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General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: JohnyMac on May 15, 2023, 09:36:05 AM

Title: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 15, 2023, 09:36:05 AM
The plan is,

> Push Russia till they do something stupid like fire off some tactical nukes,
> Then with the rhetoric, AKA propaganda, spread by the complicit media, "oh the children"..."oh the horror", ala Iraq's eapons
    of mass destruction,
> NATO rolls into Ukraine to fight the Russians.

This scenario is as clear as the hair on the tip of my nose. 

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Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky said Sunday that a planned counteroffensive by his country is not aimed at attacking areas inside of Russia, but is meant to free occupied territory in his nation.

Zelensky, speaking alongside German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, made the statement following speculation that Ukraine may target Russian territory in its military counteroffensive.

?We don?t attack Russian territory, we liberate our own legitimate territory,? Zelensky told reporters. ?We have neither the time nor the strength (to attack Russia).?
- The Hill (https://thehill.com/policy/international/4003688-zelensky-says-ukraine-will-not-attack-russian-territory-in-counteroffensive/)

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Felix on May 15, 2023, 09:54:20 AM
A Polish ?migr?  in my neighborhood is all for driving Russia our of Ukraine - he harbors a visceral distrust/hatred of Russians.   And in view of history he and family in living memory have lived, this is understandable.
What he does not appreciate is the Russian viewpoint that includes (also in "living memory") two invasions that crossed the Ukrainian lands, Napoleon and Hitler.     Russia's capital does not enjoy much buffer of distance from Ukraine's border.
When Kruschev started placing nuclear-capable missiles in Cuba, Americans obviously felt that was too close for comfort.     And when we kept advancing NATO towards Russian borders, I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians felt threatened.
Plenty of emotional fuel based on historical calculation.
And even more fuel having nothing to do with history except that in the making.
Our cabal of "elites" actually think they can shape everything, even tickle the nuclear dragon's tail without fatal consequences.    Will we be lucky, will they slip safely past this game of Armageddon chicken?
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 15, 2023, 10:04:05 AM
Well written Felix.

Just my 2 cents...

The EU and the USA need a war in Eastern EU. One because their economy is collapsing and the other for political reasons. Then we have the WEF (The Klaus crowd) who would like a war so they can implement their "Great Reset".

With so many neocons, oligarchy's, and politicians wanting war, it will come. The question is when. I think fall of this year. Perfect timing for the lead up to 2024 and the national elections in the States. 
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: grizz on May 15, 2023, 11:26:25 AM
I believe this war is a set-up being used to remove individual Rights from Americans and other semi-free peoples
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 15, 2023, 11:42:09 AM
ALA the Patriot Act II.
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: grizz on May 19, 2023, 06:46:02 PM
ALA the Patriot Act II.

Sad but true
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 20, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Sure Grizz, why not. Just like the 911 attack brought us the Patriot Act.  :thumbsUp:
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: grizz on May 20, 2023, 01:47:07 PM
Sure Grizz, why not. Just like the 911 attack brought us the Patriot Act.  :thumbsUp:

With all I've seen in the past 15ish years, I would not be surprised at all if "our" govt had their dirty, sticky fingers involved in the 911 attacks
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 22, 2023, 10:43:42 AM
I still think we (NATO) will have major troops on the ground in Ukraine by the end of the fall.

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But something else is cooking, as some in the American intelligence community know and have reported in secret, at the instigation of government officials at various levels in Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Czechoslovakia, and Latvia. These countries are all allies of Ukraine and declared enemies of Vladimir Putin.

This group is led by Poland, whose leadership no longer fears the Russian army because its performance in Ukraine has left the glow of its success at Stalingrad during the Second World War in tatters. It has been quietly urging Zelensky to find a way to end the war?even by resigning himself, if necessary?and to allow the process of rebuilding his nation to get under way. Zelensky is not budging, according to intercepts and other data known inside the Central Intelligence Agency, but he is beginning to lose the private support of his neighbors.
- Zero Hedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/seymour-hersh-something-else-cooking-ukraine)

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Felix on May 22, 2023, 05:15:37 PM
"Perfect timing for the lead up to 2024 and the national elections in the States. " - JM

