve as a tyrannical cop or a brainwashed soldier I don't get full status... NEXT....

[Reaver]

I was considering joining. But since I didn't serve as a tyrannical cop or a brainwashed soldier I don't get full status... NEXT....

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

[Kentactic]

I was considering joining. But since I didn't serve as a tyrannical cop or a brainwashed soldier I don't get full status... NEXT....

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

I actually thought of you as I typed that. And not because your brainwashed. I'm glad you said WTF. I just see no reasob to seperate those that "served" from those that supposidly havent. And they still ask for the same amount of money while they for some reason beyond me mark you as a less than. I'm every bit and beyond your average citizen who swore an oath. If they think they are elite in some government issued way they don't deserve me. They essentially appose current government but use the oath that government made them swear to as some sort of right of passage..  pick a side fuckers.. I know Reaver is legite no question.

[Reaver]

It's still bullshit dude. You may think I'm " legit " but you still pretty much offended me bro.

What your saying is anyone that works LEO is  ( or was at one point )a tyrannical douche & anyone who has or is serving is ( or was at one point ) brainwashed.

Hear that chesty, now that your serving even though you where awake prior to enlisting. You are a brainwashed ass hole. 

Most ignorant thing I think I've ever read from you bro.....

[rah45]

Guys, let's not forget that the important things is the Oath Keepers are trying to do something that is very necessary. It's a good goal for everyone, no matter what the OK stance is or how you feel about OK. "A-Teams" operating in local areas, effectively, towards a pro-Constitutional and self-sufficient end, is a step in the right direction.

I don't fault OK for targeting those who have officially taken the oath in the course of government employment. They did it to help defend the Constitution, which is never a bad thing. There are plenty of organizations which do not have those requirements, which also do not have the impact and influence that OK has. If they display unconstitutional tendencies, then have at them. Otherwise, why attack an ally? If they contribute more pro-Constitutional stability to a possible SHTF future, that only helps you.

[CrystalHunter1989]

Guys, let's not forget that the important things is the Oath Keepers are trying to do something that is very necessary. It's a good goal for everyone, no matter what the OK stance is or how you feel about OK. "A-Teams" operating in local areas, effectively, towards a pro-Constitutional and self-sufficient end, is a step in the right direction.

I don't fault OK for targeting those who have officially taken the oath in the course of government employment. They did it to help defend the Constitution, which is never a bad thing. There are plenty of organizations which do not have those requirements, which also do not have the impact and influence that OK has. If they display unconstitutional tendencies, then have at them. Otherwise, why attack an ally? If they contribute more pro-Constitutional stability to a possible SHTF future, that only helps you.

I agree. No, OK isn't perfect, but they bring a lot to the table. They have a great public image and lots of resources. If a group came to my AO I'd check it out just for the training opportunities at least. The colonies didn't like working with each other all the time, but it was either that or lose. History is filled with stories of people who allowed divisions to destroy them.

Dismissing them altogether would be a big mistake, in my book.

[sledge]

I was considering joining. But since I didn't serve as a tyrannical cop or a brainwashed soldier I don't get full status... NEXT....

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Reaver, welcome to the world of stereotypes and profiling.  Enjoy your stay.  It's kind of like saying that all liberals suck, though technically, only a small segment of their population actually physically do.

Now, Yeah Ken, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Edit:  After a few moments of thought I'll just add that my own personal policy is to never call a cop for anything.  Not that I think they are all assholes, most aren't.  But it's just not worth the risk of having one of the one's that are show up at your door.

[special-k]

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, but does anyone care to comment on how one can continue to serve an imperialistic government (whether at home or abroad,) while claiming to be pro constitution.  Again, I'm not choosing a side.  I just think that now is a good opportunity to explain your logic.

[sledge]

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, but does anyone care to comment on how one can continue to serve an imperialistic government (whether at home or abroad,) while claiming to be pro constitution.  Again, I'm not choosing a side.  I just think that now is a good opportunity to explain your logic.

