Non lunatic shooting cops in Canada

[Burt Gummer]

There is an as of right now ongoing situation in Moncton New Brunswick Canada.

It is reported in the news that a man has shot dead 3 police officers and injured 2.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/715835-justin-bourque-idd-as-shooting-suspect-in-moncton-canada/




The man is outfitted with what appears to be a 30cal semiautomatic rifle, and a Mossberg 500 Tactical modified shotgun. as well as US milsurp pre-molle load bearing equipment and appropriate clothing.
It's reported that he refused shoot non Law enforcement persons when the opportunity presented it's self.

It is suspected that the person being sought is Justin Bourqe
His Facebook still appears to up on so check that out while you have the chance.
https://www.facebook.com/justin.bourque.5682
His posts though appear to be the most spectacular part of this news to me though.
He appears to be one of us....

Hunter
Online Gun Culture
Constitutional Conservative
Anti Militarized Police

[Burt Gummer]

Some personal photo's of him on FB.

[Burt Gummer]

And Shared Graphics from his Facebook time line.

[Burt Gummer]

There's mention of him in the description this paintball video from the area.

http://youtu.be/7vbBaigZmVQ

[JohnyMac]

Maybe it's Frosty 

[Well-Prepared Witch]

If he's murdering people, especially at random, I strongly disagree with the title of this post labeling him as "NON" lunatic.  That's something that someone sane wouldn't do. 

[Burt Gummer]

"Non Lunatic" seems to be accurate to me. He is discerning targets by only firing on police. This displays method. Police are also hardly harmless. And have a reputation for instigating and encouraging violent situations.

There is one major difference between what is reported in the news now, and what we know as a typical crazy guy with a gun.
There's no targeted location. He didn't attack a school, stadium, theater, police station, city hall. Which would be one of the first points on news released. The shooting was in an outlying subdivision of the city, hardly a "target rich" area.

The fact is that no one, including us seems to know the context of what happened. This would decide whether he's a murderer.

[Burt Gummer]

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/06/20140604-211416.html
Still at large as of 9:40am

I wonder why nobody is pointing out he's got a rifle and a shotgun?

[APX808]

He joins FB on "February 19" this year and creates an open FB account that anyone can see his posts to show his gun culture related thoughts, and goes on a killing spree dressed like Rambo just 4 months after that?

This sounds like an OP to me 

[special-k]

He joins FB on "February 19" this year and creates an open FB account that anyone can see his posts to show his gun culture related thoughts, and goes on a killing spree dressed like Rambo just 4 months after that?

This sounds like an OP to me 

Yup.  I was thinking the same thing.

[crudos]

Deep ender....

If he was really non-lunatic, he'd be wearing multi-cam, obviously. 

[Burt Gummer]

He joins FB on "February 19" this year and creates an open FB account that anyone can see his posts to show his gun culture related thoughts, and goes on a killing spree dressed like Rambo just 4 months after that?

This sounds like an OP to me 

If we look back at shootings that are (to some of us) clearly staged a high info dramatic new cycle obvious political agenda, The creepy crisis actors, such as Sandy Hook or Boston Bombing. and now compare it with this...
Raise your hand if you knew where Moncton New Brunswick was before this? I didn't. And why a subdivision there is a great area for a black flag?
Also these things tend to end up with a "suicide" or a "I though he was armed". This guy is still at large in the wood somewhere.

[APX808]

Also these things tend to end up with a "suicide" or a "I though he was armed". This guy is still at large in the wood somewhere.

Maybe this guy is gone to never show up again... That will fuel even more the tin foil hattery 

[Burt Gummer]

Aaand he's connected to preppers....
http://o.canada.com/news/moncton-shooting-suspect-wanted-to-go-out-with-a-bang
One of his the persons in the snow pictures. Works at a gun/prepper store called Worlds End Warehouse.

[rah45]

Weird. Isn't carrying around extra ammunition, and yet has two long guns.

[Kbop]

suicide by cop?  would explain the lack of ammo.

[Burt Gummer]

And he's purportedly arrested.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-moncton-shooting-suspect-in-police-custody-1.2666921

And the anti gun dialogue begins...