IF the neocons/WEF are able to jack things up enough in Ukraine (ie: use of nukes/blowing up stuff like we did to Russian gas line in Baltic, etc), then I begin to entertain doubts we even _have_ a 2424 election.    Emergency Powers, Martial Law, Make-It-Up-As-You-Go-Needed (which they are doing already).   With a host of 3-letter Agencies staffed and ready to go with false flag acts of outright treason.
Here on UP, the Outrageous is Entertained.
Oh really?    Well, Noah built his Ark and the Fact Checkers drowned.
To share as you see fit:
"Being a 'conspiracy theorist' is spending endless hours for years & years gathering as much information as possible from as many resources as possible and critically thinking about what that information means ... then having people who do nothing but watch TV tell you you're crazy".
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 22, 2023, 06:08:09 PM
Add to your comments and others here...

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WASHINGTON (AP) ? FBI officials repeatedly violated their own standards when they searched a vast repository of foreign intelligence for information related to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and racial justice protests in 2020, according to a heavily blacked-out court order released Friday.

FBI officials said the thousands of violations, which also include improper searches of donors to a congressional campaign, predated a series of corrective measures that started in the summer of 2021 and continued last year. But the problems could nonetheless complicate FBI and Justice Department efforts to receive congressional reauthorization of a warrantless surveillance program that law enforcement officials say is needed to counter terrorism, espionage and international cybercrime.
- Court House News (https://www.courthousenews.com/fbi-broke-rules-in-scouring-foreign-intelligence-on-jan-6-riot-racial-justice-protests-court-says/)

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on May 31, 2023, 09:55:46 AM
UK endorses Ukraine's right to attack Russian territory despite US anxiety (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/uk-endorses-ukraine-right-to-attack-russia-despite-us)

Moscow and Kyiv attacks underline Ukraine war's escalation (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/moscow-kyiv-attacks-underline-ukraine-escalation)

I stand by my prediction.

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Sir John Honeybucket on May 31, 2023, 04:53:37 PM
British public officials are a "legitimate military target"
 because of the UK's support for Ukraine, former Russian
 president Dmitry Medvedev has warned. Mr Medvedev,
 deputy chairman of Vladimir Putin's security council,
 claimed the UK's support for Kyiv amounted to an
 "undeclared war" against Russia.


TICK, TICK, TICK...
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on June 01, 2023, 08:42:34 AM
Worth your time to watch or listen to. A Glenn Beck chalk Board on the war in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDi7ZJco0wU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDi7ZJco0wU)

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on June 08, 2023, 01:11:57 PM
Ukrainian soldiers are being asked to hide their Nazi symbolism from the world press.

The surprising Monday Times headline said that "Nazi Symbols on Ukraine?s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History." This acknowledgement comes after literally years of primarily indy journalists and geopolitical commentators pointing out that yes indeed... Ukraine's military and paramilitary groups, especially those operating in the east since at least 2014, have a serious Nazi ideology problem. This has been exhaustively documented, again, going back years. But the report, which merely tries to downplay it as a "thorny issue" of Ukraine's "unique" "History" - suggests that the real problem for Western PR is fundamentally that it's being displayed so openly. Ukrainian troops are being asked to cover those Nazi symbols please!--as Matt Taibbi sarcastically quipped in commenting on the report. - Zero Hedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits)

These facts deserve their own post however, they fall under this overall umbrella so I posted it here.

The war drams are getting louder by the day.

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Sir John Honeybucket on June 08, 2023, 06:27:02 PM
Are Russian soldiers told to hide their SOVIET flags and paraphernalia too ?  Naaah, I didn't think so.  Saw too many Russian tanks flying the Blood Red Communist flag.
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on June 12, 2023, 03:48:35 PM
You will not hear this in the MSM.

Yes Ukraine started an offensive. It isn't going well for them and the dollars in the form of munitions you sent over there.

https://youtu.be/m4eyW_87Z74
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on June 29, 2023, 10:18:31 AM
Question: What happens if a false flag happens in Ukraine executed by NATO? Will it be enough to launch NATO into Ukraine?

One false flag might be a nuclear leak of the nuclear power plan in Ukraine that Russia controls.  Remember The Maine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1889)) comes to mind.

Keep an eye on Neocon Hawk Sen. Lindsey Graham. He has already floated the possibility of NATO going into Ukraine to prevent the Russians from blowing up the afore mentioned Ukrainian nuclear power plant.

