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Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« on: March 22, 2014, 11:32:20 PM »


Source: http://www.abqjournal.com/372376/abqnewsseeker/apd-releases-info-about-fatal-officer-involved-shooting.html
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The illegal camper shot by Albuquerque police this week was turning away from officers when they fired at him, according to video released by Chief Gorden Eden on Friday.

The shots come after a confrontation in which the man, identified as 38-year-old James Boyd, tells police he’s going to walk down the mountain with them.

“Don’t change up the agreement,” Boyd says. “I’m going to try to walk with you.”

He tells officers he’s not a murderer.

Boyd picks up his belongings and appears ready to walk down toward officers. An officer fires a flash-bang device, which disorients Boyd.

Boyd appears to pull out knives in both hands as an officer with a dog approaches him. He makes a threatening motion toward the officer, then starts to turn around away from police.

That’s when shots ring out, and Boyd hits the ground. Blood can be seen on the rocks behind him.

Of Course the Albuquerque police said officers were justified in murdering this man because he had made “threatening moves” from 30 feet away.

Below is a summary of Eden’s comments from a news conference held on Friday.

Below is a summary of Eden’s comments, as he made them.

– Chief Eden said APD has interviewed 40 witnesses so far, and that the suspect was sleeping as officers approached.
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– The chief showed a video of the incident. It shows officers telling the man to show his hands. They demand repeatedly: “Put the knife down!”

– In the video, Boyd tells officers he’s been trying to contact APD for months. He talks almost non-stop. Officers keep their guns trained on him.

– Chief Eden said the suspect continued to rant after a crisis-intervention officer arrived. The suspect tells officers he’s an agent of the Department of Defense.

– Officers appear to fire less-than-lethal rounds, after which the man drops to ground with the knife still in his hand. They also fired live-rounds, but it’s not clear from the video which shots were live and which weren’t.

– The chief said the suspect is 38 years old and that he refused to follow directions.

– Chief Eden said the man was hit by a live round, but did not say that’s what killed him.

– Eden said the man made a threatening move toward an officer, and that’s what triggered the shooting. The shooting was justified, Eden said.

– Two officers fired shots, the chief says.

– A public information officer announces that the news conference is over. Eden continues taking a few questions before finally walking out as a Journal reporter continues to ask questions.


I think it's obvious that things arn't adding up. And that "illegal camping" is a post murder excuse charge. For what ever reason the police had for sending a full swat team out to confront this one camping man the point is now mute for James Boyd is now dead, despite his attempts to deescalate the situation. Because instead of aprehending him and giving him his day in court the police used "non lethal" force, leading Boyd to drawing two pocket knives against an attack dog, granting police the excuse of murdering him.

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Re: Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 11:38:06 PM »
Cops love to murder. No two ways about it. They actually do it in good conscious truely believing they are the good guys. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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Re: Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 12:14:46 PM »
I was not there so I will not judge the LEO's on this one.

My question is and has been for the past several years; Why are we sending in SWAT or some other "door knock down troopers" when a simple 1:1 discussion is needed. I miss the days of Sheriff Taylor and Deputy Sheriff Fife.

I know I told this story before however it is worth retelling.

August 1974: I drove out from LA to pick up my buddy from the Boy Scout camp in Cimarron NM. He had been playing a scout councilor there for the summer.

On the way home to LA we wanted to see the Grand Canyon so we took a northerly route out of NM into AZ. By the time we got to the Canyon gates it was way late so we pulled over to a rest area and proceeded to roll-out our sleeping mat and bags to catch a few ZZZZZ's before the canyon opened up the next morning.

About 6 O' clock in the morning I awoke to someone kicking the soles of my feet in the sleeping bag. I slowly rolled over, with a .22 Stoeger Luger in my hand which I always slept with and looked up. There standing over me looking down was a AZ. State Trooper.

He asked, "What are you boys doing here?" I told him we were planning on checking out the Grand Canyon on our way back to California. We had gotten here late and thought we would catch some shut-eye before the Canyon opened.

He nodded his head and then informed us that the rest area was not a public camp grounds and it was time to pack up and move on. He then told us as he walked away that the Canyon opens up at 7:00AM and no open fires were allowed at the rest stop area.

Well we quickly packed up and vamoosed.

