Bullet Strikes White House

[Skippy00004]

The Secret Service says a bullet struck a window at the White House and another hit the building's exterior -- discoveries that come four days after a shooting incident near the mansion while President Obama wasn't at home

http://youtu.be/mtD4eW1n018

Surprised this wasn't posted already.

[Veritas]

I read an article on this at Reuters today.

What struck me odd was that they are claiming:

1.  The shot was made from 700-800 yards.
2.  They said they found an AK-47 "assault rifle" that was probably the weapon used.

[APX808]

They arrested an Hispanic guy accused of shooting

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/16/justice/dc-white-house-bullet/index.html

[thatGuy]

A hispanic with an AK, 700 or 800yrds... yeah I will buy that.

[Reaver]

A hispanic with an AK, 700 or 800yrds... yeah I will buy that.

Thats what I said, and on the news they said

" We don't believe he's tied to any groups or affiliations "

 [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

[sledge]

I read an article on this at Reuters today.

What struck me odd was that they are claiming:

1.  The shot was made from 700-800 yards.
2.  They said they found an AK-47 "assault rifle" that was probably the weapon used.

Are the Lawmen on this case trying to tell us that they don't know better than that?  I don't believe they don't know better than that for a minute.  The shooter would have probably had to take aim at about an 11 o'clock point to make it reach that far.  I'm not absolutely sure it would travel that far even at that.

[Reaver]

Actually according to the US Army and a Captain/Major/FirstSegeants
CIB ( Combat Infantrymens Badge )

The 7.62x39 Caliber bullet has an effective range and can produce accurate fire out to 850 meters.

[sledge]

Actually according to the US Army and a Captain/Major/FirstSegeants
CIB ( Combat Infantrymens Badge )

The 7.62x39 Caliber bullet has an effective range and can produce accurate fire out to 850 meters.

Without a doubt!  LOL!  I just need to add another 3' to my barrel.

[Reaver]

Hey man, I'm just saying what my Captain told me.

[sledge]

Hey man, I'm just saying what my Captain told me.

That's a good soldier!  I thought one of the strengths of the U.S. military is that our guys have the ability to think for themselves.

I'd say the Captain's full of crap.  Of course thinking back, that's not the first time I've had that thought.   

[Reaver]

Of course we think for our selves.....
When leader ship is dead. To bad for the world he lived through the deployment. He's a cop in St. Pete so maybe that will change sometime. hahaahahh

Agh, shit... I'm a horrible person. I wish mountain where here to convince me that I'm not. 

[sledge]

Reaver, sometimes I wonder if you think before you say things.  You need to filter some of that stuff man.  I know you don't mean it.  It's all that damn rabbit's fault.  But try brother, try.

[Reaver]

No no no no no I'm not filtering that shit. Guys a piece of shit,

He condowned and tried to hied, the fact that his first Sergeant hit a female soldier  and cheated on his wife during the deployment.

It was only when he started to get pressure that he changed up his story to save his bars.

[Reaver]

wow, this spell check key doesn't help much does it?  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at 

Stop getting me excited sledge my spelling is horrible as is.

[JohnyMac]

From what I have read the perp who shot at the WH was part of the OWS (DC groupe) crowd. On Glenn Beck's program last evening he drew the corolation to the four Presidents who where assinated. Three of the four shooters had leftest leaning's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Of course Booth was an actor and a Confederate symphiser not a leftest. Well he was an actor

Some things to consider:
> It will probably be a disgruntled left leaning person to assinate (*) if in fact it happens
> The assassin will probably use an "assult type rifle" which will lead to a number of new gun laws
> The assassin will be a loner who will appear to work alone

Personnaly I pray that it doesn't happen. I pray that Barry is defeated legaly in the November 2012 Presidential election, by a socialy and fiscal conservative.

Last thought: How many national leaders (Not in power Presidents) were assinated by leftest leaning assassins? Robert Kennedy? Martin Luther King? OR attempted assinations? Gerald Ford? Theodore Roosevelt? Andrew Jackson?


