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gadget99

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I am dumbstruck
« on: May 15, 2016, 03:39:56 PM »
I cannot fathom and understand the press here in the UK.

They freaking love Hillary and want her to be President.

There is absolutly no reporting on her transgressions.

My fear is that the American public feel's the same way.

Here is my prediction.

There is a significant chance she is going to be elected. Then Obaman will extend amnisty for her before leaving office.

If I am wrong then if you ever get to the UK I will take you to my local pub and buy all the drinks.

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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 04:47:13 PM »
I was told by a good friend of mine that her mother will be voting for Hillary.  Her mother is a well-off, self-made, socially conservative type, business woman (CPA).  For the life of me, I can't figure out what is going on in her head...maybe dementia?
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I did hear something about her thinking that "Trump is too much of an alpha-male to have his finger on the nuclear button."  I guess she has never heard about Trump's anti-perpetual war(s) stance.
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 07:49:17 PM »
I got a sneaking suspicion that hiLIARy just might be indicted on some misdemeanor charges or Comey and a fair number of higher ups in the FBI will resign while making a bit of noise about it all.

Should that happen its Trump v Sanders and Bloomberg may try to be the middleman with Biden coming in as the savior of the democratic party.

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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 09:57:04 PM »
Since Trump is an absolute NIGHTMARE, and I fear most people have a stupid, knee-jerk reaction to the word socialist (despite the fact that a Democratic Socialist is nothing like the Red Communist of which people are still so frightened), I'm afraid it'll have to be Hillary.  The one upside to her is that at least we know who owns her - Wall Street.  Trump is too stupid, too bigoted, too xenophobic, too loudmouthed, and too much of a misogynistic dick to get elected, thank gods (or rather, please gods don't let that jackass get elected).  Bernie is too liberal for most people, though he has my vote.  Hillary at least is status quo and won't likely run us into the ground.  We'll let the repugs who run in 2020 or 2024 do that.
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 10:39:38 PM »
Oh yeah, I almost forget the best thing (by far) about Trump...is the kind of people who don't like him.
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It's the old "enemy of my enemy" thingy.
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 09:25:55 AM »
Trump is so all over the place on his opinions, i feel like he's playing me for a fool with a really short term memory.  so not Trump under any circumstances.

H.Clinton is, has lied to the public.  is owned  by the 1%.  so not H.Clinton.

B.Sanders would probably bankrupt us - sure implement programs galore.  then watch the law suits and foot dragging in the congress stop the taxes to offset it...  bad recipe, so not B.Sanders

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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 10:41:52 AM »
Gadget, the press here is becoming more and more anti Mrs. Clinton - Cable & MSM. She just has too much baggage I think even for them.

Personally Wellie, I to wish that Sen. Sanders would be the Democratic Presidential candidate. I think there needs to be a national discussion on Capitalism and Socialism. The Elites in the democratic party will never allow this even if the FBI recommends indictment of Clinton though. They will pull someone out of moth balls to run.

One thing the forum may not be aware of - Lenin coined the phrase "Democratic Socialism" when he allowed limited capitalism in 1921. The State coffers were empty so he allowed limited capitalism and a more softer stance hence the Democratic Socialism term vs. Communism to try and fill them.

Now on Mr. Trump....My barometer on him as we lead up to the November Presidential election is whether Rep. Ryan and others get behind his candidacy. Add to that statement a list of whom he would want to be on his cabinet and Justices he would nominate for the SCOTUS. Today, my concern of Trump are his comments which seem to be Statism with some Nationalistic nuances thrown in for good measure. Being a President is not the same as being a King or Emperor. You have two other equal branches of government to deal with. Mr. Obama has forgotten this fact.

Interesting story: Yesterday MrsMac and I went to our favorite Sunday breakfast restaurant. The place became packed after we sat down and the owner asked us if a couple could sit at our 4-top. We of course said "Sure."

The couple was a father and daughter. The father was in his early 80's and had a stroke about a year ago which he shared with us as soon as he sat down. His daughter was in her late 40's/early 50's.

As we chatted MrsMac and I found out that the daughter was a teacher of 5th graders. Her specialty was reading. After chatting about spring crops, wood cutting and the past deer season, the conversation changed to politics.

The daughter told us that she was a Sen. Sanders fan. I asked her why? She told us, "I think that the people we send to Washington are in cahoots with the capitalists on Wall Street." She continued with, "And Hillary is at the top of the food chain of that group of folks."

She then asked us who we were supporting for President.

