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Title: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Well-Prepared Witch on July 28, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Anyone following the news about the Ebola outbreak?  Pretty scary.  They're doing what they can to lock it down, but the scope of this one seems to be expanding pretty quickly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/28/this-is-the-worst-ebola-outbreak-in-history-heres-why-you-should-be-worried/?tid=sm_fb (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/28/this-is-the-worst-ebola-outbreak-in-history-heres-why-you-should-be-worried/?tid=sm_fb)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: brat on July 28, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
Been following it a week or so. People were exposed and departed prior to them realizing they even had a problem I suspect.  I'm afraid they don't have the resources to effectively contain. It's in four countries already that they know of. The last guy, some official type, got sick on a plane, figures. They claim to have located all passengers, but that's the media talking. A second American over there has come down with it.

It's been talked about on APN for a while and other places. A lot of  :tinfoil: theories being bantered about.
 

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/ (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/)

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-spreads-to-fourth-country/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-spreads-to-fourth-country/)

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-outbreak-kills-senior-doctore-liberia-official-article-1.1881734 (http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-outbreak-kills-senior-doctore-liberia-official-article-1.1881734)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: thedigininja on July 28, 2014, 05:26:32 PM
I was keeping tabs on this story for the first few weeks but got a bit sidetracked. Add to it the confirmed death in CHINA (how quickly do you think a disease could spread there? ) from the bubonic plague and those random vials of smallpox found in the U.S. (they're contained but how many others are out there waiting to be found? and by who?)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on July 28, 2014, 07:45:37 PM
The short Vice documentary shows the mindset of the Liberians concerning Ebola:

Monkey Meat and the Ebola Outbreak in Liberia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasTcDsDfMg#ws)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on July 28, 2014, 09:12:09 PM
Been following it a week or so.

Side note here but are you the Brat running for Congress in Virginia, 7th District?

Nemo

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on July 28, 2014, 09:54:23 PM
Do you folks remember the post I made in the  :tinfoil: section about the Army being issued new Biofilters for their gas masks and told to have with them 24/7? Maybe it wasn't so  :tinfoil:.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Well-Prepared Witch on July 28, 2014, 10:14:58 PM
Interesting point JM!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Burt Gummer on July 28, 2014, 10:21:10 PM
Do you folks remember the post I made in the  :tinfoil: section about the Army being issued new Biofilters for their gas masks and told to have with them 24/7? Maybe it wasn't so  :tinfoil:.
Do you think you could figure out the type or nsn of this filter jmac?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: brat on July 29, 2014, 06:32:02 AM
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Side note here but are you the Brat running for Congress in Virginia, 7th District?

Not me Nemo. Given my overall disdain for politicians, I would never try to be one. I'm your neighbor to the north, TN.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on July 29, 2014, 09:20:41 AM
I will see what I can find out Burt  ;)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: brat on July 31, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
It's coming to America..... now we'll see if they contain it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/us-health-ebola-emory-idUSKBN0G02O220140731 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/us-health-ebola-emory-idUSKBN0G02O220140731)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Burt Gummer on August 01, 2014, 12:24:39 PM
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city (http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city)

Keep in mind....

A lot of the major news channels are now picking up on this story and are promoting the:

"You should be worried."

Usually that follows with the:

"Something should be done."

From which you tend to loose some type of "privilege".
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on August 01, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
Executive Order 13295: Revised List Of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases


Subsection (b) used to read:  http://www.cdc.gov/sars/quarantine/exec-2004-04-03.html (http://www.cdc.gov/sars/quarantine/exec-2004-04-03.html)
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(b) Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which is a disease associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, is transmitted from person to person predominantly by the aerosolized or droplet route, and, if spread in the population, would have severe public health consequences.



As of yesterday, subsection (b) has been amended to read:  http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/31/executive-order-revised-list-quarantinable-communicable-diseases (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/31/executive-order-revised-list-quarantinable-communicable-diseases)
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(b)  Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.  This subsection does not apply to influenza."
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: rah45 on August 01, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
Yep. Sly.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2014, 10:39:15 AM
Is it really a virus or something else?  Anyone see any validity in this?   :tinfoil:  I do not dismiss it outright.  Or is it smoke from the govt conspiracy to shoot down the idea before it goes anywhere.  :hiding:  Like current dems talking about impeaching nobama.  :deadHorse:

Nemo




    http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/ebola-covert-op-in-a-hypnotized-world/ (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/ebola-covert-op-in-a-hypnotized-world/)

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Ebola: covert op in a hypnotized world
    by Jon Rappoport, August 2, 2014

    [url=http://www.nomorefakenews.com]www.nomorefakenews.com[/url] ([url]http://www.nomorefakenews.com[/url])

    You show people a germ and you tell them what it is and what it does, and people salute. They give in. They believe. They actually know nothing. But they believe.