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[Leonidas]

Do you get the feeling that their false flags over the past 8 years aren't garnering the outrage they were hoping for, so they are becoming more frequent and more disjointed in the narrative?

It is interesting to note just how quickly the CO Theater shooting disappeared from the press as soon as it started to unravel. If it was legitimately what the public narrative said it was, they would still be milking it and following the court case.

Same with the Boston lockdown.  Gone away.......

They're still milking Aurora CO back from the 90's - that episode may have been legitimately what we're told it was.

I don't think you need to wear a tin-foil hat anymore to realize that something stinks in the victim disarmament meme.

It will be interesting to see how this one unfolds.  I guess they have captured him now (I'm surprised he was arrested.  Cop killers in the USA get shot on sight).

[Burt Gummer]

I find it strange that this topic just kind of died out.
Big news.
Big deal.
Good discussion bound to ensue  (this being a FORUM and all)
Yet here I sit disappointed...

[special-k]

 

[APX808]

It seems the new trend is just to read and not post 

[Burt Gummer]

Searching the net, I still can't find a "motive" or "trigger" that started the shooting in Moncton.
Did find this inter view with an acquaintance / friend of his that was interesting.
http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/features/2014/06/05/friend-of-accused-moncton-police-killer-justin-bourque-says-hes-still-in-shock/
An other friend described him as “an awesome guy” & "“the life of the party.”
http://o.canada.com/news/national/justin-bourque-life-of-the-party-more-into-music-and-drinking-than-guns
 
His parents were said to said that "they tried to get him help" "even with the police" but no further elaboration is given about "it".

It would be silly to ignore that as members of this forum we are related to Justin's stance on many subjects. But I doubt any of us would go on a shooting spree.
For myself. My belief in the non aggression principle acts as a safeguard for that. Also being aware that violent situations tend to escalate depending on who they are with. (especially the police.)

What is it that makes you the reader confident in your position?
And do you this that Bourque might have lacked this?

[JohnyMac]

And then there was the "odd" shooting in Lost Wages this weekend.

Huffington Post Reports
Two police officers were "simply having lunch" at a strip mall pizza buffet in Las Vegas when a man and a woman fatally shot them at point-blank range, then fled to a nearby Walmart where they killed a third person and then themselves in an apparent suicide pact, authorities said.

The attack at a CiCi's Pizza restaurant Sunday killed Officers Alyn Beck, 41, and Igor Soldo, 31, who are both husbands and fathers. One of the shooters yelled, "This is a revolution," but a motive remains under investigation, Las Vegas police spokesman Larry Hadfield told The Associated Press.

"It's a tragic day," Sheriff Doug Gillespie said at a news conference Sunday afternoon. "But we still have a community to police, and we still have a community to protect. We will be out there doing it with our heads held high, but with an emptiness in our hearts."

I heard on the radio this morning that the two shooters had a Gadsden flag at their home.

I wonder if we will be hearing an increase of these kind of events. 

[Kentactic]

If he's murdering people, especially at random, I strongly disagree with the title of this post labeling him as "NON" lunatic.  That's something that someone sane wouldn't do.

Police are a constant threat to peoples freedom. If you do not do what they say then you go to jail. If you refuse physically then they are willing to kill you if thats what it takes to get compliance. I do not fault him for deciding he must defensively engage police. Its a sad situation for the police and him. The police believe they are the good guys and are doing the right thing. Unfortunately its not the case.

I would explain the situation as this. A mentally retarded guy is attacking a man with a knife. I hate to see anyone harmed but I dont fault the guy being attacked for defensively killing the mentally retarded guy.

The police would be the mentally retarded guy. They don't know any better but they are attacking people.

You can't fault a free man for deciding that his freedom is worth defending with his life. He is not murdering police. They forced his hand in his eyes. He was not the initial aggressor.

[Kentactic]

I am not interested in going on a cop shooting spree. I feel I have other more peaceful options. However I do feel that it is within the guidelines of the non-aggression principal to defend yourself from government oppression, be it local, state or federal law enforcement. Every man has his breaking point when he says enough is enough. We are now starting to see the first guys to say enough now. Many more will likely be popping up in the near future. It will become a regular occurrence.

Burt is absolutely right in saying that many of us have much in common with this Canadian man.