MrsMac explained that she liked Cruz because he was a Constitutionalist and he was an outsider in DC. I agreed and said, "with Sen. Cruz suspending his run we are two citizens without a candidate." The dad asked us why we were not getting on the Trump bandwagon and I told him that "Trump has not won us over as yet and may not."

For kicks and giggles I asked the dad who was he going to vote for. His response was, "Trump!" I asked him to elaborate and he said, "I have voted Democrat all of my life with the exception of Reagan in 80 and didn't vote for Obama's second term - I stayed home that election." He continued with, "Hillary is crook and I think Trump doesn't give a shit what the newspapers or other politicians think." I said, "Kind of like Reagan?" He replied with a firm, "YUP!"

I do believe that the rank and file across the country are feeling like the father and daughter sitting with us Sunday. I wonder how many other conversations like the one we had are being discussed that Sunday and Sunday's to come at breakfast joints across the country.       
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 12:44:35 PM »
I truly don't understand Trumpers. Do they not understand the disaster this guy is?  Here's an article I was just reading where the former IMF chief economist predicts a Trump presidency plunging the world into a recession - or maybe even a near miss if he comes close he could still destabilize everything.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Y7051
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 04:05:39 PM »
 Well I think it’s about time I join the conversation and give my opinion . My wife and I are Constitutional  Conservatives  who are also Trumpers as are our democrat step children their children. Why are we voting for Trump? Because doesn’t care what the media says about him, because he is anti-political correctness. He knows to have a viable country their cannot be a Rainbow Coalition everyone must be AMERICAN First.
To be a country you have to have borders and one language.   
  The media and never Trump people want him to be specific ( funny they never ask democrats to be specific) , well I haven’t read The Art Of The Deal  but I bet one of the chapters deals with not telling your opponent  what your going to do.
 Trump is an ALMOST CONSERTIVE who can get things done which I feel is better than a CONSERTIVE who is hated by his fellow REPUBLICANS and won’t be able to get things done because of their hatred. They don’t hate trump but they’re Scared to death of him.
  He must be an honest person because the IRS audits him every year and doesn’t find anything.
As for Bernie the Socialist well take a look at Venezuela.
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By the way wasn’t it Lennen who coined the term Socialist Capitalism when he realized that socialism doesn’t work.   
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 04:33:01 PM »
As in John Lennon of the Beatles JoJo?

Here's the deal folks...It doesn't matter who the 2017 -20 President will be as we are going into a recession. That man/women will be up to their eyeballs in deep economic dodo.

Currently thousands of railroad locomotives are in dry dock. As you are aware RR fill capacity has been used for decades to determine our countries manufacturing strength. The Atlanta Fed announced last week that GDP growth was .01% for Q1 of this year. Last year when we had a harsh winter the GDP was .6%. According to Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey, we are starting to see a decline again. 63% in March to 62.9% in April. This is off from a high of 66% in 2007. We all could go on and on however we will be in a recession (If we aren't already) by the end of Q3. Perfect time for the November elections.

The new Trumpvilles/Clintonvilles will be showing up in Q1 of the new presidents term. And with all of the Feds silver bullets fired at the demon (QEing, Low interest rates, 26 week unemployment Ins., 49M Americans on food stamps, etc) and we having a $19.5T debt we are hosed. Even though Trump says he will sell our debt which will ease the overall debt number he needs to understand that governments do not work like companies. Companies can sell debt but countries can not as Puerto Rico is finding out. When countries file chapter 9, 11 or 13 their paper holders (China comes immediately to mind) come with army's and take things away. Gee what would China like to add to their territory? Japan? Taiwan, the Philippines, Alaska? 

To back up a bit because I know of what I write makes me look like a wingnut...Who ever becomes President they will be known as the Hoover of the new millennium. I feel sympathy for that man or women.

     


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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2016, 06:25:56 PM »
JohnyMac I hated the Beatles. No I miss spelled Lenin as in Marx and Lenin
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2016, 06:45:47 PM »
@JoJo

Which one? 
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Groucho, Chico, Harpo, Gummo, or Zeppo?   :trolling:
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Re: I am dumbstruck
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2016, 02:46:46 AM »
Yep.... Things are really messed up out there.

Gonna be an interesting few years I think.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2016, 07:01:26 AM »
You are a hoot JoJo  :thumbsUp:
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2016, 10:58:37 AM »
You are a hoot JoJo  :thumbsUp:
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JoJo wrote...JohnyMac I hated the Beatles. No I miss spelled Lenin as in Marx and Lenin

One of the great things about conservatives is that we can laugh at ourselves. I enjoy a good putdown even when I'm the one.
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