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[Outonowhere]

Unless this guy was a total blithering idiot (and thats if the official story is true) he would have to know that shooting at the white house would do nothing more than get him arrested.  Nevertheless...

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=109&sid=2635318

White House shooting suspect charged with attempted assassination

Thursday - 11/17/2011, 2:47pm  ET
Oscar Ramiro Ortega (Courtesy of U.S. Park Police)
Ortega-Hernandez was arrested Wednesday at a hotel in Pennsylvania. (Courtesy of U.S. Park Police)

By JOE MANDAK
Associated Press

UPDATE: PITTSBURGH - An Idaho man charged with firing two shots at the White House last week has been charged with attempting to assassinate President Barack Obama or his staff.

Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, of Idaho Falls, Idaho, will be taken back from a federal court in Pittsburgh to face the charges in Washington, D.C.

Ortega will remain in federal custody at least until a magistrate in Washington can determine if he should remain jailed until his trial on the charge, which carries up to life in prison.

The 21-year-old Ortega said only, "Yes, ma'am" when he was asked if he understood that he would be going back to Washington to face the charges.

(Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)

PREVIOUS - An Idaho man charged with firing two shots at the White House last week was making his first court appearance before a federal magistrate in Pittsburgh on Thursday, one day after he was arrested at a western Pennsylvania hotel.

Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez sat quietly as the hearing began, his hands free but his feet shackled.

At the initial appearance, the 21-year-old Ortega will be told of the charge against him and a magistrate judge will ensure he has an attorney. The federal public defender's office in Pittsburgh has confirmed it was representing Ortega at this stage, but it wasn't clear who will assist him going forward.

Authorities said a man clad in black who was obsessed with President Barack Obama pulled his car within view of the White House on Friday night and fired shots from an assault rifle, cracking a window of the first family's living quarters while the president was away.

The White House declined to comment on the unfolding events.

Authorities are investigating the man's mental health and say there are indications he believed attacking the White House was part of a personal mission from God, according to a law enforcement official who spoke with The Associated Press. There are also indications the man had become obsessed with Obama and the White House, according to two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Shots were fired at the building Friday night. Agents discovered Tuesday that one of the two bullets hit the exterior and a second cracked a window on the second floor residential level, just behind the rounded portico visible from the south side of the White House.

That bullet was stopped by protective ballistic glass. The window that was hit is in front of the Yellow Oval Room, which is in the middle of the family's living quarters.

Obama and his wife Michelle were on a trip to California and Hawaii at the time of the shooting. The president has since traveled on to Australia and Indonesia on a nine-day Asia-Pacific tour. The Obamas were in California without daughters Malia and Sasha, but the White House had no immediate comment on the shooting or who may have been home at the time.

Investigators believe Ortega fired the rifle from his vehicle Friday, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation. Gunshots were reported that night on Constitution Avenue about 9:30 p.m. Soon after, U.S. Park Police found an abandoned vehicle, the assault rifle inside it, near a bridge leading out of the nation's capital to Virginia. The car led investigators to Ortega, and they obtained a warrant for his arrest Sunday, officials said.

This is not the first time the White House has come under attack.

In the last 40 years, the landmark has faced threats ranging from a stolen helicopter that landed on the grounds in 1974 to a man who wielded a sawed-off shotgun on a sidewalk outside in 1984. In 1994 alone, there were five threats including a plane crash on the lawn and a suspected drive-by shooting. Another man fired at least 29 rounds from a semiautomatic weapon, with 11 striking the White House.

Dan Bongino is a former Secret Service agent who served on the presidential details for Obama and President George W. Bush. He said Friday's shooting would likely mean tighter security and coordination.

"They do an exhaustive review of their security procedures every time something like this happens," he said. "Nothing ever works perfectly. They will undress this completely and then they will find out when they rebuild the incident exactly what they could have done better."

Bongino, who recently left the Secret Service to run for U.S. Senate in Maryland, said it was doubtful that a gunman could strike a target such as the White House from a moving car at the distance investigators suspect he shot. It would require "an incredible amount of training to pull that off," he said, suggesting it was more likely Ortega stopped his car to fire.