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Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« on: November 19, 2011, 01:23:58 PM »
What the fuck?



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     About ten or so protesters are peacefully sitting on the ground, linking arms, refusing to stand.  So a cop walks up and hoses them down with pepper spray like he's watering his plants.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 03:10:30 PM »
if they were all "resisting arrest" i could see it as justified legally. rather then fight them all to unlink their arms it would be much easier to pepper spray them all and then cuff them one by one. im guessing the cops told them several times what would happen if they didnt comply. 2 sides to every story. but im not on either side here.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 03:27:48 PM »
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 04:09:02 PM »
HA! watching hippies get seasoned well always makes my day!


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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 04:09:44 PM »
here's what I can't get through my head. ok. I don't know where this video was shot, or what the circumstances are for the rest of these protests across the country. but here's my little hypothetical scenario.

IF it's a PUBLIC place (I.E. not Zucotti park where OWS started, that park is privately owned) and Americans are SUPPOSED to have the right to assemble. and assuming this little hypothetical group really is peaceful, no instigators. then why should they have to move just because some cop tells them to? I'm not talking about these goons that want to sit in the middle of the street. the cops are justified in forcing those people to GTFO of the street. but what about these protests that are going on in public parks? how is a cop justified in breaking up the assembly in the first place? and more importantly, how are they justified to use any physical force whatsoever on people who are literally just sitting on the ground in a public place? much less pepperspray the fuck out of them?

I don't sympathize with these people's message. most of them seem to be the epitome of ignorance and the product of leftist propaganda. but IMO they have just as much right to occupy a public space and spew their ignorance as anyone else has. show me where a law is written that justifies cops using physical force just because you don't hop-to and follow every order he barks at you. especially if you're not doing anything illegal in the first place.

some of you guys want to cheer on these cops? go ahead, but don't say I never told you so when it's YOUR ass catching rubber bullets and pepperspray for no fucking reason.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 04:24:01 PM »
100% agreed NOLA.  But the pigs cops will always be able to find some line of "corporate code" (which BTW, is what they are enforcing, not law) to justify their use of force in their little pig cop minds.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 07:47:47 PM »
1) No matter how thinly you slice the baloney there is always two sides- Case in point the video is
    only 48 seconds long.
2) The shoulder patches on the police look like CHP but I have never seen a shield on their chest
    that looks like what I see in the video. Maybe someone from CA. can identify the police.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 08:04:24 PM »
some of you guys want to cheer on these cops? go ahead, but don't say I never told you so when it's YOUR ass catching rubber bullets and pepperspray for no fucking reason.

Totally agree with you Nola, considering how things are getting fucked up all around the world is extremely plausible that the next guys protesting will be one of us, a government that do not allows manifestations is going in a very, very bad direction.

PS: I have no problem if the cops spray, gas or use as a snare guys causing riots, but people has the constitutional right to gather and manifest whatever the fuck they want, we are talking about constitutional rights being violated here, this is no joke.

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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 08:11:33 PM »
"The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees individuals the right of freedom of assembly. Under the Common Law and modern statutes, however, the meeting of three or more persons may constitute an unlawful assembly if the persons have an illegal purpose or if their meeting will breach the public peace of the community. If they actually execute their purpose, they have committed the criminal offense of riot."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Unlawful+assembly
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 09:32:33 PM »
Nola, buddy you'll never catch me out sitting indian style on a sidewalk protesting any thing. I protest with my vote, my money and other ways. Blocking up public walkways/streets does nothing but fuck with folks just trying to make a living and get home. This vid is in Berkley Ca. You'll not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 11:08:41 PM »
we only saw one thing happen no one knows anything other than cops sprayed ows protesters

therefore no one can logically have an opinion on the matter


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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 09:00:42 AM »
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2011, 09:49:12 AM »
we only saw one thing happen no one knows anything other than cops sprayed ows protesters

therefore no one can logically have an opinion on the matter




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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 11:54:47 AM »
"The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees individuals the right of freedom of assembly. Under the Common Law and modern statutes, however, the meeting of three or more persons may constitute an unlawful assembly if the persons have an illegal purpose or if their meeting will breach the public peace of the community. If they actually execute their purpose, they have committed the criminal offense of riot."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Unlawful+assembly


that, like most laws tend to be, is worded so vaguely that authorities can basically say almost any gathering is illegal if they want to. holding up a sign? breaching the public peace...

the way I interpret that quote from that legal-dictionary is "you have the freedom of assembly... except for the fact that you can be arrested for it"

just ask yourselves if this is the way the founders envisioned the 1st Amendment.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 08:03:54 PM »
 Not only do I disagree I think they should get the business end of a good old stick of hard wood...not by police but by citizens tired of their bitching little hissy fit.

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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2011, 08:28:11 PM »
I'd say about 1/3 of what they are protesting is at the root of the problem in this country.  They've got a right to speak their dumb ass minds about the other 2/3's too as long as they aren't infringing on any one else's rights. ( Which all too often they have been doing.) 

The protesters were probably ordered by the police to disband or be arrested.  The officer with the pepper spray was "way off base" in his application of the spray against people who obviously weren't violently/actively resisting arrest.

That's how I call it.  You all do your own reasoning.   



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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 08:53:27 PM »
i can't beleive were fighting over this,

THEY MADE THIS VIDEO TO ONLY SHOW THESE SECONDS TO PISS US OFF AND GET US TO FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES

quit falling in the trap they set when they post their propaganda and lets get back to prepping
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2011, 09:02:40 PM »
i can't beleive were fighting over this,

THEY MADE THIS VIDEO TO ONLY SHOW THESE SECONDS TO PISS US OFF AND GET US TO FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES

quit falling in the trap they set when they post their propaganda and lets get back to prepping


actually the full video is out there.

Cops Vs. UC Protesters/Protesters Get Pepper Sprayed Then Run Cops Away


the cops actually left the protesters alone shortly after that little snippet that was posted in the OP. interesting.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2011, 09:14:15 PM »
I just typed up a vicious rant, but decided against posting it at the last second (would probably lose my moderator status).  Needless to say, I'm very disappointed with those who think this kind of action by police is "ok." 

Anyone who wants to read it can PM me.
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2011, 09:44:03 PM »



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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2011, 09:53:59 PM »
Not only do I disagree I think they should get the business end of a good old stick of hard wood...not by police but by citizens tired of their bitching little hissy fit.

You say via PM " You know what I'm about "  with out giving me the dignity of a response.

Well, who's true colors show up now?
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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2011, 09:56:19 PM »
I just typed up a vicious rant, but decided against posting it at the last second (would probably lose my moderator status).  Needless to say, I'm very disappointed with those who think this kind of action by police is "ok." 

Anyone who wants to read it can PM me.

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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2011, 10:51:41 PM »
This topic has seemed to bring out some passions on both sides.  Seeing as there isn't a darn thing any of you can do to affect the situation one way or the other.  May I suggest you display the same sort of passions for beans and rice.

Now there's something to get excited about.  Especially with some good cornbread from an iron skillet!   :)



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Re: Cop overreacts with pepper spray
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2011, 12:02:35 AM »

  Especially with some good cornbread from an iron skillet!   :)

oh hell yea, just like my grandma makes it.  :D
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