The point of the story is:
1) One State Trooper questioned us,
2) He didn't know it but I had a handgun trained on him the whole time, and
3) He was polite, told us that we couldn't camp at the rest stop and asked us to move on.

Never once did he ask us for ID, search us or bring in the flippen SWATT team.

Now a days I suspect we would have been searched, a background check done and ran in for having a handgun at 18 years of age.  :facepalm:
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 07:47:30 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 06:02:16 PM »
Pretty much sums up why I don't trust or respect cops these days nothing but a bunch of vicious jackals.

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Re: Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 12:28:08 PM »
James Boyd was believe it or not, illegally camping.

A crime I am guilty of. Thank God APD never walked up on me while I was cooking dinner.. No doubt I'd have had a gun on my hip and a knife in my hand.

We've been celebrating our 1st amendment right to protest and the police have shown amazing restraint. We shut down Route 66 for 5 hours yesterday. I25 was also momentarily shut down twice. It wasn't until the protest found itself on the steps of the main police station that the police got out of sorts. I can't say I blame them, the crowd had already mobbed a sub station and spray painted "Fuck the Police" on a sub station.

Most of the horror show happened after I had left, I wasn't gonna take my tear gas refresher course on the streets of my fair city.

I mostly hung out on the outskirts of the crowd and enjoyed the sights and sounds. Having a police scanner was an interesting addition the the days events.   

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 01:10:00 PM »
Sorry man, but what protest? I have heard nothing about it on TV or the web.

I just did a google search and here is the first article I came to.

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Hundreds of protesters angry over recent Albuquerque police shootings clashed with riot officers for more than 10 hours, calling on the police chief and other city officials to resign.

Gas canisters were thrown outside police headquarters and at one point protesters trapped police in a vehicle and tried to break its windows. Mayor Richard Berry said Sunday that one officer was injured during the protest.

Bernalillo County sheriff's deputies charging at the protesters late Sunday mostly dispersed the crowds.

Video by KRQE-TV showed people being led away in zip-tie restraints, but it's unclear if those people were arrested or if any protesters were injured. Multiple messages left with police weren't immediately returned.

"We respected their rights to protest, obviously," Berry said, "but what it appears we have at this time is individuals who weren't connected necessarily with the original protest. They've taken it far beyond a normal protest."


I wonder why it hasn't at least been a 15 minute blurb in the news?
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Re: Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 01:54:06 PM »
...I wonder why it hasn't at least been a 15 minute blurb in the news?
I'd say because this is truly grassroots/spontaneous, and not orchestrated by the PTB such as the "occupy" protests.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 03:43:40 PM »
Yeah I guess SK.
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Re: Militarized Cops Kill A Man For Illegal Camping.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 03:47:48 PM »
This is bullshit man, all of those cops should be in jail as we discuss this.

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 05:20:19 PM »
I can't tell you how happy I am to hear you guys are not taking this shit laying down. And then to hear that this kind of police murder is common down there...  :gunner:

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 06:10:55 PM »
Hey TG
Made ya a little something.

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 09:04:43 PM »
Sweet!!

Sunday's protest was spontaneous and completely devoid of any leadership. It was incredible to have been a part of that. The atmospherics changed by the minute and location. It was wild watching people go from being jubilant to pissed off to chasing riot cops around.

The police reaction was a trip. They had he foresight to infiltrate the crowd and place spotters in the buildings downtown but when the protest took off the police were caught flat footed.

Individual officers tried to turn the crowd back into down town and they got mobbed and there was never a broadcast advising patrol officers how to proceed. Those poor beat cops just got surrounded and we're essentially at the mercy of the crowd. Had they done anything even remotely aggressive it would have been ugly. The response was so disjointed that pairs of officers in full riot kit were chased off literally chased off the route of march. It was fantastic. With out knowing that they were doing it the crowd repeatedly flanked the riot cops, feinted withdrawal and kept the police stepping and fetching.

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2014, 08:02:08 AM »
Also I was wondering if you would be willing to inform us on these riot cops in the picture an all the rest I keep seeing. They are REALLY well equipped. High dollar top notch gear, cammo'd up. instead of your standard "intimidate black" color. Does Albuequerque have a large tax source I'm not aware of with which they can as a department afford this?  C:-)

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 09:24:04 AM »
Great report (s) ThatGuy, keep 'em coming.

