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Ebola Outbreak
« on: July 28, 2014, 03:32:43 PM »
Anyone following the news about the Ebola outbreak?  Pretty scary.  They're doing what they can to lock it down, but the scope of this one seems to be expanding pretty quickly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/28/this-is-the-worst-ebola-outbreak-in-history-heres-why-you-should-be-worried/?tid=sm_fb
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 04:03:31 PM »
Been following it a week or so. People were exposed and departed prior to them realizing they even had a problem I suspect.  I'm afraid they don't have the resources to effectively contain. It's in four countries already that they know of. The last guy, some official type, got sick on a plane, figures. They claim to have located all passengers, but that's the media talking. A second American over there has come down with it.

It's been talked about on APN for a while and other places. A lot of  :tinfoil: theories being bantered about.
 

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-spreads-to-fourth-country/

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-outbreak-kills-senior-doctore-liberia-official-article-1.1881734

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 05:26:32 PM »
I was keeping tabs on this story for the first few weeks but got a bit sidetracked. Add to it the confirmed death in CHINA (how quickly do you think a disease could spread there? ) from the bubonic plague and those random vials of smallpox found in the U.S. (they're contained but how many others are out there waiting to be found? and by who?)
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 07:45:37 PM »
The short Vice documentary shows the mindset of the Liberians concerning Ebola:

Monkey Meat and the Ebola Outbreak in Liberia
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 09:12:09 PM »
Been following it a week or so.

Side note here but are you the Brat running for Congress in Virginia, 7th District?

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 09:54:23 PM »
Do you folks remember the post I made in the  :tinfoil: section about the Army being issued new Biofilters for their gas masks and told to have with them 24/7? Maybe it wasn't so  :tinfoil:.
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 10:14:58 PM »
Interesting point JM!
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 10:21:10 PM »
Do you folks remember the post I made in the  :tinfoil: section about the Army being issued new Biofilters for their gas masks and told to have with them 24/7? Maybe it wasn't so  :tinfoil:.
Do you think you could figure out the type or nsn of this filter jmac?

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 06:32:02 AM »
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Side note here but are you the Brat running for Congress in Virginia, 7th District?

Not me Nemo. Given my overall disdain for politicians, I would never try to be one. I'm your neighbor to the north, TN.

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 09:20:41 AM »
I will see what I can find out Burt  ;)
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 08:12:12 PM »
It's coming to America..... now we'll see if they contain it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/us-health-ebola-emory-idUSKBN0G02O220140731

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2014, 12:24:39 PM »
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city

Keep in mind....

A lot of the major news channels are now picking up on this story and are promoting the:

"You should be worried."

Usually that follows with the:

"Something should be done."

From which you tend to loose some type of "privilege".

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2014, 04:55:46 PM »
Executive Order 13295: Revised List Of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases


Subsection (b) used to read:  http://www.cdc.gov/sars/quarantine/exec-2004-04-03.html
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(b) Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which is a disease associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, is transmitted from person to person predominantly by the aerosolized or droplet route, and, if spread in the population, would have severe public health consequences.



As of yesterday, subsection (b) has been amended to read:  http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/31/executive-order-revised-list-quarantinable-communicable-diseases
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(b)  Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.  This subsection does not apply to influenza."
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2014, 08:53:38 PM »
Yep. Sly.

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2014, 10:39:15 AM »
Is it really a virus or something else?  Anyone see any validity in this?   :tinfoil:  I do not dismiss it outright.  Or is it smoke from the govt conspiracy to shoot down the idea before it goes anywhere.  :hiding:  Like current dems talking about impeaching nobama.  :deadHorse:

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    http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/ebola-covert-op-in-a-hypnotized-world/

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Ebola: covert op in a hypnotized world
    by Jon Rappoport, August 2, 2014

    www.nomorefakenews.com

    You show people a germ and you tell them what it is and what it does, and people salute. They give in. They believe. They actually know nothing. But they believe.

    The massive campaign to make people believe the Ebola virus can attack at any moment, after the slightest contact, is quite a success.

    People are falling all over themselves to raise the level of hysteria.

    This is what is preventing a hard look at Liberia, Sierra Leone, and the Republic Guinea, three African nations where poverty and illness are staples of everyday life for the overwhelming number of people.

    The command structure in those areas has a single dictum: don’t solve the human problem.

    Don’t clean up the contaminated water supplies, don’t return stolen land to the people so they can grow food and finally achieve nutritional health, don’t solve overcrowding, don’t install basic sanitation, don’t strengthen their immune systems so they can ward off germs, don’t let the people have power—because then they would throw off the local and global corporate juggernauts that are sucking the land of all its resources.

    In order not to solve the problems of the people, a cover story is necessary. A cover story that exonerates the power structure.

    A cover story like a germ.

    It’s all about the germ. The demon. The strange attacker. (See, for example, this March 27th, Reuter’s article entitled “Beware of bats: Guinea issues bushmeat warning after Ebola outbreak”.)

    Forget everything else. The germ is the single enemy.

    Forget the fact, for example, that a recent study of 15 pharmacies and 5 hospital drug dispensaries in Sierra Leone discovered the widespread and unconscionable use of beta-lactam antibiotics.

    These drugs are highly toxic. One of their effects? Excessive bleeding.

    Which just happens to be the scary “Ebola effect” that’s being trumpeted in the world press.

    (J Clin Microbiol, July 2013, 51(7), 2435-2438), and Annals of Internal Medicine Dec. 1986, “Potential for bleeding with the new beta-lactam antibiotics”)

    Forget the fact that pesticide companies are notorious for shipping banned toxic pesticides to Africa. One effect of the chemicals? Bleeding.

