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General Category => News & Politics => Topic started by: Outonowhere on November 18, 2011, 09:30:31 AM

Title: HR 822
Post by: Outonowhere on November 18, 2011, 09:30:31 AM

Read it, act against it.  Looks like a "win" for gun rights but its Gov. saying we can have SOME of the 2A.


HR822 and Why I don't and you shouldn't support it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myKGFh4oCuk#ws)

H.R. 822 The Death Of Concealed Carry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSwfuLziJE#ws)

HR822 ...... Good or Bad? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4Bq_iM9EI#ws)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/hr-822-concealed-carry-bill_n_1097997.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/hr-822-concealed-carry-bill_n_1097997.html)

Title: Re: HR 822
Post by: JohnyMac on November 18, 2011, 10:26:46 AM

I can go either way on this bill.

1) I don't think the Federal Government has the right to make states do something. IF a
    companion bill in the Senate was passed and Barry signed it into law I would think their would
    be a court challenge put forth by CA., NJ, NY, IL, to name a few. If it won in the courts just
    think what future laws the US Congress could impose on the states.

2) I have a RI CCW and a PA CCW which means I am leagal in 35 or so states across the Union. Is
    it a pain when I go through a state that does not recognize my CCW- Yes. But again as I stated
    before, if you get caught CCing in a state that you are not legal to do so then you are not truly
    CCing.  ;)

    My contention is if you went through the back ground checks for your state it will have been
    determined that you are OK to CC. Not unlike taking a driving test in one state and being
    allowed to drive in all states of the Union.

Again this is a tough one for me to decide what side of the issue I am on. Reguardless a companion bill in the Senate will not pass and if it does Barry would never sign. 

Title: Re: HR 822
Post by: Outonowhere on November 18, 2011, 10:32:33 AM

Problem is, the Second Amendment does not put any restrictions on the ability for citizens to own or carry, nor does it allow states to prohibit such.  In fact the whole SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED part is pretty clear...

Title: Re: HR 822
Post by: JohnyMac on November 18, 2011, 10:35:52 AM

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OONW Wrote:Problem is, the Second Amendment does not put any restrictions on the ability for citizens to own or carry, nor does it allow states to prohibit such.  In fact the whole SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED part is pretty clear...

I hear ya' man. It's a shame that the US Constitution has been so bastardized over the past 220 years or so.

Title: Re: HR 822
Post by: Reaver on November 18, 2011, 10:47:43 AM

Quote from: JohnyMac on November 18, 2011, 10:35:52 AM

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OONW Wrote:Problem is, the Second Amendment does not put any restrictions on the ability for citizens to own or carry, nor does it allow states to prohibit such.  In fact the whole SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED part is pretty clear...

I hear ya' man. It's a shame that the US Constitution has been so bastardized over the past 220 years or so.

These two statements are my exact thoughts on the matter.