Special K, you antagonist you.  It's not about serving an "imperialist government".   It's about defending and protecting the citizens who are at present putting up with the government, despite said government's corruption of the Constitution. 

If, and that is a big if, it ever comes to a climax I suspect you would find that among the lower ranking members of the military who aren't solely concerned about furthering their careers by kissing socialist ass, that those guns they hold in their hands are capable of pointing both ways.   

[special-k]

@sledge

So you're basically saying that they are staying in for the purpose of infiltration?

[sledge]

Nope, not infiltration.  As I remember, it's more of a sense of duty to the people who make up the nation.  Kind of a price that is paid to be a citizen with the rights to the Constitution.  Not saying anything about those who don't choose to serve.  Just a partial explanation of why those that do choose to serve raise their right hand.

Edit:  This is also the reason that veterans tend to get a little more pissed when they see the government F ing with the Constitution.

[JohnyMac]

SK wrote:

So you're basically saying that they are staying in for the purpose of infiltration?

No they are staying in for a JOB!

U-6 unemployment is north of 15%. How many former vets are flipping burgers or sitting home because they don't have a job.

[APX808]

SK wrote:

So you're basically saying that they are staying in for the purpose of infiltration?

No they are staying in for a JOB!

U-6 unemployment is north of 15%. How many former vets are flipping burgers or sitting home because they don't have a job.

LOL I was just about to say that

[special-k]

Ah yes.  I have heard the old "it's just a job" before.   

[rah45]

There's nothing wrong with those who take the oath, whether they be LEOs, military, firemen, etc. What matters is that every individual who takes that oath defends the Constitution and does not obey unconstitutional orders. If their actions reflect this, then yes, we NEED them. I would rather they stay, especially in a position to help defend the Constitution with more advanced hardware. God knows if something happens, anti-Constitutional forces will have enough of it.

[crudos]

I thought OK was already doing this special teams-things all the while since they started, but only now to find that they are thinking really hard about getting their shit together finally? Something about OK and Rhodes (mostly Rhodes) rubs me the wrong way. I could be all wrong about this, not the first time.

[sledge]

I'm sure the economy has driven some into the military.  But believe it or not, it's not all about money.  When i went in there was a war going on.  Did I want to go over there?  Hell no.  Was it popular to be in the military?  Hell no.  Did the military pay any kind of living wage?  Hell no.  It isn't always about money.  There are other reasons that come into play.

If you've never felt those reasons than they are hard to explain.  Some do, some don't.  I'd say that most don't these days.  Most didn't in the 1770's either.  That's not any type of put down or attack on the way people feel today.  Just kind of the way things have turned out.  Probably by someone's design. 

[Kentactic]

It's still bullshit dude. You may think I'm " legit " but you still pretty much offended me bro.

What your saying is anyone that works LEO is  ( or was at one point )a tyrannical douche & anyone who has or is serving is ( or was at one point ) brainwashed.

Hear that chesty, now that your serving even though you where awake prior to enlisting. You are a brainwashed ass hole. 

Most ignorant thing I think I've ever read from you bro.....

Well I do stand by my LEO statement. Show me a cop who only enforces constitutional laws and ill show you an unemployed cop. Anyone who swears to uphold the constitution CANNOT be a cop.

As far as military goes. Ive made my share of dumb career choices. I'm not going to say to a guy "that job sucks what are you thinking". If they like it then go. I don't see how someone knowing what we know would remain in said job but that's not for me to judge.

[Kentactic]

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, but does anyone care to comment on how one can continue to serve an imperialistic government (whether at home or abroad,) while claiming to be pro constitution.  Again, I'm not choosing a side.  I just think that now is a good opportunity to explain your logic.

Yes... and I'm not trying to rope special k in to my corner by quoting him but this is my feeling aswell. Its almost taboo to question a man for serving. But today... why...