    Forget that. It’s all about the germ and nothing but the germ.

    Forget the fact that, for decades, one of the leading causes of death in the Third World has been uncontrolled diarrhea. Electrolytes are drained from the body, and the adult or the baby dies.

    Any sane doctor would make it his first order of business to replace electrolytes with simple supplementation—but no, the standard medical line goes this way:

    The diarrhea is caused by germs in the intestinal tract, so we must pile on massive amounts of antibiotics to kill the germs.

    The drugs kill off all bacteria in the gut, including the necessary and beneficial ones, and the patient can’t absorb what little food he has access to, and he dies.

    Along the way, he can also bleed.

    But no, all the bleeding comes from Ebola. It’s the germ. Don’t think about anything else.

    Forget the fact that adenovirus vaccines, which have been used in Liberia, Guinea, and Liberia (the epicenter of Ebola), have, according to vaccines.gov, the following adverse effects: blood in the urine or stool, and diarrhea.

    No, all the bleeding comes from the Ebola germ. Of course. Don’t think about anything else.

    power outside the matrix

    Reporter Charles Yates uncovered a scandal in Liberia centering around the Firestone Rubber Plantation—chemical dumping, poisoned water.

    And skin disease.

    “Rash” is listed as one of the Ebola symptoms.

    So is diarrhea.

    Liberia Coca Cola bottling plant: foul black liquid seeping into the environment—animals dying.

    Chronic malnutrition and starvation—conditions that are endemic in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea—are the number-one cause of T-cells depletion in the world.

    T-cells are a vital component of the immune system. When that system is compromised, any germ coming down the pipeline will cause epidemics and death.

    Getting the picture?

    Blame it all on the germ.

    Allow the corporate-government domination to continue.

    Jon Rappoport

    The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2014, 10:50:28 AM »
And some detailed and seems well supported info here.    Or just more  :tinfoil: lunacy?

Click below.  I have reached my copyright non-violation for educational purposes limit for today.

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2014, 12:48:36 PM »
This is totally :tinfoil:.

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The massive campaign to make people believe the Ebola virus can attack at any moment, after the slightest contact, is quite a success.

I don't know what "campaign" to which this person is referring, but everything I've read in the mainstream has stressed that you have to have close personal contact with someone infected.  ABC, CBS, NPR, etc. are all saying that there's a very slight risk to us here.

As to it being a corporate conspiracy, while I know for a fact a lot of these corporations move production to places like China and other Asian countries, African countries, etc. because they're allowed to poison and pollute the land and people, that explanation doesn't hold water for this outbreak.  Poisons are typically location-centered.  They don't hop countries like this outbreak.
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2014, 09:45:39 PM »
Wellie you are 100% correct!

As Erick wrote...
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2014, 10:16:54 PM »
I've read in the mainstream has stressed that you have to have close personal contact with someone infected.  ABC, CBS, NPR, etc. are all saying that there's a very slight risk to us here.


It appears that airborne spread is possible.  There is way way too little known about this.  I am becoming more concerned each day.  Maybe I should put on a second layer of tinfoil.

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http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112
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From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne
Nov 21, 2012 | Jane Huston | Research & Policy

When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.

The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.

Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.

Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.

While the study provided evidence that transmission of Ebola between species is possible, researchers still cannot say for certain how that transmission actually occurred. There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.

Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long. Fomites are inanimate objects that can transmit disease if they are contaminated with infectious agents. In this study, a monkey’s cage could have been contaminated when workers were cleaning a nearby pig cage. If the monkey touched the contaminated cage surface and then its mouth or eyes, it could have been infected.

Author Dr. Gary Kobinger suspects that the virus is transmitted through droplets, not fomites, because evidence of infection in the lungs of the monkeys indicated that the virus was inhaled.

What do these findings mean? First and foremost, Ebola is not suddenly an airborne disease. As expert commentators at ProMED stated, the experiments “demonstrate the susceptibility of pigs to Zaire Ebolavirus and that the virus from infected pigs can be transmitted to macaques under experimental conditions… they fall short of establishing that this is a normal route of transmission in the natural environment.” Furthermore, because human Ebola outbreaks have historically been locally contained, it is unlikely that Ebola can spread between humans via airborne transmission.

However, the study does raise the possibility that pigs are a host for Ebola. If this proves to be true in the wild, there are direct ramifications for prevention and control measures. It is still unclear what role pigs play in the chain of transmission. To continue work on answering this question, the team plans to take samples from pigs in areas known to have recently experienced Ebola outbreaks.

The Disease Daily has previously reported on Dr. Kobinger’s work on the Ebola vaccine.
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2014, 08:41:24 AM »
So what is it about ebola that scares so many people, considering that the annual flu kills far more people each year than ebola ever will?

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2014, 08:44:45 AM »
Ebola ' s death rate is much higher. The fear is that there is a recent mutation of the disease that is much more communicable, and that it will spread outside of Africa.

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2014, 04:05:39 PM »
Guess we'll know after the African Summit is over at the white house. Say........... never mind.

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Re: Ebola Outbreak
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Re: Ebola Outbreak
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 11:39:55 AM »
 :coffeeNews: Lets stay tuned to see...

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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2014, 05:26:37 PM »
U.S. government to buy 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits to prepare for full-blown global pandemic...

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(NaturalNews) The U.S. State Department has just put out a bid for 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits, announced a U.S. manufacturer called "Lakeland Industries." The company's press release, published at Yahoo Finance, reads:

"With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health."
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