I am familiar with the excitement you felt being part of this Sundays event. In 1979 I was involved in a "gas protest" that resulted in many many police being called in from surrounding towns and villages. The police and local papers called it a riot but in reality it was a protest.

Hereis a blurb I found online about it.
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Tuesday will mark the 30th anniversary of the nation's first gasoline riots in Levittown... On a hot Saturday afternoon about 5 p.m. June, 23, 1979, Bristol Township police officer Bob Hairhoger, was responding to an accident on New Falls Road near Red Cedar Drive... What would transpire a few moments later would grab international headlines, result in hundreds of arrests and nearly 200 police officers battling with protesters because of the second Arab oil embargo, which dried up tanks throughout the country... The Truckers: Jim Halikman, now 67, a former Bristol Township officer, and Hairhoger's partner at the time, said what originally was planned as a peaceful demonstration turned ugly...  The truckers' intentions were not malicious, said Bob Evans, 60, owner of Evans' Trucking along Route 13 in Tullytown...   Evans said none of his truckers were involved in the melee, nor got involved in any protests...  He did say most of the truckers involved were independents hauling products out of the former U.S. Steel mill in Falls... Sam Farruggio, also 60, owner of Farruggio's Expressway, Bristol Borough, said he cannot remember if any of the independent drivers working for him were involved... Steven Lankin, 68, has owned Five Points Getty since 1964, and remembers those three chaotic days vividly...   Given the price of gas and that it continues to rise, Lankin fears another gas riot could take place...  "Only this time, they won't be throwing rocks and beer bottles. They will be bringing guns and this time people are gonna get shot. I fear guns this time because it's the easy way out. Nobody fights with their hands anymore," he said...  (Chronicle photo by John Storey, from 2.bp.blogspot.com: Riot protesters burned police cars)


I was in my final year of college and MrsMac and I were visiting her parents house which was about 3/4 of a mile from Five Points. Long haul truckers nation wide were on strike due to the lack of availability and price of fuel.

Even 3/4 of a mile away we could hear the truckers driving through Five Points tooting their horns. I told everyone I was going to walk up to Five Points and try and get some pictures for an article I was writing. "I should be back in an hour" I told everyone.

Well when I got to Five Points there was maybe 100 folks standing there cheering the truckers as they rolled through the intersection. To get a better camera shot of the fun I climbed up a semi that was parked next to a Getty gas station sign and moved over onto the sign. By the end of the night I was sharing that sign with three other folks.

The excitement I felt just seemed to get higher and higher as more and more Levittown folks showed up at the famous intersection.

So if you are not "crazy busy" TG, give us the Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How.  :thumbsUp:

PS: When I got back to the in-laws house about 5 hours later. MrsMac handed me my head!  :DrillSgt:  :o

 


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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2014, 03:23:39 PM »
If someone is shooting a shotgun at me they better be using real ammo because im going to assume they are. I cant get hit first to find out.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2014, 10:47:22 PM »
Who:
County of Bernalillo Sheriff's Department
Albuquerque Police Department
vs
People of Bernalillo and surrounding counties

What:
A civil protest against the militarization of local police forces gone wrong

When:
Sunday, March 30, 2014 noon to midnight

Where:
Downtown Albuquerque, University of New Mexico campus, Nob Hill and Uptown Albuquerque, New Mexico.

How and Why:
I'm gonna put this bluntly, Albuquerque is fucked up. We suffer from crippling poverty and all the ills that come with it, substance abuse, homelessness, petty crime, domestic violence, crappy public education, practically non existent public transport and a culture of oppression or should I say a history of being oppressed have contributed to a very hard people living in a very hard land. They say that a man is most dangerous when he has nothing left to lose.. Most New Mexicans never had nothing period, because of that we've driven cars and trucks with broken windshields, bad tires and expired registration. When you live like that you learn to fear the police because even when you're not doing something wrong you are.

It's hard to describe what its like to live like that.