    The massive campaign to make people believe the Ebola virus can attack at any moment, after the slightest contact, is quite a success.

    People are falling all over themselves to raise the level of hysteria.

    This is what is preventing a hard look at Liberia, Sierra Leone, and the Republic Guinea, three African nations where poverty and illness are staples of everyday life for the overwhelming number of people.

    The command structure in those areas has a single dictum: don’t solve the human problem.

    Don’t clean up the contaminated water supplies, don’t return stolen land to the people so they can grow food and finally achieve nutritional health, don’t solve overcrowding, don’t install basic sanitation, don’t strengthen their immune systems so they can ward off germs, don’t let the people have power—because then they would throw off the local and global corporate juggernauts that are sucking the land of all its resources.

    In order not to solve the problems of the people, a cover story is necessary. A cover story that exonerates the power structure.

    A cover story like a germ.

    It’s all about the germ. The demon. The strange attacker. (See, for example, this March 27th, Reuter’s article entitled “Beware of bats: Guinea issues bushmeat warning after Ebola outbreak”.)

    Forget everything else. The germ is the single enemy.

    Forget the fact, for example, that a recent study of 15 pharmacies and 5 hospital drug dispensaries in Sierra Leone discovered the widespread and unconscionable use of beta-lactam antibiotics.

    These drugs are highly toxic. One of their effects? Excessive bleeding.

    Which just happens to be the scary “Ebola effect” that’s being trumpeted in the world press.

    (J Clin Microbiol, July 2013, 51(7), 2435-2438), and Annals of Internal Medicine Dec. 1986, “Potential for bleeding with the new beta-lactam antibiotics”)

    Forget the fact that pesticide companies are notorious for shipping banned toxic pesticides to Africa. One effect of the chemicals? Bleeding.

    Forget that. It’s all about the germ and nothing but the germ.

    Forget the fact that, for decades, one of the leading causes of death in the Third World has been uncontrolled diarrhea. Electrolytes are drained from the body, and the adult or the baby dies.

    Any sane doctor would make it his first order of business to replace electrolytes with simple supplementation—but no, the standard medical line goes this way:

    The diarrhea is caused by germs in the intestinal tract, so we must pile on massive amounts of antibiotics to kill the germs.

    The drugs kill off all bacteria in the gut, including the necessary and beneficial ones, and the patient can’t absorb what little food he has access to, and he dies.

    Along the way, he can also bleed.

    But no, all the bleeding comes from Ebola. It’s the germ. Don’t think about anything else.

    Forget the fact that adenovirus vaccines, which have been used in Liberia, Guinea, and Liberia (the epicenter of Ebola), have, according to vaccines.gov, the following adverse effects: blood in the urine or stool, and diarrhea.

    No, all the bleeding comes from the Ebola germ. Of course. Don’t think about anything else.

    power outside the matrix

    Reporter Charles Yates uncovered a scandal in Liberia centering around the Firestone Rubber Plantation—chemical dumping, poisoned water.

    And skin disease.

    “Rash” is listed as one of the Ebola symptoms.

    So is diarrhea.

    Liberia Coca Cola bottling plant: foul black liquid seeping into the environment—animals dying.

    Chronic malnutrition and starvation—conditions that are endemic in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea—are the number-one cause of T-cells depletion in the world.

    T-cells are a vital component of the immune system. When that system is compromised, any germ coming down the pipeline will cause epidemics and death.

    Getting the picture?

    Blame it all on the germ.

    Allow the corporate-government domination to continue.

    Jon Rappoport

    The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at [url=http://www.nomorefakenews.com]www.nomorefakenews.com[/url] ([url]http://www.nomorefakenews.com[/url])
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
And some detailed and seems well supported info here.    Or just more  :tinfoil: lunacy?