Remember, Operation Northwoods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods).

Stay tuned...

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: FeedingFreedom on June 29, 2023, 12:18:18 PM
Judas Pence just turned up in Ukraine, probably to check on his share of the money laundering or worse.
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on June 29, 2023, 07:31:50 PM
Yupper FF...Yupper.  :thumbsUp:
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: grizz on June 29, 2023, 07:41:41 PM
Judas Pence just turned up in Ukraine, probably to check on his share of the money laundering or worse.

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on July 03, 2023, 09:41:28 AM
Interesting interview with Martin Armstrong about the current USA coup and the coming World War III.

https://rumble.com/v2wpxik-living-in-a-coup-with-massive-election-rigging-and-war-martin-armstrong.html

I am standing by my prediction on NATO entering the war in Ukraine by the Fall.
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on July 03, 2023, 10:31:22 AM
More to support my prediction...

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On the war crisis, the dark powers running the world want war.  Why?  Morgan says, ?It covers up all the things that are wrong, and it also takes them off the hook.  It was the war.  The war did it.  All wars are bankers? wars, and they are on both sides.  They make money regardless. . . . The main things are profit, but it also is mitigating their responsibilities.  They can get most people to think that it was the war that caused all this poverty, and, of course, the war will do that. . . . They don?t have a real conflict with Ukraine and Russia.  They just need a way out, and it is the most profitable way out.  They are going to default on all this debt, and this is how they are going to do it.? - Economist David Morgan on USAWATCHDOG (https://usawatchdog.com/nothing-can-stop-currency-crisis-war-crisis-david-morgan/)

Stay tuned...

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: mfitzy111 on July 03, 2023, 03:33:54 PM
More to support my prediction...

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On the war crisis, the dark powers running the world want war.  Why?  Morgan says, ?It covers up all the things that are wrong, and it also takes them off the hook.  It was the war.  The war did it.  All wars are bankers? wars, and they are on both sides.  They make money regardless. . . . The main things are profit, but it also is mitigating their responsibilities.  They can get most people to think that it was the war that caused all this poverty, and, of course, the war will do that. . . . They don?t have a real conflict with Ukraine and Russia.  They just need a way out, and it is the most profitable way out.  They are going to default on all this debt, and this is how they are going to do it.? - Economist David Morgan on USAWATCHDOG (https://usawatchdog.com/nothing-can-stop-currency-crisis-war-crisis-david-morgan/)

Stay tuned...

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wow-

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-dont-think-well-ever-get-2024-election-col-douglas-macgregor-ret-warns (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-dont-think-well-ever-get-2024-election-col-douglas-macgregor-ret-warns)

*shrug* - check out Gerald Celente last week on his show...saying markets will likely show the truth, about Oct/Nov -so fall you say? yeah I concur. sure looks about like everything is going to happen about the same time.

~Fitzy111
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on July 03, 2023, 06:15:08 PM
Col. McGregor is a good guy.  :thumbsUp:
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Nemo on July 04, 2023, 08:07:20 AM
Yes, October/November gets started.  Just when things start to get colder and 7-8 months before most spring harvests will be coming in.

Make sure the larder is full.

Add a jar or case of PB too!

Nemo
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Deathstyle on July 04, 2023, 01:48:43 PM
I think China has start its blitz on the Orient before Russia makes its moves on NATO cough US cough
Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: JohnyMac on July 18, 2023, 03:17:47 PM
So there you go. Reservists Called Up.

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command?s area of responsibility.  In furtherance of this operation, under the stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, under their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve, as they deem necessary, and to terminate the service of those units and members ordered to active duty. - President Joe Biden, White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/13/ordering-the-selected-reserve-and-certain-members-of-the-individual-ready-reserve-of-the-armed-forces-to-active-duty/)

Stay Tuned

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Title: Re: My Prediction - NATO Enters War In Ukraine By Fall
Post by: Felix on July 18, 2023, 08:42:29 PM
"Col. McGregor is a good guy."

Being human, he is not infallible.
But I'd guess all of us here are inclined to be found in the cohort that recognizes integrity and broad-based experience.

 The man both informs and warns.

Plan accordingly.