When you add into that mix an International Airport (flights from Mexico), Sandia National Labs, Los Alamos National Lab, WIPP, the busiest interstate junction in America (I40&I25) and a wildly unguarded border you get a literal alphabet soup of .gov agencies and a flood of federal grants to fund police agencies. The peace must be kept here if you want Californian produce to reach the east coast plan and simple. On top of all that federal 'drug war' grants are awarded based upon the number of busts not the quantity of drugs seized nor the effect of the busts. Its pretty easy to get those numbers when 1:4 arrests turn up at least a little weed. 

So its been going like that since the mid 90s. More cops, better equipment and more resentment from both sides. Everyone who grew up here has at least one horror story about an encounter with the police, everyone knows someone who has been beaten and most of us know someone who got killed. In a town of 500k the police have shot 39 people since 2010 killing 23 of them. Hell boys they shot two people last night and they might not survive it. Yeah, within 24 hours of firing tear gas into crowds of people who want only one thing.. Less police shootings.

As fucked as New Mexico is and as fucked as us New Mexicans are you've got to understand that we are by and large a proud, honest and faithful people.. Well mostly honest.. Sure will spit in the bag a little when we sell some weed or take a pinch when we middle man some but your gonna get a bag come hell or high high water. We have a twisted moral code but we do believe in fairness and shooting a man who has just given his word in the fucking back isn't gonna ride here.

If we weren't so proud of our town it would have been put to the torch Sunday night.. There is always next Sunday..
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 08:55:45 AM »
GREAT write-up ThatGuy!  :thumbsUp:

To your point TG from November 7, 2013
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Lawsuit: Cops forced man to undergo enemas, colonoscopy on invalid warrant

(CNN) -- A New Mexico man is suing police for allegedly "subjecting him to multiple digital penetrations and three enemas," among other "shockingly invasive medical procedures" -- all on an invalid warrant, all without finding any drugs -- his lawyers claim.

The lawsuit states that David Eckert, 54, spent more than 12 hours in custody last January at a police station and local hospital after being pulled over for a traffic violation. Yet he was never charged, nor did authorities find illicit substances on him.

"Defendants acted completely outside the bounds of human decency by orchestrating wholly superfluous physical body cavity searches performed by an unethical medical professional," states the lawsuit, which was filed earlier this year but has garnered more public attention in recent days.

Police in Deming, New Mexico, did not return multiple messages left by CNN on Wednesday seeking their side of the story. The city attorney's office also did not offer an immediate comment after being contacted Wednesday.

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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 03:02:28 PM »
Deming is in the SW corner of the state but yeah... At leas they didn't finger James Boyd's ass..

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 07:02:58 PM »
Thanks TG had no idea it was an important shit hole. (referring to Albuquerque)

Also this happened



Flag upside down is not an insult, it's  distress call. Every army dickhead knows that, I wonder what the deal is with these marines.

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 08:23:11 PM »
Yeah, I saw that happen.. I'm not gonna dive into the psychology but I'm sure even dipshit jarheads are people too.

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 11:11:58 PM »
DOJ just handed APD a wicked smack down.

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/217483593#fullscreen

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2014, 06:38:20 AM »
A very thorough and blistering report. I could not believe some of the things I read in this report, much less why it taken so long for this investigation. I truely feel for the citizens of this community, they deserve better. I only hope that some actions are taken and not lip service. I hope to be reading of some prosecutions of officers and supervisory personnel in the coming months and a total house cleaning via their revamped early warning system (which they have obviously not utilized), but does work when used correctly.

Unfortunately, it is probably going take time to reorganize and there will be more victims during the process, but this report will surely assist future victims of abuse by this dept. in their legal preparations. If I lived there, I'd be printing my copy of this report. Unbelieveable they have been able to operate this dept. this long in this condition. Oversight can't happen quickly enough for the citizens.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2014, 09:52:06 AM »
This report probably only came about because of the citizens in Albuquerque went to the streets in protest.  In many departments around the country police tyranny goes on.  There are good departments out there who operate within the confines of the Constitution, but in many cities, it really resembles a thug state. 



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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 06:57:07 PM »
Your's truly engaged in civil discourse with an 'off duty cop' at the support for Albuquerque Police Rally.

APD Supporters Interrupt Interview With Retired Cop Not Supporting APD


The crowd of moral upstanding citizens got pretty ugly..

APD Supports Confront Anti APD Supporters
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