Click below.  I have reached my copyright non-violation for educational purposes limit for today.

Nemo

http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/2014/08/the-ebola-outbreak-pandemic-that-isnt.html (http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/2014/08/the-ebola-outbreak-pandemic-that-isnt.html)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Well-Prepared Witch on August 03, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
This is totally :tinfoil:.

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The massive campaign to make people believe the Ebola virus can attack at any moment, after the slightest contact, is quite a success.

I don't know what "campaign" to which this person is referring, but everything I've read in the mainstream has stressed that you have to have close personal contact with someone infected.  ABC, CBS, NPR, etc. are all saying that there's a very slight risk to us here.

As to it being a corporate conspiracy, while I know for a fact a lot of these corporations move production to places like China and other Asian countries, African countries, etc. because they're allowed to poison and pollute the land and people, that explanation doesn't hold water for this outbreak.  Poisons are typically location-centered.  They don't hop countries like this outbreak.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on August 03, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Wellie you are 100% correct!

As Erick wrote. (http://unchainedpreppers.com/forum/physical-fitness-challange/ebola-discussion/)..
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on August 03, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
I've read in the mainstream has stressed that you have to have close personal contact with someone infected.  ABC, CBS, NPR, etc. are all saying that there's a very slight risk to us here.


It appears that airborne spread is possible.  There is way way too little known about this.  I am becoming more concerned each day.  Maybe I should put on a second layer of tinfoil.

Nemo

http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112 (http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112)
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From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne
Nov 21, 2012 | Jane Huston | Research & Policy

When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.

The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.

Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.

Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.

While the study provided evidence that transmission of Ebola between species is possible, researchers still cannot say for certain how that transmission actually occurred. There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.

Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long. Fomites are inanimate objects that can transmit disease if they are contaminated with infectious agents. In this study, a monkey’s cage could have been contaminated when workers were cleaning a nearby pig cage. If the monkey touched the contaminated cage surface and then its mouth or eyes, it could have been infected.

Author Dr. Gary Kobinger suspects that the virus is transmitted through droplets, not fomites, because evidence of infection in the lungs of the monkeys indicated that the virus was inhaled.

What do these findings mean? First and foremost, Ebola is not suddenly an airborne disease. As expert commentators at ProMED stated, the experiments “demonstrate the susceptibility of pigs to Zaire Ebolavirus and that the virus from infected pigs can be transmitted to macaques under experimental conditions… they fall short of establishing that this is a normal route of transmission in the natural environment.” Furthermore, because human Ebola outbreaks have historically been locally contained, it is unlikely that Ebola can spread between humans via airborne transmission.

However, the study does raise the possibility that pigs are a host for Ebola. If this proves to be true in the wild, there are direct ramifications for prevention and control measures. It is still unclear what role pigs play in the chain of transmission. To continue work on answering this question, the team plans to take samples from pigs in areas known to have recently experienced Ebola outbreaks.

The Disease Daily has previously reported on Dr. Kobinger’s work on the Ebola vaccine.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: DMCakhunter on August 05, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
So what is it about ebola that scares so many people, considering that the annual flu kills far more people each year than ebola ever will?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: rah45 on August 05, 2014, 08:44:45 AM
Ebola ' s death rate is much higher. The fear is that there is a recent mutation of the disease that is much more communicable, and that it will spread outside of Africa.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: brat on August 05, 2014, 04:05:39 PM
Guess we'll know after the African Summit is over at the white house. Say........... never mind.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: thatGuy on August 17, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
http://krqe.com/2014/08/17/unm-patient-being-tested-for-ebola-like-symptoms/ (http://krqe.com/2014/08/17/unm-patient-being-tested-for-ebola-like-symptoms/)

just gonna leave that right there...
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on August 18, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
 :coffeeNews: Lets stay tuned to see...

