Unchained Preppers
General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: JohnyMac on September 27, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
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Nord Stream 1 (2 pipelines), and Nord Stream 2 (1 pipeline) were apparently both sabotaged at the same time yesterday. I can only surmise it was a state actor. NATO? EU? Russia? USA? Other?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5r39GLwYx8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5r39GLwYx8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSWNA-WbrOc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSWNA-WbrOc)
:popcorn:
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No, it was simple equipment/material failure*. No one could sabotage something that secure. Besides, who would want to?
Nemo
*note sarcasm
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Boiling seas. Link has video.
2 pipelines, likely sabotage.
Nemo
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/video-shows-boiling-seas-above-broken-nord-stream-pipelines-2022-09-27/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/video-shows-boiling-seas-above-broken-nord-stream-pipelines-2022-09-27/)
Video shows boiling seas above broken Nord Stream pipelines
Reuters
COPENHAGEN, Sept 27 (Reuters) - Denmark's armed forces on Tuesday released video showing bubbles rushing to the surface of the Baltic Sea above the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, and said the largest gas leak had caused surface disturbance of well over 1 kilometre in diameter.
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Let the pre-election OCTOBER SURPRISE begin.
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There are so many likely scenarios it makes your head spin.
Sounds like explosions are the culprit, from what is unknown.
My 2 favorites:
1-The russians set bombs to damage the pipelines to further tighten the screws on Europe, specifically Germany. And also raise prices of energy.
2-Some European country did it to keep Germany on board with sanctions. Seems the germans are getting nervous about public dissent.
Anyone have another guess?
Another tidbit - October 1 is Russia's Army Day.
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Likely explosions, not earthquakes.
Nemo
https://www.foxnews.com/world/nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-likely-explosions-not-earthquakes-seismologist-says (https://www.foxnews.com/world/nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-likely-explosions-not-earthquakes-seismologist-says)
Russia
Published September 27, 2022 3:47pm EDT
Nord Stream pipeline blasts were likely from explosions, not earthquakes, seismologist says
European officials believe the explosions were a deliberate act of sabotage
By Bradford Betz | Fox News
Seismic activity detected at the site of the Nord Stream pipelines gas leaks in the Baltic Sea was caused by explosions ? not earthquakes or landslides, a Swedish seismologist said Tuesday.
Bjorn Lund, director of the Swedish National Seismic Network, said he and his colleagues gathered seismic data showing that explosions took place in the water and not in the rock under the seabed.
The explosions rattled the Baltic Sea before unusual leaks were discovered on the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines running underwater from Russia to Germany.
Lund said the first explosion was recorded early Monday southeast of the Danish Island of Bornholm. A second, stronger blast northeast of the island that night was equivalent to a magnitude-2.3 earthquake.
Seismic stations in Denmark, Norway, and Finland also registered the explosions.
"There's no doubt, this is not an earthquake," Lund said.
Multiple European officials have pointed to possible sabotage amid an energy standoff with Russia provoked by the war in Ukraine.
A large disturbance in the sea can be observed off the coast of the Danish island of Bornholm Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2022 following a series of unusual leaks on two natural gas pipelines running from Russia under the Baltic Sea to Germany have triggered concerns about possible sabotage.
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said her government regarded the leaks as the results of "deliberate actions" by unknown perpetrators.
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki, meanwhile, called the events "an act of sabotage," one that "probably means the next step of escalation in the situation that we are dealing with in Ukraine."
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters that American officials have not confirmed sabotage or an attack.
The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines are filled with natural gas but are not delivering the fuel to Europe, overshadowing the inauguration of a long-awaited pipeline that will bring Norwegian gas to Poland to bolster the continent's energy independence from Moscow.
The gas leaks created a foamy white area on the water's surface, images released by Denmark's military show. Danish Energy Minister Dan J?rgensen said that "we cannot say how long the leak will go" on as the gas has not been turned off.
The escaped natural gas is made up almost entirely of methane, the second-biggest contributor to climate change after carbon dioxide.
No official presented evidence of what caused the Nord Stream problems, but with distrust of Russia running high, some feared Moscow sabotaged its own infrastructure out of spite or to warn that pipelines are vulnerable to attack.
The extent of the damage means the Nord Stream pipelines are unlikely to be able to carry any gas to Europe this winter even if there was political will to bring them online, analysts at the Eurasia Group said. Russia has halted flows on the 760-mile Nord Stream 1 pipeline during the war, while Germany prevented them from ever starting in the parallel Nord Stream 2.
The Nord Stream pipelines have been at the center of an energy clash between Europe and Russia since the invasion of Ukraine in late February. Plunging Russian gas supplies have caused prices to soar, pressuring governments to help ease the pain of sky-high energy bills for households and businesses as winter nears.
The Baltic Pipe is a prominent element in the European Union's search for energy security and is to start bringing Norwegian gas through Denmark and along the Baltic Sea to Poland on Oct. 1.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Seismoligists .... I'll go with SONAR and other undersea sensors, which covers that entire area and has for several decades. Whether it was US, UK or Russian Naval Spetsnaz or some variation: I don't know, but there are so many ways for this to be useful for any of the ALMOST-beligerant nations in the region and likely VERY well thought-out by very cunning people. Russia can play as a victim and share their heartful 'sorrow' for the freezing Europeans 'cuz, 'We were going to turn the gas back ON beginning October, but now the U.S. has blow-up the pipes...' We already see a lot of divide and conquer press from Russia and their useful idiots.
UPNews just released this footage of Biden (President PoopyPants) infiltrating the sea off Bornholm Island.
https://youtu.be/D29OtboQV_c (https://youtu.be/D29OtboQV_c)
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Now will that Baltic pipeline be next?
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Someone (NATO, WEF, etc) wants a war. Actually, the EU economy needs a war for their economy and the USA needs one before the midterms. A lot of elites needs.
Just food for thought.
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U.S. did it.
Per a former Polish Defense Minister.
Nemo
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2022/09/27/us-blew-up-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1--2-says-former-polish-defense-minister/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2022/09/27/us-blew-up-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1--2-says-former-polish-defense-minister/)
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Here's what our "President" had to say about the pipeline should needs arise...
https://youtu.be/Hpgwksjir1I
and here's what Tucker Carlson had to say (which if he keeps this up, he will "have to be cancelled" byt the powers he speaks truth to)...
https://youtu.be/jLb0QeCQF_I
I used to think nukes simply wouldn't ever be used by the big guys. Too much to lose for however much to gain.
Not so sure about that anymore.
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Add to all that is going on, we the USA, is selling our strategic oil reserves to the Chinese.
War is not just over the horizon anymore. It is now just down the street. Stay tuned... :popcorn:
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The battle of smoke has cleared since this event happened. Here are my thoughts.
To be honest, just my opinion, it was Putin that did this to use as 1) Reason to reciprocate against X, and 2) Putin used China as a proxy to make the deed happen - Implied deniability.
Just think of the USS Maine in 1898. This got the USA into the Cuban War of Independence.