PS: What happened to your Avatar Mr. TG?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on September 14, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
U.S. government to buy 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits to prepare for full-blown global pandemic... (http://www.naturalnews.com/046869_Ebola_pandemic_government_preparedness_hazmat_suits.html)

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(NaturalNews) The U.S. State Department has just put out a bid for 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits, announced a U.S. manufacturer called "Lakeland Industries." The company's press release, published at Yahoo Finance ([url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lakeland-industries-announces-global-availability-142200024.html[/url]), reads:

"With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health."
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Kbop on September 14, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
U.S. government to buy 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits to prepare for full-blown global pandemic... ([url]http://www.naturalnews.com/046869_Ebola_pandemic_government_preparedness_hazmat_suits.html[/url])


Man I wish I owned stock in Dupont - especially since I cant trust gold and silver any more   :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Erick on September 17, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Ill gladly field specific questions if anyone has them :
http://unchainedpreppers.com/forum/physical-fitness-challange/ebola-discussion/ (http://unchainedpreppers.com/forum/physical-fitness-challange/ebola-discussion/)

:)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Chasle on September 17, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
Over 2000 dead from ebola but the cdc came out about a month ago sayine what ever themedia says its about 5-10x more than that. Not to mention it incubates in the carrier for 1-30 day before syptoms occur, ive heard that there will be more than 100,000 dead by dec, I think its so stupid for our gov. To be bringing the infected in to the country for treatment, it would be better if they were putting them in a high level bio cantained facility instead of a regular hospital, seems like they want it to spread.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on September 17, 2014, 09:03:18 PM
http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/new-orleans/health-officials-waiting-for-ship-to-dock-in-new-orleans-crew-showing-symptoms-of-malaria/28110618 (http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/new-orleans/health-officials-waiting-for-ship-to-dock-in-new-orleans-crew-showing-symptoms-of-malaria/28110618)


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NEW ORLEANS —The West Jefferson Medical Center said one crew member who was ill on a ship from Africa was at the hospital. At least three more crew members, plus the river pilot who boarded the ship, are expected to arrive at the hospital Wednesday night. The first crew member from the ship was listed in critical condition, according to Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser.

"Our doctors and staff are ready and we have instituted full safety precautions in the unlikely event that this turns out to be something of concern," said WJMC spokeswoman Taslin Alfonzo. "Everyone is using an abundance of caution until the patients can actually be assessed and appropriately diagnosed."

Embedded in the hospital's emergency room is the Region 1 disaster coordinator from the state, Alfonzo said.

Officials in New Orleans confirmed that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Coast Guard and various government epidemiologists were at the scene in Belle Chasse, where the vessel, identified as the Marine Phoenix, docked at the Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base.

The Marine Phoenix is a refrigerated cargo vessel flagged out of the African nation of Liberia. The 20-year-old ship weighs more than 7,000 tons and has more than 400 cubic feet of space.

According to a release from the CDC, the ship was reported to have traveled to a port in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and others in Africa.


"There is no evidence to suggest that the crew members traveled to, or had any contact with anyone from the remote island region of DRC where Ebola cases are occurring. Given this, the chance that the crew member could have Ebola is thought to be exceedingly low," the CDC stated.

Initial details state that the ship alerted Louisiana and U.S. health officials that the individuals on board were sick.

Officials with the CDC said a staff member had already been in New Orleans to train partners. He joined the Coast Guard and the Louisiana Department of Health when it docks Wednesday evening.

"Even if a person on the ship was exposed to Ebola, once they are screened by medical personnel in New Orleans, they would not be able to go anywhere," said WDSU Medical Editor Dr. Corey Hebert. "Even if they did get out, it has to be spread by direct bodily fluids."

New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu's Office issued the following statement following the developments.

"The City of New Orleans is in close contact with officials at the Center for Disease Control, the Coast Guard, the Louisiana Department of Health & Hospitals, and the Port of New Orleans. To protect the health and safety of our residents, the City has requested that all state and federal agencies take every precaution as though this is the worst-case scenario. We will continue to closely monitor the situation."
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on October 12, 2014, 09:19:23 AM
Second confirmed Ebola case in U.S. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEzgoTJMic#ws)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: DMCakhunter on October 12, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
 I watched the press briefing this morning and it was very obvious that all of these people, mayor, judge, and medical chief are in shock and haven't a clue about what to do.
That doctor that roamed airports in a tyvek suit is right. The CDC has not been telling the truth and their recommendations and procedures are not enough.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on October 12, 2014, 09:11:35 PM
Go to the 50 second point in that video.  Stop it and look at the rig in the parking space to the left.  The one I see says ATF. Why is that at that hospital.  That being in the area, whether involved or not concerns me.

Nemo

edit-- Just look at the end frame on the video above.  I see the ATF truck there.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on October 13, 2014, 07:27:20 AM
Good catch Nemo!  :thumbsUp: I completely missed it.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: gadget99 on October 13, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
Go to the 50 second point in that video.  Stop it and look at the rig in the parking space to the left.  The one I see says ATF. Why is that at that hospital.  That being in the area, whether involved or not concerns me.

Nemo

edit-- Just look at the end frame on the video above.  I see the ATF truck there.

Yeah I was wondering that myself.......
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: KillJoy on October 13, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
They are searching for full-auto diarrhea rifles with high capacity ebola clips.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on October 13, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
So they are part of the govt conspiracy to hide the facts from the American public and just spread chit information around about the pandemic?  Those rifles should work for another month or 3.  But not much past that.

I wrote that as a joke.  But after reading it upon completion (primarily for typo checks) I find it alot more plausible than a good bit of info the govt has already put out.

Nemo   :hiding:  :tinfoil:

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on October 14, 2014, 10:41:02 PM
FOX NEWS TAKES SHIT-SPEWING CDC DIRECTOR TO TASK

WATCH: Megyn Kelly Goes Head to Head with CDC Director over Ebola in America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am0uqvvjgxw#ws)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on October 15, 2014, 08:13:22 AM
Yeah I saw it last night SK.

OK, I am not the sharpest blade in the knife drawer. With that said, I do not like being talked down to.

Wasn't Dr. Frieden the Dr. behind NannyBloomburg's 32oz soft drink ban?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Nemo on October 15, 2014, 10:31:57 AM
Number 2 is here.  Better check Your boxes along with the stuff under the bed and make sure the fan it working.  It might get hit by stuff no one wants flying.  Airborne???   underline added by me

Nemo


http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/15/texas-health-officials-say-second-healthcare-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests/ (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/15/texas-health-officials-say-second-healthcare-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests/)

 
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Texas health officials say second healthcare worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola
    Published October 15, 2014, FoxNews.com

    A second healthcare worker at the Dallas hospital where Ebola patient Thomas Duncan was treated has tested positive for the virus, Texas health officials say.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services confirmed that the worker had tested positive in a statement early Wednesday. It did not specify what position the worker held at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, though officials did say that the person was among those who provided care for Duncan, who died from the virus Oct. 8.

    The statement said that the worker had reported a fever Tuesday and had been placed in isolation. Preliminary tests were run at the state public health lab in Austin and results came back at approximately midnight Wednesday. A separate test will be done at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

    The statement also said the health care worker, who wasn't identified, was interviewed to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures and that others will be monitored.  It added that the type of monitoring will depend on the nature of their interactions with the health care worker and the potential of exposure to the virus.

    On Sunday, officials confirmed that 26-year-old nurse Nina Pham had tested positive for the virus. More than 70 people who may have had contact with Duncan at the hospital were being monitored. Officials have said they don't know how Pham became infected. But the second case pointed to lapses beyond how one individual may have donned and removed personal protective garb.

    News of the latest positive test comes one day after the largest U.S. nurses' union charged that Duncan' caregivers worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols.

    A statement from National Nurses United also says Thomas Eric Duncan was left in an open area of an emergency room for hours.

    A spokesman for the group says nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments. It's said that the patient had explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

    In a conference call with reporters executive director RoseAnn DeMoro says the allegations are based on revelations from "a few" nurses and that the claims were vetted.

    The nurses also said that Duncan's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.

    A hospital spokesman for told the Associated Press that the facility had not received similar complaints.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: JohnyMac on October 15, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
Bad news for the Dallas Health worker - Good news that it is very centralized.

We should start a pool as to how many not centralized people catch Captain Tipps till we restrict people coming in from westerm African Countries.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on October 15, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
http://www.naturalnews.com/047267_Ebola_outbreak_incubation_period_viral_transmission.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/047267_Ebola_outbreak_incubation_period_viral_transmission.html)

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(NaturalNews) A jaw-dropping report released by the World Health Organization on October 14, 2014 reveals that 1 in 20 Ebola infections has an incubation period longer than the 21 days which has been repeatedly claimed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

This may be the single most important -- and blatantly honest -- research report released by any official body since the beginning of the Ebola outbreak. The WHO's "Ebola situation assessment" report, found here ([url]http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/[/url]), explains that only 95% of Ebola infections experience incubation within the widely-reported 21-day period. Here's the actual language from the report:

95% of confirmed cases have an incubation period in the range of 1 to 21 days; 98% have an incubation period that falls within the 1 to 42 day interval.

Unless the sentence structure is somehow misleading, this passage appears to indicate the following:

• 95% of Ebola incubations occur from 1 - 21 days
• 3% of Ebola incubations occur from 21 - 42 days
• 2% of Ebola incubations are not explained (why?)

If this interpretation of the WHO's statistics are correct, it would mean that:

• 1 in 20 Ebola infections may result in incubations lasting significantly longer than 21 days

• The 21-day quarantine currently being enforced by the CDC is entirely insufficient to halt an outbreak

• People who are released from observation or self-quarantine after 21 days may still become full-blown Ebola patients in the subsequent three weeks, even if they have shown no symptoms of infection during the first 21 days. (Yes, read that again...)

Any declaration that an outbreak is over requires 42 days with no new infections
Underscoring the importance of the 42-day rule, the WHO document openly states that a 42-day observation period with no new outbreaks is required before declaring the outbreak is under control. In the WHO's own words:

WHO is therefore confident that detection of no new cases, with active surveillance in place, throughout this 42-day period means that an Ebola outbreak is indeed over.

W.H.O. "alarmed" over false pronouncements of negative Ebola tests
Just as disturbing is the WHO's open warning that government health officials who are announcing negative Ebola findings in patients mere hours after them being tested are grossly misleading the public and essentially practicing quack medicine.

As explained by the WHO:

WHO is alarmed by media reports of suspected Ebola cases imported into new countries that are said, by government officials or ministries of health, to be discarded as "negative" within hours after the suspected case enters the country. Such rapid determination of infection status is impossible, casting grave doubts on some of the official information that is being communicated to the public and the media.

In other words, WHO is telling us that all those public pronouncements by government health authorities are meaningless. An Ebola infection determination cannot be made in mere hours, it turns out. In fact, as WHO explains, a suspected case of Ebola must be observed and tested for 48 hours before any degree of certainty can be reached about the Ebola infection status:

Two negative RT-PCR test results, at least 48 hours apart, are required for a clinically asymptomatic patient to be discharged from hospital, or for a suspected Ebola case to be discarded as testing negative for the virus.

"No signs" that outbreaks are under control
Finally, this WHO report goes on to conclude that the Ebola outbreaks of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone are multiplying out of control. The report even cites the curious phenomenon of unexpected outbreak surges taking place in areas once thought to be eradicated:

In Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone, new cases continue to explode in areas that looked like they were coming under control. An unusual characteristic of this epidemic is a persistent cyclical pattern of gradual dips in the number of new cases, followed by sudden flare-ups. WHO epidemiologists see no signs that the outbreaks in any of these 3 countries are coming under control.

Is it possible that these resurging outbreaks are being caused by governments failing to monitor potentially infected Ebola victims for a full 42 days? If they only observe them for 21 days, then 1 out of 20 infected victims may be cleared as "clean" and allowed back into the population where they soon become symptomatic and spread the disease even further.

U.S. doctors and health officials have been taught the wrong number: 21 days is only HALF the duration
It is extremely disturbing to realize that, to our best knowledge, every single person in the United States who has been suspected of harboring Ebola has been instructed to monitor symptoms for only 21 days, not the necessary 42 days.

This means that Ebola-infected U.S. citizens who are "cleared" of Ebola may still erupt with the deadly virus for a period of three more weeks.

Why hasn't anyone reported this until now? How is this not one of the single most important pieces of information in the world at this moment when all human life on our planet is now legitimately threatened by an uncontrolled viral outbreak with a 70 percent fatality rate and no recognized treatments or cures?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: special-k on October 15, 2014, 08:18:01 PM
Check out this happy horse shit:

Shep Smith's rejoinder to "irresponsible" Ebola coverage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KBfynW09I#ws)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Burt Gummer on October 16, 2014, 01:23:45 AM
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If you show no symptoms you are not contagious.

fuck you shep, talk about irresponsible.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: brat on October 16, 2014, 07:38:39 AM
Airborne research claim ......

http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Burt Gummer on October 16, 2014, 12:32:53 PM
aw well sheeeeeet.... :hiding: